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Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by lietomyface, Jul 21, 2012. | Replies: 12 | Views: 7187

  1. lietomyface

    lietomyface IncGamers Member

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    I was looking up this PvP guide : http://diablo2.rpgstash.com/d2_pvp_guide/#whirlbarb

    and i don't really get his choice of Jewel ( Ruby Jewel of Avarice 40/9dex )

    Because i looked up was Avarice was about and it gives Gold% , wich pretty unuseful in pvp.. =/




    what kind of Jewel should i put in my Arreat and shield ??
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    ambid IncGamers Member

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    He must have just gotten the suffix name wrong, 40 ed/ 9 dex jewel would be ruby jewel of daring.

    How ever, I disagree with most of his item and skill choices, that build won't do it in serious pvp.

    Read this guide instead: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?608622-PvP-BvC-Guide

    Edit: To be honest, after a quick look, pretty much all of the guides on that site seem bad, I hope you didn't build any of your chars by them :D
  3. lietomyface

    lietomyface IncGamers Member

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    I didnt build my barb yet, he's only geared the same way the link i sent ( http://diablo2.rpgstash.com/d2_pvp_guide/#whirlbarb )
    Without the jewel and 3/20/20 sc's

    Then what build should i trust.. there isnt much recent guides these days =/


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    ambid IncGamers Member

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    The one I linked seemed to be up to date. It's also seriously thought out with lots of math to prove the item choices etc.
  5. lietomyface

    lietomyface IncGamers Member

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    i may trust the guide but it kinda annoys me that it's THAT different from what i was going to. What i'm wearing isnt bad but it's always in second choice in this guide opinion. The thing is that i can't try before i go for it xD

    Stats:
    Either base or enough Str and Dex for necessary gear switches such as fortitude, Widowmaker, Crown of Ages, etc. The rest goes into Vitality.

    Skills:
    Combat Skills Tree:
    Whirlwind: 20
    Leap (NOT Leap Attack): 14, 20 (Either or)
    Berserk: 1-3
    Concentrate: 1
    Stun: 1
    Leap Attack: 1
    Bash: 1

    Combat Masteries Tree:
    Weapon Mastery: 20
    Natural Resist: 1-6
    Increased Speed: 3-6
    Increased Stamina: 1
    Iron Skin: 1

    Warcries Tree:
    Battle Orders: 20
    Shout: Everything else.
    Battle Command: 1
    Howl: 1

    Gear:
    Most common public setup:
    Helm: BerBer CoA
    Armor: Enigma
    Belt: Arachnid’s
    Gloves: Trang’s
    Boots: Tri-Res Rares
    Rings: Dual Ravens
    Amulet: Highlord’s
    Weapons: Grief + Beast
    Switch: Most commonly Dual Doom.

    vs.


    Whirlwind Barbarian

    Energy: Nothing.
    Strength: To equip items only.
    Dexterity: For 75% Chance to Block
    Vitality All remaining points.

    Minimum Character Level: 77 (with all 12 bonus skill points)

    Combat Skills: Bash 1, Leap 1, Leap attack 1, Stun 1, Concentrate 1, Whirlwind 20
    Warcries: Howl 1, Shout 20, Battle Orders 20, Battle Command 1
    Combat Masteries: Axe Mastery 20, Increased Stamina 1, Increased Speed 1+, Iron Skin 1+, Natural Resistance 1+.
    Additional Skill Points: Iron Skin and Natural Resistance

    Helm: Arreat's Face socketed with Ruby Jewel of daring 40/9dex.
    Body Armor (1st choice): Enigma Archon Plate
    Body Armor (vs melee): Fortitude Archon Plate
    Weapon 1: Breath of the Dying ethereal Berserker Axe
    Weapon 2 (1st choice): Beast Berserker Axe
    Weapon 2 (vs Smiter and Amazon): Doom Berserker Axe
    Shield (vs melee): Stormshield with Ruby Jewel of daring 40/9dex magic jewel
    Swap: 2 x Heart of the Oak Flail
    Belt (1st choice): Siggard's Stealth 1.08 bugged
    Belt (2nd choice): Verdungo's Hearty Cord
    Gloves: Dracul's Grasp
    Boots Gore Rider
    Amulet: Angelic Wings
    Rings: Angelic Halo and Raven Frost 225+AR/20dex
    Charms: Annihilus, Hellfire Torch and 37 x Fine Small Charm of Vita 3/20/20.
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    ambid IncGamers Member

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    The first setup is way better.

    Problems with the second setup:

    1. Block is mainly used vs. bowas, not as a all around setup. You can get block setup for normal bvc too(making the baba bva btw.), you lose around ~600 hp if you do it.

    2. There's no fcr. You need 40 fcr to catch casters, you can sometimes use even 63 fcr.

    3. Botd is not the best main weapon, grief beats it damage wise.

    4. You should use highlords and dual ravens in your main setup, not angelics.

    5. Mixing up the inventory is a good idea, full 3/20/20 is melee duels thing. You want to have 75 res in duels, you also need 4x 5 fhr charms to hit 48 fhr.

    6. You want, at least 14 hard points in leap, i'd go for the 20.

    There's some points that I could quickly think of.
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    lietomyface IncGamers Member

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    -The fcr thing is a good point.

    So the second setup would be more against melee ? like bvb or bvsmiter ?

    -For the sc's is it good if i get like 5x res sc's, 4x fhr and the rest all 3/20/20 ?
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    Yeah, it's more like a bvb setup. I wouldn't use it againts smiters thought.

    I'd aim for 75 all res in main setup, how many you need is hard to say without knowing your exact gear etc. It's easy to check yourself thought. If you get the fhr scs with 5 all res as second mod, you probably won't need many res scs, around 5 is probably pretty close.

    I'd get two or three 20 life / 17 mana scs too. It's annoying to play a bvc if your mana is very low.
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    lietomyface IncGamers Member

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    ok ok, well i'll try this build make a review of it here when ill get all the items
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    ynotastonysh IncGamers Member

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    IMO. You should go with a BvB with BvC gear.So with leap as lvl 1 and max shout with the rest of your pts in iron skin. I never really found the need to leap in killing any other toons besides Paladins.
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    ambid IncGamers Member

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    I disagree, leap is on of your main stun skills and if you ever do team duels, it's an absolutely must to have. Paladins are probably the class it's the least useful againts.



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    ynotastonysh IncGamers Member

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    Oh yeah sorry I was only thinking of 1v1 duels. For team I can see the usefulness. I only leap against hammerdins and sometimes smiters. For other classes never found the need.
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    Leap also allows you to "stomp" on Necro Spirits, even in groups, causing you no damage.

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