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The skills are just plain fun!

Discussion in 'Diablo 3 General Discussion' started by CrazyChihuahua, Apr 27, 2012. | Replies: 19 | Views: 1278

  1. CrazyChihuahua

    CrazyChihuahua IncGamers Member

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    The skills are just plain fun!

    Mandatory "I was a hardcore D2 player and still play occasionally and love it and I played in the open beta weekend and here's my opinion guys listen k" intro.

    To me, the most enjoyable skills in D2 were the novelty ones. Unfortunately, they usually weren't strong enough to be viable beyond Nightmare (if you were lucky). The assassins traps are good examples. A blade sentinel the spins back and forth chopping everything it touches? Sweet. Firebombs? Great. Charged bolt traps? Loved it. However only a few of those worked well and only with syngeries. Most people just invested in them to get to Death Sentry. You COULD make it through the game with most, but it was a real struggle, made fun by the novelty of the skills (I found, anyhow).

    That being said, some of the stuff available even in just the first 13 levels of these D3 classes is fantastic. The demon hunter's chakrum (or whatever) is a blast to use. The monks first few melee skills already top anything the assassin had in terms of her kicks and punches. The wizards frost beam is much more enjoyable in use than D2's ICE BOLT ICE BOLT ICE BOLT ICE BOLT. Hell, they even managed to make the barbarian fun.

    We can go on forever before release (and probably after) about how one game's system is better than the other. You can never satisfy everyone. However, the fact that I'll be able to go from level 3 (4?) to 60 on a witch doctor and throw jars of spiders (!!) the entire time, AND have it be viable throughout tells me that for me, Blizzard has succeeded in making something that, comparisons aside, is just plain FUN.

    Seriously, jars of spiders. :jig:
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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    I like most of the skills. I find them pretty creative and fun. A few of them are unintentionally(or not) comical, like the giant frog. And a part of me misses things like a simple bash with a weapon, everything is so flashy and big in D3, but I can roll with that.
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    Yeah I agree :p The skills in this game are so awesome that I can't even wrap my head around it.
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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    This remains my main argument against opinions like "The game has completely dumbed down when you can train every skill". Every skill is indeed viable through Inferno if you want it to be, that means a far wider range of possible skills to use end-game. While it was fun to come up with innovative builds in D2, the fact that each character only had a few paths to take if they wanted to succeed through Hell really bugged me.
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    Classic. I laughed hard when I saw this.

    My open beta experience was similar. Suddenly Diablo was fun again, and the future was so bright I had to wear shades.

    Amen to that :thumbup:


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    This is also why I believe that cookie-cutter builds will not be that prominent. Sure, there will be cookie-cutter builds (the min-maxers will always want to find the "best" build) and it will be easy for other people to copy these. But, I don't think most want to make cookie-cutter builds, they just do so is because they feel gimped otherwise. There will be so many skills in D3 that people will be able to discover effective and fun builds on their own. I kind of feel sorry for the people who will google "best D3 build"; they are only ruining the fun of discovery for themselves.


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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    Well, a few of the skills are "eh" to me, but overall yea, most of them are quite good and very fun to use. Corpse Spider is indeed a fun WD skill, especially with the Leaping rune attached. And Fire Bats was just sick, the dmg on it is quite high. The fact that all or almost all the skills will be viable in the endgame is perhaps the biggest improvement from the first two games.
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    I fully agree. The skills are really fun to use. I mean some skills are just whatever, like arcane orb. No matter how good they make it (I know it was nerfed) it will be a skill used on need and not fun. but then I look at corpse spiders (mentioned above) and that skill is fun as hell. I just run around throwing them things everywhere. My wife actually was getting mad at me cause where ever she walked I was throwing spiders at her feet. I could not stop laughing (not mature yet it seems) and the more upset she got the more I would laugh. I eventually stopped when she starting to beat me. let that me a lesson to you all, don’t throw spiders at your wifes feet unless you enjoy getting beat up
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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    The variety of skill options is amazing. I'm currently replaying some d2 to get my fix and ya there's only a few options/builds to go :/. Some skills are bland (poison frogs) until you unlock awesome glyph combos for them (rain of frogs).
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    So what happens if you glyph it with spider queen? "Honey it's not me the queen is making them."


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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    Are you postulating that all the d3 skills are evenly balanced? Before 75% of the game has been released?
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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    Some of the skills were so cool, I would just LMAO.
    I love the bat out of hell that's on fire!!
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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    No, just that most of the skills in beta alone are fun to use, regardless of number output or effect. The thought on skill viability throughout the game is just a matter of the damage system being what it is. End-game balance has yet to be seen.

    And yes, the bats are a nice unique touch to what could've been a standard fire-breathing skill.



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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    I also love the Giant Toad, I was really planning to start as a Wizard but the Witch Doctor was so much fun:)


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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    I've gotten to use all but about 8 of the skills in the beta and I've all of them (except two - Horrify & Energy Twister) fun and useful which is a damn amazing feat IMO. The promise in this early glimpse is very exciting! :D

    We can't know that yet, obviously, but even a cursory view shows that there will be vastly more truly viable skills in D3 than in D2 which is ultimately what truly matters.


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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    Are you saying they won't be? Might as well share if there's something only you know and we don't.


    OT: Glad to hear I'm not the only one who couldn't stop laughing at the spiders. I was never a fan of barbs in D2 because they felt bland. (swing with a red blob, swing with circling stars, swing with a shield, swing without...) In D3 I really enjoyed the "big, powerful 2-hander" feel of it, with cleave and hammer and the spear. Much more engaging, and when I looted a Rare +holy damage weapon, watching the enemy chunks fly out and vaporize was awesome, too.


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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    I would say yes, to a degree. All of the skills scale on weapon damage, unlike Diablo 2. Now obviously things like zombie tower doing 90000000000000000% weapon damage is different, but most skills do 100-200% weapon damage and that's relatively close.


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    seeing as skills use weapon damage now i think its actually much easier to balance them
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    Re: The skills are just plain fun!

    I also really loved the skills in this game, especially using Explosive Bolts on large groups of enemies. I also loved the implementation of corpse spinders, having a spider throwing regular attack just rocks. I can't wait to try out the corpse spider runes. The runes seems me the best improvement in diablo 3, while I for example hate inferno like skills(like firebats) do I love dire bats, runes allow so many cool new options.
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    Balanced? we don't know...Viable? Most probable.


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