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Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

Discussion in 'Diablo 3 General Discussion' started by z00t, Apr 15, 2012. | Replies: 26 | Views: 3015

  1. z00t

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    Videos: Champion and Elite Waller differences

    After many 'runs' into the Den of the Fallen, I've finally come across a pack of Plague Bat Wallers in Patch 16!

    It was always my intention to capture footage of these fascinating creatures at length in order to better understand how the affix works (other videos online have been disappointingly short :p).

    Below are two videos - one demonstrating how a Champion Waller pack works and the other shows how Elite Wallers are different.

    Champion Waller Behaviour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-59Qczm1hQ

    Elite Wallers Behaviour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6yLHU7LirE


    The screenshot below shows how it looks with a greater number of Elite Wallers.


    EDIT: Would appreciate a mod rename the thread to: "Videos: Champion and Elite Waller differences" ^^
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    I didn't even know this affix existed.

    Really could get yourself in a nasty situation there, like the wall could close off a path which you need to escape from a horde of monsters, and when combined with other affixes like nightmarish and molten will be a disaster.

    Definitely not playing this game in hardcore, I think one would need plenty of strategy and experience to breeze through the later difficulties.

    This game is totally in a different league from D2, and people are still constantly whining about how "easy" the game will be.
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    Oh man! Imagine if there was a Necromancer in this game and you could bone wall...!!!!
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    Eww.

    We have something better, it's called wall of zombies.


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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    Whoops, I just noticed that this was a pack with a Champion monster and minions, instead of an Elite pack, so it's very possible that the Elites still behave the way they did before.

    In that case, just take this as a video which showcases the affix in action :D.
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    That is why each of the 5 classes got some sort of escape mechanism. babr's leap, demon hunter's invisibility, monk's serenity, witch doctor's invisibility, and sorc's teleport.

    Damn, just when i thought i cannot possibly love this game more, bang! You cannot simply build a 6 highest nuke character anymore. You will need defensive/escape mechanism as well :D


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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16


    Or you could say: "You monsters don't get it - I'm not trapped in here with you....you're trapped in here with ME!" and then blow them all up :p.


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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    Haha... that might happen, only with godly gear, after... 3-4 months of inferno grind... actually I think blizzard will make inferno so hard that even with godly end game gear you wont be able to simply right click monsters like you could in d2 with windforce. I think even with end game gear, we will still have to rely on our defensive skills. Seriously, i cannot imagine any skill replacing monk's serenity, or demon hunter's invisibilty skill.
    Srsly, how do you plan to survive wallers on inferno, the whole point of it will be to force us into using escape tactics at the proper time, as well as offensive ones when we get the chance.


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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    I think in NM/Hell/Inferno random unique monsters will have more than one affix, and I also doubt monster packs will be scattered and scarce like in the beta.

    DPS and AoE will still be really important because you need to kill everything ASAP, the main problem is the different combination of affixes that will make these monsters really deadly, and this is not even taking into account what the monsters could do.

    This reminds me of the undead stygian dolls in D2, you can't just blindly charge into these things, because it's suicide.


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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    Yeah I believe this as well - I just wanted to use a Watchmen quote :p.


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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    i am still confused by what all the different colored are called lol. i was going with champ, elite, unique....blue,yellow, purple. i needs to know the proper terminology for them
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    The proper terminology is loot pinatas.
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    I think there is no proper terminology yet :S.

    However, here's what I've been using:



    Uniques (a lone monster with no minions)
    Champion (a special monster accompanied by regular or slightly-enchanced minions, possibly some with its affix/es)
    Elites (A pack where all the monsters are extra-strong and share the same affix/es).


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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    ok so we agree on unique (i think) and have the other 2 reversed. in d2 i thought the blue packs were called champions? am i wrong?


    and i think konfeta nailed it
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    I like the terminology I use because it makes sense in my head :p.

    Champion packs are called Champion packs because they are a pack of monsters led by a champion (who is more powerful than everyone else in the group).

    Elites are called Elites because they are a pack of equally-strong monsters (like a demon SWAT team :p)
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    OMG that's terrifying! I love it!!
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    Nice video. I have yet to run into a waller type of monster, and I've been grinding the den pretty regularly.
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    nice vid thanks!
    that diamond armor looks cool too!
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    Re: Video: New Waller behaviour in Patch 16

    Out of like 7 dens of the fallen, I have yet to see these :D

    Nice find.

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