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Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

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  1. Tamer

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    Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon


    Whats the best runeword for a 2 handed wielding WW barb?
    BOTD
    Death has some nice mods
    Last Wish looks very nice mods
    Some other RW that I missed perhaps?

    Also is dual wield axes just superior to using a 2 handed axe?
    Plan on making a Titan 2 handed Axe Barb....
    Please advise
    Tamer
  2. dontdisagree

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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Last Wish and Death are slow for WW
    BotD can reach it on a weapon with [0] base weapon speed
    ethereal, p.nova, dual leech, pvh, 30 stats
    it's all great mods .. w/o even counting the dmg/ar mods
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    I agree, eBotd is probably the best choice:thumbup:. You could use a pair of Griefs too, which would yield higher average damage. However, you would need to free up a piece of gear to put some leech on, and you'd want to go Phase Blades for durability imo (but loose in the range department).


    Right, however, p.nova is useless, even if it did fire with ww, which it doesn't.



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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    All of these 2-handers hit fastest whirlwind breakpoint (important). The ones with (?) I am not sure if they hit last ww speed bp 2 handed since arreat summit and calculator say yes but some forums say no. All damages are average damage for perfect stats.

    - ebotd great poleaxe range 5, avg 669 dmg
    - ethy tombreaver zod ohm 40/15 ias range 4, avg 645 dmg
    - ebotd ghost spear range 5, avg 668 dmg
    - ebotd champion axe range 3, avg 591 dmg
    - ebotd colossus blade range 3, avg 668 dmg
    - Oath champion axe range 3, avg 522 dmg
    - Oath colossal sword, balrog blade, colossus blade (do these hit last breakpoint 2h???) range 3
    - Oath highland blade range 3
    - Oath champion sword range 3
    - Oath feral axe range 3, avg 505 dmg
    - Grief Zwiehander? range 3
    - Kingslayer sword? range 3
    - Hand of Justice sword?
    - Fury sword? range 3
    - Passion sword? range 3
    - Wind sword? range 3

    For comparison's sake, some popular 1h axes that hit last whirlwind breakpoint.

    - ebotdz range 3, avg 367 dmg (+ so many tasty mods)
    - Grief Berserker Axe range 3, avg 455 dmg (+ 20% ds will make even higher)
    - Doom z range 3, avg 230 dmg (+ds, ow, aura)
    - Beast z range 3, avg 178 dmg (+cb, ow, aura)
    - Ethy Deathcleaver range 3, avg 271 dmg (+DS, -defence)
    - Fury z range 3, avg 154 (+ many pvp mods)
    - Ethy Razor's Edge range 1, avg 222 dmg (+ds, ow, -defence)

    What is really stronger??? It depends on a lot of things like pvp or pvm, the rest of your gear/charms/auras, total amounts of open wounds, crushing blow, deadly/critical strike, and of course range, indestructibility, and raw damage.
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    ?!? to my knowledge nothing comes close to beast/grief dmg wise for ww'ers.



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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    True, grief/beast berserker axes (perfect average damage 455 and 183 +tasty mods of beast) is the quite useful versus a single enemy in many cases (very useful pvp). A range 5 (perfect ebotd gpa is 669 average +200% vs undead) can sometimes be more powerful overall, especially pvm. Also beast/grief has very low durability, and sometimes that matters (especially pvm). I actually like dual doomz's or ethy deathcleaver or fury as my overall preference when dual wield ww-pvp and dual ebotdz for ww-pvm. If I recall, the absolute most damage-per-frame whirlwind dual wield combo is still a pair of perfect griefs (455 average damage each), of course one would have to factor in many things such as strength, outside auras, and other gears, charms, total deadly/critical strike, crushing blow, open wounds, ect.

    However he is looking for 2 handed weapons with preference of axe, which leaves us these options for high powered runewords:

    - ebotd champion axe (perfect roll is 591 average damage)
    - oath champion axe (perfect roll is 522 average damage)
    - oath feral axe (perfect roll is 505 average damage)

    I am going to edit my 1st post above and put in all the perfect average damage stats, because it makes it much more interesting to look at and compare, and because I am bored.



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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Yep I saw that he asked for 2handed, but he also asked if dual wield is superior to 2handed and answer IMO is yes. Its ww mechanics that make dual wield barb deal more damage over time. At first 4th frame both weapons gets hit check (IIRC at 8th frame only one (main weap) gets hit check, Im not sure tho)
    so we have 2x griefs landing 2x 455 (910) at 4th frame.
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Actually it's frame 4 that gets a single hit, then both weapons hit at 8,12,16,20,24 etc. The aura bonus from beast still adds to grief at frame 4, which is awesomeness.
    (still I'd go botd pvm, whether 2handed or duel weilding)
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Go with BoTD in a colossus blade/sword, works the best. I my self are using a eBoTDz Berserker Axe that got really nice damage(in use on my wolf, 7,1k fury dmg :))
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    What about Obedience in a Cryptic axe? Is that a viable option?
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    ^ Quite some nice mods on 'Obediance', but it's quite slow. :[
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Freaking awesome for berserking, but sucks for whirlwind.



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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Define sucks =)

    Im gonna play my first ever WWbarb soon, Im a total noob. How important is weaponspeed? Is the lack of it in Obedience CA that makes it bad?
    I didn't plan to invest multiple HRs in this barb, will it do for a budgetbarb, and how does it affect rest of the gear?
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    IAS is important for ww because it allows you alot more hits on your target(s). You could have a great High damage weapon, but returns diminish when you don't hit as much.
    Also the IAS has to be on the weapon, so IAS from any other items will not effect your WW speed at all.
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Okey thanks for clearing that up!
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    If you take ww out of the picture (we hates whirl-hurl yes we do!), I'm going to have to put Death as the primo 2h wep. About the same ed% as botd with 50% cb and 40% ish deadly strike at high level. The avg on this is primo and easily able to have 100cb/ds. on every hit. This will put a botd to shame :D

    Ive both a botd gpa and a 395% ed death sword. The death "pwns" the botd. It is a little slower, but not horrible. (highlords, nos, loh's and ias arreats of gface and your swinging fast)

    Bezerk ftw!!
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Death is such a crazy weapon damage wise. Seems like off hand frenzy would be the most appropriate for it.
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    oh death is very good for an offhand frenzy weapon (especially ettin axes).

    But it truely shines for a 2 handed weapon for berserking.

    Yum Yum decapitators and colossal swords!!!!!!!!!

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