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Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

Discussion in 'Witch Doctor' started by tvndental, Apr 4, 2012. | Replies: 33 | Views: 8389

  1. tvndental

    tvndental IncGamers Member

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    Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    What do you guys think?

    I am guessing they can't.

    If they could then inferno wouldn't as hard as everyone says it is. Just have your pets tank and while the entire party just spam ranging attacks.

    Am I right?
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    I think it's quite safe to assume that they won't last very long in inferno. Currently they can't even handle Skeleton King in the beta.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Or maybe they can with the right setup, but the monsters will come straight for your character instead of minions.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    The WD's pets were always intended to be more transcient than the Necro's.

    That said, I *do* think that pet tanking will be viable in Inferno. You just need to get the idea out of your head that they'll survive each fight. Even if they tank for 20 seconds, that's a pretty good return for the 1-minute cooldown. Really, the Skeleton King is the only thing that owns them in the beta, so I don't think that's a good comparison at the moment.

    The Witch Doctor was designed to have the primary playstyle of "pets-distract-while-you-do-damage". If the WD's primary playstyle isn't Inferno-viable, I'd be quite surprised. And remember - Zombie Dogs are your mooks, the Gargantuan's going to be doing the heavy-duty tanking, I imagine.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    I think everything will be viable in inferno. Pets don't deal too much damage, so clearly, their use must be in taking some hits for you. Sure, they can't tank the skeleton king... but unlike trash, he has mechanics that can be avoided, so you don't need dedicated tanks to keep your *** alive.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Think u will need ur pets + a barb for tanking in inferno, then the 3 of u can do the imba ranged dps.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Game is soloable. Try again.


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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Performance of pets in beta atm is laughable, they are good versus normal monsters, any chempions/elites/bosses are destroying them on sight. I hope it will change later in the game because right now they are not buying enough time for WD in boss/elite/champion fights.

    But let us not jump into conclusions based on beta since its very small piece of the game.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    With the certain passives and/or with the Templar's Loyalty aura, I'm sure that ZDs will be good for Inferno tanking as well. They may not last 60 seconds, but they won't be one-shotted either.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Jungle Fort + Bad Medicine = 36% damage reduction. Use it, love it
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Also, Zombie Handler for 20% more HP and 33% more dogs. :)
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    I'm not sure how the pets scale and if they get stats from the player like hp regen but the Loyalty aura description says :
    Regenerate X life per second for you and the Templar.
    Maybe it's just a mistake but if it worked for pets it would be in the description as an usual aura for allies and all. Anatomy from the scoundrel and Focused Mind from the enchantress specifically talk about allies.


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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    In the beta, the dogs die in one hit from the skeleton king. At least at the level.
    That's all I have to add to the thread. :p
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    If everything is viable, it would be called normal.

    The fact that inferno is harder means that what works for an easier difficulty may no longer be sufficient.

    Otherwise inferno would be just doing the exact same things you did in all other difficulties and dying more.


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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    This doesn't add up, you are completely discounting equipment. Equipment is what will carry a build in Inferno. As long as your equipment complements your build, it won't matter what build you have.

    Here's a challenge - make me a build that you think will be completely useless in Inferno, and I'll tell you how it can be fixed with equipment. You are going to find that it becomes difficult to make a build that is truly gimped.


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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Yes it will be quite possible that there is equipment which lets the pets become tougher. There are several class specific items, amoung them legendarily ones. But some of them will be quite rare and expensive. (Hopefully we don't get a situation where *everybody* zaps around with enigma)

    However I don't get the impression that the WDs pets are as important or will be as good a tank as the Necros. He has pretty strong direct offensive skills, partly rivaling those of the Wizard. So it seems only fair that they are somewhat more like a temporary distraction instead of a indestructible meat shield.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    The leeching beasts rune combined with Jungle fortitude and fierce loyalty should help lots for Zombie Dog resilience.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Go on youtube. Type Blizzcon inferno revealed in the search box. Watch all 50 minutes. Jay goes over this forever.

    Yes, but the skeleton king has a gimmick. If you respect the gimmick, you'll take less damage against him than you would against a regular skeletal archer getting an arrow off from the edge of the screen. You don't need dogs. The way the game's headed, you probably won't need to "tank" bosses with your own face, and even if gimmicks do one shot your dogs, it won't matter to you. Will randomly generated masters kill them quickly? Doubtful, unless they have gimmicks themselves.


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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    Ideally each of them will last long enough to soak a few hits for the WD every fight, and you'd be forced to invest into keeping them up so they can mitigate some of the damage.
    But it's more likely that they'll either be immortal or die very quickly.
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    Re: Will WD's pets be able to tank inferno?

    In Inferno you'll probably be more worried about infinite piercing arrows and giant magic aoes that cover half the screen.

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