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Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by imthedan, Apr 21, 2012. | Replies: 26 | Views: 5817

  1. imthedan

    imthedan IncGamers Member

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    Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    If I use a 2h will it make me spin slower (attack slower?)

    I was going to go DWMW and use weapon master to keep my fury regen, but I think I might be able to keep my fury up with a 2HMW as long as it doesn't slow my rotation down too much.

    Thanks for the help.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    1/aps, probably. Figure it out.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Its iffy depends on what they mean by per hit for Weapon master. A literal per hit, per attack move, per mob hit or a combination of these.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Yeah, this is why I made a huge post regarding the normalization of terms.

    Per hit would consider every unit hit. Hitting 3 units would be 1*3 for a total of 3.
    Per attack/cast/use would consider just that. Hitting 3 units would be 1*nothing because it's per attack, for a total of 1.

    You don't really need anything else to describe such effects. But hey, to Blizzard, I'm just a nobody, why even bother replying to my post to make a coherent game? :)


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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Yeah, it's funny how they want to keep the tooltips simple and easy to understand, yet everyone is confused and asks for more/clearer information.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Not everyone. Some casual players really only care about how cool the skill looks and feels, and couldn't care less about whether it deals a bit more or less damage with certain gear setups.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    One calculator says Whirlwind has 3 APS, if the speed is a constant then i hope increased attack speed translate into more damage, else everyone is going to use a Two-Handed weapon
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    My guess is that Whirlwind has a hidden APS multiplier. I doubt we'll something so broken as the D2 Classic Whirlwind. :)
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Since it only has a listed cost, I bet it'll work like most channeling skills, where both cost and damage are applied on a "per-tick" basis, and ticks tick faster with faster attack speed. The real question is, though, what determines when we start/stop whirlwinding, as I can think of more than 1 way in which it can work.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Like channeled skills, it will most likely end as soon as you release it's hotkey. Damage is always displayed in 0.5 second increments though, so the final damage may appear a fraction of a second after the skill finished.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    I've heard that you can only traverse with WW in a direct line and that you need to stop and cast it again to WW into a different direction?
    If that's true then that doesn't sound very dynamic. Sorry, bit OT
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    You could steer WW almost since it was announced back in 2008. IIRC it worked like it did in D2 at first, but not long after the announcement it was changed to a fully controllable channeled skill. You also won't have to aim behind enemies with it if you want to hit them, unlike in D2.

    As for its APS multiplier, maybe it doesn't have one anymore now that it does 110% weapon damage.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    So it's fully controllable now? As in, i can drag the WW to where ever i want to go? (aslong as my Fury lets me) That's awesome. So i don't have to Triforce again. I wonder how large the turning radius will be (i'm assuming there is one).
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Yes, it's fully controllable. I don't know about the minimum turning radius. Here's a video demonstration of Whirlwind and it's rune effects. It's taken from the emulator and an old version of the beta, so it may not reflect how things will look in the final game, but it's a good demonstration nonetheless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flmvf0UoUvs
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Sounds like something that isn't very fun to use on the right mouse button, even though that's where Blizzard placed it due to the role it fills (spam-able fury spender). In any case, I suppose we'll just be able to move at a % of normal move speed in a fully-controllable fashion... But we'll have to just wait and see.

    As for actual attack speed, 110% weapon damage at normal attack speed without a huge AOE and 16 fury cost seems quite weak, but again we'll have to see about that too.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    What's the problem with using it with the RMB?
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Because using both mouse buttons at the same time (left to move and hold right to attack) is a bit awkward and non-intuitive.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Oh, you misunderstand. You move by default when you use Whirlwind, in the direction of the cursor. It works just like the new Strafe does in this regard.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    Ah, then hold right click on destination and you move there? Sorry haven't seen how strafe actually works either.
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    Re: Will Whirlwind speed be affected by weapon choice?

    I'm wondering how effective the Blood Funnel rune is. 1% of max health, only on crits, doesn't seem that powerful compared to some of the other heals the Barbarian has. Perhaps the Whirlwind hits so fast it adds up to enough to make it good if you have a good crit rate. Whether or not weapon speed affects Whirlwind would also be a factor.

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