Rules, BUMPING rules, DNT List, and General Info: Don't get banned by being ignorant These are the new trading rules, made by all trading mods together. Please read all of them again, even if you believe to be familiar with them ! Please have a particularly close look on the bumping rules and about what happens if you offer or ask for an item from the DNT list. Even though these rules are already in effect, we will give you a probation period of one week (until May 6th 2008) during which we will apply the old rules or the new ones, depending on the case. However, the rules have become less severe for us Europeans, so I don't expect any problems, except for perhaps a few reports which will lead to no consequences. __________________________________________ TRADING RULES (April 29th 2008) Not having read these rules is no excuse if you happen to break them, and may get you banned, so make sure to read them in advance of posting. DiabloII.Net forum rules – You’ll want to read this first (of course you already read it when you made your account right?) General rules: Do not Flame. We want this forum to be as friendly as possible. Do not post OT. This is a trading forum, the OT thread is stickied at the top. Do not post price checks. There's a forum just for that here, the Trade Values Forum. Do not hijack others threads for your own needs and requirements Do not trade for friends. You may trade only items that are in your possession and for which you make the decisions. If your friends want to trade here they need to create an account for themselves. Do not bump any post. (for clarity, that means back to back posts by the threads creator) unless it meets one of the exceptions listed below in the bumping section Use the “Report this post to a moderator” link at the top right of the post to report any posts that violate the rules (don’t use someone else’s rule violation to violate the anti-flaming rule) Eth armours socketed using the cube recipe may be traded here. Tell the exact stats of the items you're selling. Selling an ed/ias(or max) armor on non-ladder without stats automatically makes us take it as 4x40/15s and that will have consequences. Do not offer items elsewhere at the same time as you're offering them here and/or Marketplace. That also means you don't bring offers from other places here. If you offer items elsewhere at the same time and you have got offers at the time it's discovered, you will be banned for 3 days. If there haven't been offers so far, your thread just gets closed. Please give your items a fair chance to be traded. If you are starting a thread, you have to wait for at least 12 hours before retracting an item from your list. Of course, you can decline any offer during these 12 hours, but your items are considered as still being offered, so you cannot offer them elsewhere during that time. Tell where your items are from. People are going to ask this anyway. When posting a trade, tell what you're looking for. "make offers" is not helping. Do us a favour and say what you need. Same goes when you're looking for items, state what you can offer. All trades must be arranged inside threads (no where else), before the deal occurs. The same person posting threads successively (even with different items on them) is also considered bumping. Do not start more than 2 threads within 24 hours, that's considered as spamming. Do not, by ANY means, reopen a trade when you’ve made a deal. Sellers have all the power in the trade, they can accept or reject offers, not trade at all, repost items later, do whatever they please. So when you close a trade, stick to it. If you fast closed an item and then someone else offers more, it was the seller’s fault not to wait enough time, not the buyer’s fault. This includes your "By It Now" (BINs) and prices. If you price something stick by it, if you make a offer or counter offer stick by it. Buyers, after the deal is closed, must pay what was agreed too. You can ask the trade partner to allow a retraction (and perhaps offer a compensation), but if he insists on trading and you still refuse, it will lead to a permanent ban, even for trades of a low value. If you have been welched on please pm a mod to resolve it. No flaming All trades shall be done inside threads. Reasons: we mods can’t control or see the fairness on trades done by other means, be them PMs* sent between members, forum trades where the starting point was a thread here, or any other means. To make it easy on traders, I’d suggest that IF someone is contacted via PM or via bnet* about any trade, you can even agree on it but use the threads to consolidate it before the trade is carried out. This keeps non-forum scammers out, makes all the trades much more understandable and cleaner. Do not ask for free items. You can offer items for free, however, but please don't offend people who already offered an item for a price because they are not as wealthy as you to be able to offer it for free. Do not post the same item twice FT / ISO (includes services) twice in 2 days. This is considered Spam Just in case you missed it here - DiabloII.Net forum rules - do not spam. Bumping As stated in the rules, bumping is not allowed. Bumping is posting for the purpose of bringing the thread to the top. This is often (but not always) done by making another posting right after one of yourself (posting back to back). Reposting a thread is also a kind of bumping, but in a broader sense. You have the ability to edit threads after you posted them, so if your posting is the last one in the thread, any updates to your thread can be done by editing the existing post. If you need to do updates to your thread right after a posting of your own use the edit function, unless it meets the following conditions (exceptions to the rule): Useful information is added after 6 hours have passed. (see below for useful information) 24 hours have passed. Bumping of anykind is allowed after 24 hours. (This is advantagous to reposting) Reposting a thread, partly or completely after 48 hours have passed. The old one and all of the