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RIP Iron Lady

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by jmervyn, Apr 8, 2013. | Replies: 42 | Views: 1302

  1. jmervyn

    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    Yes, the great woman who was the last living partner in the triumph over the greatest evil of the 20th Century has passed (the other two generally recognized were Reagan and Pope John Paul).

    [​IMG]

    The end of an era, despite Loz and others extensively hating on her, not the least of which was the hatchet-job movie with Streep.

    I posted it earlier, but here's a great clip:

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    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    I am quite cut up about this, truly. I feel a great loss.

    I had my heart set on being the one to press a pillow over her face whilst she was still conscious but now that chance is gone forever.

    Far thee well, you ****ing hag. Please let there be an afterlife and - please, let it truly suck.
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    She was a damn good leader, and helped to turn Britian from a country in decline to one which is looking up.

    She certainly did not get everything right, and IMO she had clearly gone off the rails by the end of her prime minster-ship, but I think Britian would be a worse place now without her.

    RIP.
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    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    Gee, Loz, and here I imagined you weren't like all the others. I suppose you appreciate this then....

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    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    Yep saw that in another forum. To which I replied:

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    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    I once asked why you cherished such extreme hatred for her, and you never really gave an answer. I presumed it had largely to do with this:
    I have to admit, though, that seeing you far less hinged than I am normally accused of 'round these parts, with regard to someone so obviously <good> in both deed and legacy, is a significant disappointment. Makes you seem substantially worse than this lot.
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    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    The trollery is weak in this one.

    Reading someone's blinkered and most likely biased commentary (I haven't bothered to, btw) vs recalling my own personal experiences living under her "reign" ... hmm, I remain unimpressed. I actually felt supportive of her and her stated goals, initially ... I suppose your strongest critics include those who originally had faith in you. Damned betrayer, she was.

    I suspect I did describe some of my gripes with Thatch previously, back when we were waiting for her to die. I imagine your suggestion that I hadn't really answered you is a device to get me fired up over it all over again. Whereas, I have no further need to vent - the vile harridan being stone dead and all.
    I will leave with this thought. One thing I object to is someone pissing in my pocket and telling me its raining. Ponder that on the Tree of Woe, Merv.
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    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    You see trolls where none exist. That is the path to the dark side.
    Not at all - and given the amount of spleen you've vented on this thread (which would certainly have been ban-worthy for me on the GW OTF and was remarked upon when some here danced on the grave of Jerry Falwell) it's not like I needed "a device to get you fired up over it". You pretty much took your own nose-dive to the bottom with almost no assistance from yours truly.

    I mentioned you hated her, and you were off & running. I really have no clue as to why.
    Lost me, my dear. Am <I> the pocket pisser in question? I suspect not, but being angry about such things from gov't notables? Y'all dismiss my outrageous outrage yet certainly would seem to be far beyond my petty grumbles about overt betrayal of country.

    EDIT - P.S. - odd to see that Naz has a far higher opinion of her than you do, when I always get the impression he's substantially far to your left.

    EDIT2 - One significant moron out of so many: I'll tell you, you worthless socialist buffoon - - SHE HELPED INVENT SOFT SERVE ICE CREAM!
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    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    I said I see trollery. I concluded quite some time ago that you partake of the green-skin without being one yourself :yes:
    LOL. You've never seen my spleen. Nor will you ... I play nice here in DiabloLand :nod:

    Hmm ... Merv without a clue ... what could this mean?

    :yes: That happens when I forget to dumb-down.

    No, not you Merv. I've never seen you piss in a pocket, not here anyway. Splash it around in all directions, but never in a pocket.

    I doubt I could explain to you why the smugness and the sheer effrontery of the Thatch was a difference not in mere degree but in kind compared to other political figures. It was situational and affected me in real, quality-of-life ways at the time. I certainly have no wish to dredge up old stories ... I just want to rejoice.

