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Use it so sell it ?

Discussion in 'Diablo 3 Market & Economy Discussion Forum' started by Enlil, Apr 3, 2012. | Replies: 50 | Views: 3448

  1. Enlil

    Enlil IncGamers Member

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    Use it so sell it ?

    Hey people

    When you loot a epic item that is worth for example £100, what would you do with it.
    Sure you'll be able to farm and kill faster with your new epic weapon but will the temptation to sell it be to much.

    What would you do ? :scratchchin:
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    Imo if something is worth that much id keep it. It means its strong as hell (lol pun) and diablo is all about the loot.
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    But as an Economy person like yourself should know, diablo is about the loot but now we have the rmah its also about money.
    I think I wouldn't be able to stop myself from selling it, those of us in it from the money have to sell or your just farming for a bunch of pixels.

    It will be a great buzz the first few times you sell something for a decent amount.

    If you keep something you'll always be thinking about the value of that item and keep checking whats its selling for.

    I'll keep one good weapon but I'll market the rest of my warez. :yes:
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    People tend to give ridiculous value to perfectly rolled items, even though a "close enough" item for all intents and purposes will be just as effective. So if I were playing in softcore, and found some item that was worth a ridiculous amount of money, I would sell it, then buy an item that is 99% as good for a small fraction of what I earned.
     
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    I'd keep it. I guess I say that now but I just can't see myself selling items in game for real money. I guess if I got to a point where I really needed money I would look into it but I don't think I'd sell it even if I could sell it for $100+.
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    This is true, I have sold perfect rolls in beta for 80,000 gold but the same sword with 1 dps difference is worth about 10,000 if you can even sell it. It's all about prestige with people having perfect items when an almost perfect roll with do the same amount of killing.

    So your idea for making making is a good one, sell the item then buy a 2 dps less version for a fraction of your profits. Killing power + money in the bank :yes:


     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    I am old fasioned and think it is rediculous to spend money on game items. I also think it is rediculous to sell items for money unless you are in a third world country and it matters a lot for you and could even be a nice self employed job opportunity. For the rest of us, gaming should imo be about having fun, not spending or making money.

    I must admit that i might make an exception if i´d find some perfect rolled item and could sell it for 3000$, to buy back a non perfect rolled one for less than a tenth of it. Espescially when the game is really new, items are really rare and idiots are gonna be paying insane amounts for them. But i didnt play the beta, dont understand the thing with the rmah balance limit, so i don´t even know if it is at all possible to get more than 250$ and cash it out.

    I do understand that everyone has its own value of money and price to let go of principles. I stated 3000$ as an example, maybe for some of you young guys who still rely on the money they are given by their parents or get to work at a lousy side job for 3$ an hour it is different and 100 or 200$ might be important enough to go for it. For those however, i would say go and explore other ways of making money online, there is easy and certain money to be made in casino bonusses and almost everyone can learn to make 5$ - 10$ an hour on micro stakes poker if you really want to. (just realise you really have to learn it, before venturing into this, ask experienced, consistently winning players about this, or be aware that it takes significant research on your own if you do not want to be throwing away your money)
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    why only softcore ? whats different about RMAH in hardcore ? arent hardcore values gonna be even higher since the items keep dissapearing ? (and i dont think the third world kids and certainly not their employers who are gonna be organising their efforts are gonna take the risk of having them play hardcore)



     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    Well the simplest difference is, in hardcore, it doesn't exist.


     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    if something is worth that much, sell it, obviously

    from that point on you're basically playing for free; better than that, you've been paid more than it cost you to play the game

    the only reason to keep it is if you think its going to go up in value


     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    i really do not think items will sell for that much. I guess 10 Dollar for an item would be the highest price. I cannot imagine someone would pay much more.

    I have not bought any items in d2, but i have seen some advertising from the shops and if i remember it correct the highest selling items was around 15 bucks or so...
     
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    £100? $3000? Wuuttt?

    I think people are expecting the RMAH to be pouring money. I'd be surprised if anything broke the $100 before end game. Look at the cost of d2 items. Only some of the absolutely perfect, end game items get into the hundreds of dollars range.
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    and maybe can i remind you to read the actual article you referring to?

     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    I'd agree people aren't likely to spend $100 for anything that isn't pretty exceptional for a max level character. I'd say that absolutely perfect items are likely to be getting closer to $1000 though. Although that's based on guessing that maybe one or two of those get created per month on the entire of B.net.

    Wild speculation is fun isn't it? :crazyeyes:


     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    Well, let me see..

    Most wise choice here is sell instantly, without even thinking on it.

    2 reasons.

    1. Stats of loot can be nerfted, with good chance to become crap= huge price changes (in negative)
    2: Loot's price WILL decrease over time, whatever loot it'll be. Deal with it.
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    i doubt the price for any item will ever grow to that magnitude ; first of all the market is open for everyone , second i simply dont believe that there will be an item that rare and powerful that it elevates higher than 20 bucks ( which is still ****ing insane for a virtual good rolled in a game )

    as i said the market is big ; Items that are valueable on the rmah market will be widely available, and i think blizzard's income will largely consist of the flat fee.

    + I simply refuse to believe that people are THAT dumb , to pay up to 100 bucks for an item when the market is only 2-3 months in progress even really dumb people understand that the market is in an ongoing progress of inflation. these are no baseball-cards or rarities ; they will never be worth as much as at the time you bought them ( on a large scale that is ; not on single cases in which a seller vastly underestimated the value of his goods )


    that being said Blizzard would do well to create a system which encourages many trades instead of big trades.

    on the other hand ; people might be really that dumb, in my circle of friends i wouldn't find anyone.
    but hey ; we already had a tulip-mania ; so why no Diablo-mania ?
    I already see it before me how people complain that they bought a X for 100 dollar at month 2 and at month 3-4 that item is suddenly not even worth the flat fee and will instead be sold in the gold ah for some k gold.

    as an outside observer this is pretty interesting ; and i would'nt be suprised if blizzard made negative publicity because of that.
     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    You must of never played D2 my friend, people spent hundreads of dollars on items from ebay and d2jsp.com
    I should know, I made a few thousand myself from ebay sales:smug:

    This is the world of diablo, its all about the loot and if people can't find gear they want/need, they will buy just like in D2, people go crazy for diablo.
    The top items will have a sale value of hundreads dare I say maybe thousands of dollars, you will not see many "best sword" with a perfect roll on the RMAH with such small drop chance so they will hold there value.

    Thats the amazing thing about diablo someone can play for 5 mins and get the best axe in the game, another player can farm for 16hrs with little to show for it on a bad luck day.


     
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    Re: Use it so sell it ?

    At a guess the most regular transactions will be in the $5-$20 range (I also think the bulk of these will be for gold). But I certainly expect a few exceptional items to get up to 4 digits. The rarity of a prefectly rolled item is going to be pretty damn crazy. 4 random attributes on the high end crafts with the massive pool of possible attributes + the range on attribute values is going to make for way less perfect (Where I am defining perfect as the best combination of stats for a character with all values at the top of their range) items than people might think.

    Is there a complete list of random properties somewhere and the ranges yet? Probably not, I'm guessing that won't be known till retail.
     

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