offers in it are cancelled (deals have to be fulfilled, of course) Useful information shall be defined as: Adding a minimium of three items of substance. Examples of not substance: Tir Rune, Amn Rune, 2os Cryptic Axe. Examples of substance: Tyrael's Might, Skullders, HR. Use your best judgement, if in doubt, PM a mod before you update. This includes both the FT and ISO. Any improperly bumped thread will be locked, and 2 locked threads within 30 days for rules violations will get you a 3 day temp ban. Any locked post may not be reposted for at least 24 hours AFTER it is locked. Regarding Auctions: it is nearly impossible to add useful info as "useful info = adding 3 items". with auctions, u must therefore wait for the 24 hour rule. otherwise they'd be bumped too often. Even posts such as "last call for bids or this will end at some time", must be under the 24 hour rule regulation. Giveaways Are not trades and cannot be posted. The excepetion to this is PMing a mod and requesting to post one. If your request is granted, you must state in the thread the mod who gave you permission. One post per person in these threads are they get closed and deleted. (I finally added this here, it has always been like this jsut never written in here. Giveaways commonly grow to 20+ pages and even after being closed, more threads pop up with people asking for their items.) Ladder and non-ladder Put “[L]” as the first part of your thread title for Ladder trades and “[NL]” for non ladder trades Do Not Trade (DNT) List Any hacked item, any duped item, any bugged item (including Zod bugged items), any item bought for real world money. Battlenet accounts Any pre v 1.09 items All non Diablo2 virtual items. You may not sell your items for real world money. No cd keys. No items from other games. Diablo-like services of any kind. Including, but not restricted to: hellforge quests, account trades, character names and other services not specifically mentioned. The ONLY exception to this are rushes, leveling and perming services, which are allowed. It is only allowed to rush/level/perm characters on accounts made by the person who requests it, as selling self-made accounts might lead to scams involving password recovery. We are also now allow socket quests to be traded. These will be traded at your own risk. We feel this is a easy way to scam folks out of items so use caution. Diablo games, like those containing a Dclone spawn. Items Acquired through the use of a bot, hack or any dupe method. We can't force anybody not to use hacks, cheats or bots, but if you are using them, you are not welcome to trade in this forum, so stay out of here ! This includes the use of Maphack and variants, as well as d2loader, and if we find out you are trading items, have traded items or plan to trade trade items and you use hacks (3rd party programs) we will ban you permanently. Some items not allowed to be traded on NL - Please make sure to check the link above for a complete listing 1.08 Items Until further notice we will no longer allow ANY .08 Items. +1 Lightning Skill +39 life Grand Charm 383 Poison Damage Small Charm 3/20/20 Small Charms 290 Poison Damage Small Charm 40% Enhanced Damage/15 IAS Jewels 40% Enhanced Damage/15 Max Jewels Items socketed with any 40/15 jewels 15 max/ 15% IAS Jewels 15 All Resistances/ 15% IAS Jewels Offering or asking for items from the DNT list earns you a 3 day ban on the first offense and a permanent ban on the second ! Runes and SoJ are allowed to be traded, even though their origin is doubtful. See Post #3 below for Ladder Do Not Trade list See Post #4 below for complete Non Ladder Do Not Trade List. In some cases we close threads which contain items which are not on the list because we are of the opinion that the items are probably dupes, e.g. if somebody offers 10 Griefs in 15% BAs. We normally won't take further action other than closing the thread, but that depends on the circumstances. In case of doubts about offering or asking for particular items, ask us via PM. As always, if you get banned, even temporarily banned, and make a new account we will ban you again and also change the status of the temporarily banned account to permanently banned. Mule Trades: Info can be found "here" A Note on Mule Trading: Be careful in mule trading, even here. Word gets out that we trade that way and someone comes in and takes advantage of us. Personally I generally do not go first with someone who joined within the last 3-4 months or has a trade rating of less than 30-40. (this is a guideline for me, use your own judgement) If you are unsure, check out the trade ratings, that is why we have them. Check if that person is giving out trade ratings and using the system or only receiving them. Check if the ratings are from mules or in game trades. If/when you give ratings specify if it was a mule or in game and if in game did you drop items or use a trade window. If you have any bad feelings about trades, take screen shots of inventory, time stamps and converstions in game, also showing who enters and leaves game. A old but useful link to knowing the scams that have been and still are sometimes used. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388625 Regarding "perm'd" items: Take your dupes, and sell them to Charsi. Take your "might not be legit" items, and sell them to Charsi. Take your "I permed this myself" items, and sell them to Charsi. Then come back and post the gear you have left. If I see it "might be legit", "might not be legit", "permed", etc. You will be setting yourself up for a ban. Its bad enough that I have to sift through a half dozen threads of he said/she said crap where someone's items poofed. If you are asking for or offering "permed", you are asking for dupes. You will be banned. Either have the stones to say its duped and take the ban a mod will give you, or have the sense to keep it off the site. This should be clear to everyone. Edit to Add: You may all consider yourself warned. If your threads contain these problematic items, you may want to start thinking about your future posts.