    I was actually quite right-wing up until the early days of Thatcherism. She cured me of that, or so I thought at the time. Obviously now, after decades in which to ponder, I am less caught up in left- or right-wingedness issues. We don't seem to get much of either in the UK, merely a vague flailing of hands in one direction or the other. It's fine.

    Uh, I'll follow the links if I get time or accidentally click on them. :yes:
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    jmervyn IncGamers Member

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    Dancing on someone's grave isn't exactly 'playing nice'. Seeing how you're not aware of that.
    Speaking in vague references and hidden meanings, sneering at others when they fail to catch your quadruple-entendres... you're plagiarizing my old posts!
    Rejoicing over the woman's death because you didn't like her style? Really? I don't like Ricky Gervais, and despise Bill Maher, but it's not like I'd do happy dances for their demise.
    Meh, it's more about Donna Brazile, erstwhile head of the DNC being a douchey feminatzi. She's barely got two brain cells to rub together, and she asks what Thatcher ever did. Even for a dyed-in-the-wool Commie hack like Brazile, who would discount all the other issues, THATCHER HELPED INVENT SOFT SERVE ICE CREAM!
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    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    I would gladly have danced on her hospital bed but ... ah ... too late is too late.

    Plagiarising? Would that not imply that I was aware in some way of your old posts?

    Hmm, you're absolutely right. I can only take comfort in the fact that her "style" was the least of her transgressions and that my dancing arises from many different and deeply-felt wellsprings of feeling.

    Ah, I'm just joshing, it's wrong to joke about an old lady who has passed away. She was a human being, doing an incredibly difficult and stressful job on the national and world stages, in service of her country. Heh. No, but seriously, I am glad the vicious vile old hag is dead.
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    Hmm yes, this already took the expected course. Count me out on that.

    I'm not approving of a couple of things she did, but she certainly brought the UK back to a kind of strength which was good for the country. RIP.
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    Fulfilling a pre-forum crash promise... *dances*
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    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    Bob, with anyone else I would agree with you. G W Bush, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot ... if someone wants to be respectful after they died, the thread should be allowed to carry that tone.

    However, we are talking about Thatch. No rules, nothing off limits, just the way she lived.
    And I will be your slave bunny if you can prove that the OP of the thread was posting for any reaon other than the S&Gs plus the guaranteed responses that I personally obliged him with.

    *joins the dancing in Basingstoke*
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    I sense strong hypocrisy... so all the totalitarians of the Left should have some appropriate decorum observed in their demise, but the woman who made your life and career feckin' possible should be dug up when she's finally interred.
    You are so off base that you've gone into self-beclowning mode here. I genuinely LIKED the woman, as far as I can appreciate any politician; I named my dog after her. You haven't provided any legitimate grounds for the depths of your hate, so you sound kind of like the American Bush haters who scream about his being the worst President evah!

    You forget that one of my seminal experiences in the U.K. was the Falklands victory, which was far more clear-cut than many American victories have been. I'm kind of with Bob here (horror) - I hate many on the Left but have the decency and humanity not to rejoice in their death - I even was uncomfortable with the rejoicing over OBL's killing. Why have a street party when someone else stamps out a cockroach, even though the act prevents potential future harm? Vengeance and gloating over death are... small. Bad form.

    Long time since I've seen Suicidal Zebra around these parts; shame to see that he's on your 'side' here. From some n00z coverage, it seems like a lot of those who have benefited from Thatcher's legacy hate her with the vehemence you do.
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    LozHinge the Unhinged IncGamers Member

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    Ah, so you do recognise hyperbole when it tweeks your nose, Merv! :yes:

    Here, as you like them so very much, have a picture:

    View attachment 4271

    I won't be able to describe why I hold the kind of hate for Thatcher that no other politician or person has ever inspired in me. It is borne of experience - not dogma, not principle - the pure, unadulterated experience of living under her poisonous shadow.

