so called d2 pvp skill ok my other thread was closed, i wasn't trying to troll, i apologize if you think i am. to quote sassa the fact is that i do, d2 pvp comes to these facts knowledge of the game, gear, and eye hand coordination, which pretty much exist in all humans its naturally inherited i wouldn't call that a skill. i do agree and accept people that they pvp for fun, but saying its skill requisite is just silly. i have made a very good analogy in the old thread, if you still think skill>gear try a very poor bvb no charms just items against a deck out best possible gear pvp both players have the same knowledge of the game, it is indisputable that the second one will always win 100% of the time. this goes for all builds in general, also someone said trading hits is inevitable i agree with this since its true when it comes to trading hits its, its all the gear and luck talking i don't see where it is skill based. while claims like tal sorc,griswold paladin,ik maul can kill people in public games is just not silly but also you forgot the public population of bnet is mostly stupid, so killing stupid people can't quite considered skillful if i dare say. you can have all the knowledge of a typical fighting game but when it comes to the actual fight, this is where you put your skills to test, since alot of factors comes in to play, zoning,baiting,patience,outsmarting,being able to execute,keep calm,figuring the opponents style, knowing each character matchups etc. there is no where to run, there is no crutches to help you only skilled will saved you in a well balanced game.