    If I could cogently describe it to you, you would still fail to understand - you have no experiences of your own to compare it with. That's not a failure of yours, Merv, I don't expect you to know what I am talking about, nor do I wish to persuade you. I don't even need you to agree to differ. And no amount of "admirable quality" that I concede was in that viscious woman can cause the harm she did to evaporate or be forgiven. An evil-doer who also achieved some good is still an evil-doer.

    And yes, you posted for the S&Gs. To try to deny that is, frankly, beneath you. And laughable, let's not forget that. :nod:
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    Honestly, that's complete B.S. My Mom raised me with the same unthinking, unreasoned, uninformed hatred of Nixon - it was only after I had grown and started to understand the deeper political currents that I understood it and realized that it was not only wrong but farcical. If it was, say, someone who had actually stolen money from you through the abuse of their political position (ahem) then you could state so clearly.

    I suspect you can't bring it into words because there's really nothing rational behind it - she is your Goldstein.


    You're utterly wrong. I can't figure out if you're claiming this to forgive your own obnoxiousness or what. I didn't expect you to have anything pleasant to say, but I honestly didn't anticipate your vitriol; if I had posted it a bit later I would have included Annette Funicello. Do you want to take a piss on her corpse too?

    I was not an unabashed admirer of Baroness Thatcher, just as I was not an unabashed admirer of Reagan, but I agree with those who put her on the same level as Churchill (who had plenty of less-than-noble qualifications too). You, OTOH, are being as hateful as those rioting are, and given your unfortunate language, you're apparently no different from one of them.

    [​IMG]
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    Oh, I see, it's your Mom's fault I hate Thatcher? Thanks for clearing that up! :thumbup:


    I suspect it simply isn't worth my effort. The words will bounce of you as always happens when you are faced by ideas and experiences beyond your comprehension. You wouldn't get it and you wouldn't try, and you wouldn't admit to it if you did. How is this worth my while?

    Argh! Can't argue with the big, bold letters, can I? All is lost!

    We'll add this to the list of things you cannot figure.

    I know, I like to throw you the occasionally freebie for you to goof off on ...

    Who?
    /rhetorical

    Not feeling the need to. Why, do you recommend it?

    Yes, because Churchill's premiership was virtually identical to Thatch's. :rolleyes:
    Mind you ... they both prosecuted a war against their enemies (plus Thatch also had the Falklands, too, so that puts her one-up on Winston).

    Well, Jesus did teach us that the thought is the deed, so my hatred of Maggie is precisely the same as the destruction of property and public-order offences you allude to. There's no difference between setting fires and verbally expressing your opinions, after all.

    OMG! I'm a thought-criminal! Fetch me my glowing ball of care!
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    Pfft. You claimed I had no way of comprehending unreasoned hatred, and I countered with my obvious personal experience of precisely that.
    "It's a black thing; you wouldn't understand."? Poppycock. Not only am I not immune to legitimate claims, but I certainly don't assert a grasp of European domestic affairs. I believe my Goldstein accusation to be the most accurate.
    If you think this is goofery, you're quite a bit less perceptive than you believe yourself to be. I'm honestly shocked and somewhat disgusted, because I simply can't manage to sympathize with your emotions. I'm a violent sort of dude, as you and others have asserted, but I've never carried the sort of encumbrance you apparently do. I'd not act this way about Osama and didn't about Chavez; a sense of relief and hope was about all I had.
    No good leader makes everyone happy, because sacrifices have to be made - and those sacrificed often carry a grudge, simply because they lose the upper hand.

    The sort of vehemence you display is similar to that of the American Left when their teachers' unions lose their monopoly. I don't doubt that some of them will dance and rejoice like Palestinians on 9/11, but it's really about their losing the ability of fecking over their fellow citizens. Which is what I'm uncomfortably suspicious of regarding your glee.
    Well, you DID get my point. Your verbal violence is SPIRITUALLY no different, just as lust I feel for Halle Berry is SPIRITUALLY no different from my bending her over my desk and giving her a hard rogering. Neither is beneficial to a human spirit.

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