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  1. Raft Boy

    Raft Boy IncGamers Member

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    NFL picks: week 17

    So we're finally down to the last week of the season, and there are still 3 spots left in the NFC to be decided (Pittsburgh still hasn't clinched officially, but they should be able to beat the Lions) thanks to the hot Redskins beating the Giants and the Panthers gagging away a game against the Cowboys (sorry gismo!). Meanwhile, the Seahawks clinched home-field in the NFC thanks to Alexander's 3 TDs against the Colts.

    In the last thread, EliManning brought up the Tomlinson vs. Alexander debate on being the first pick in fantasy drafts. I will admit that I was one of the ones who adamantly said Tomlinson should go before Alexander. Here were my two reasons: first, before this year, Alexander had a tendency to score in bunches and then disappear statwise for a few weeks. Tomlinson was consistant in his scoring in previous years. Second, Tomlinson is involved in the passing game more than Alexander is. Those two things put him over Alexander in my book. Funny thing is, in the non-OTF league I play, the guy with the first pick agonized over who to take, and took Alexander. He ended up winning the title. Course, he had Larry Johnson too, but he wouldn't have gotten to the title game without Alexander's numbers.

    Anyway, Nerf-Herder gets his first weekly crown with a 12-4 showing. Dutch, Lostprophet, and FreezerBurn shared second place. Overall, Xoranix leads BeefChunks by 6 games, so he should win that race. Xoranix also leads the percentage race, but Amra is 0.1% behind BeefChunks for second place. Senor Beezer took a hit in the standings thanks to last week and is now in 4th place.

    Last week's results:
    Code:
    		Week 16		Season		Percent
    Name		Right	Wrong	Right	Wrong	
    Rafty		8	8	158	82	65.8%
    axeil		8	8	144	81	64.0%
    PatMaGroin	9	7	143	82	63.6%
    Croup		9	7	150	76	66.4%
    SBR		10	6	149	91	62.1%
    Ash		8	8	132	81	62.0%
    skihard		8	8	136	102	57.1%
    Isolde		5	11	100	92	52.1%
    Gibbzilla	10	6	69	37	65.1%
    ogogo		9	7	148	91	61.9%
    Xoranix		8	8	167	73	69.6%
    Dutch		11	5	140	100	58.3%
    Cookies		10	6	140	85	62.2%
    Lostprophet	11	5	153	86	64.0%
    Amra		10	6	156	75	67.5%
    BeefChunks	9	7	161	77	67.6%
    FreezerBurn	11	5	137	87	61.2%
    Nerf-Herder	12	4	133	91	59.4%
    Senor Beezer	8	8	111	55	66.9%
    Death_Frog	10	6	63	33	65.6%
    Chirijiraden	9	7
    Week 17 picks:
    Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
    Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
    Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
    Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
    Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
    Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
    Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
    New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
    Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
    Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
    Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
    St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys

    I was kind of hoping that the Broncos/Chargers game would have more significance this week, but the Chargers shot themselves in the foot by losing too many close games. Really, the only game that looks to be fun to watch is the Dolphins/Pats game. Pats are fighting for the third seed, while the Dolphins are looking to finish the season over 0.500, which is not-too-shabby considering they have no QB down there. But I bet the game most people will be interested to watch is the Texans/49ers "duel of the century", if only because the loser gets the inside track to the number one pick next year. Part of me wonders if the schedule makers did that on purpose to spice up an otherwise horrible match-up.

    Good luck everyone!
  2. Gibbzilla

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    Week 17 picks:
    Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
    Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
    Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
    Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
    Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
    Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
    Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
    New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
    Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
    Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
    Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
    St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys

    I believe the MVP award should be given to Shaun Alexander this season, seeing as he may break the rushing touchdown record this week.

    Adrian.
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    Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
    Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
    Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
    Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
    Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
    Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
    Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
    New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
    Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
    Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
    Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
    St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys

    Boo yah. How bout dem Ravens?
  4. PatMaGroin

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    Denver Broncos
    N.Y. Giants
    Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens
    Buffalo Bills
    Carolina Panthers
    Cincinnati Bengals
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    New England Patriots
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Green Bay Packers
    Houston Texans
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears
    Washington Redskins
    Dallas Cowboys
  5. Sir EvilFreeSmeg

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    PIss on jake p;lumber, he was asnm arsehole in high school and he's a n arsenole still. NO local boy's goona pull the woool over my eysm, he's from Boise, I know how the punk is.
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    Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
    Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
    Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
    Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
    Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
    Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
    Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
    New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
    Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
    Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
    Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
    St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys
  7. EliManning

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    I went with Alexander, but Palmer made me think twice and I think he deserves a nod. Alexander could have put up lower numbers and the Seahawks would still be in the playoffs, whereas I think Palmer was the difference between this year's 11-4 and last year's Bengals get-together at Hooters to watch the playoffs on TV and have hot wings.
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    Palmer has been fantabulous and is the main reason the Bengals are where they are this year compared to last year.

    Alexander has been the best player, but it's not called the "Best Player Award" and he's been near this solid for seattle before. So they are learning to play around him.

    -D2netDad
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    It may not be called the "Best Player Award," but that's who it always goes to. Notice in the MLB it's also called the MVP, but a few years ago it went to the below .500 Rangers with A-Rod. Shaun Alexander should win it, end of story.

    Adrian.
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    Denver Broncos
    N.Y. Giants
    Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens
    Buffalo Bills
    Carolina Panthers
    Kansas City Chiefs
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    New England Patriots
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks
    San Francisco 49ers
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears
    Washington Redskins
    Dallas Cowboys

    I voted Carson Palmer. Who would be the Rookie of the Year this year?
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    Week 17 picks:
    San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants
    Indianapolis Colts
    Cleveland Browns
    Buffalo Bills
    Carolina Panthers
    Kansas City Chiefs
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    Miami Dolphins
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks
    Houston Texans
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    Minnesota Vikings
    Washington Redskins
    Dallas Cowboys
  12. Croup

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    I call bull****, at least on the "end of story" part. I refuse to hand out MVPs just because someone broke a record. The fact of the matter is, Carson Palmer is more valuable to the Bengals than Alexander is to the Seahawks. Without the specific skills of Palmer, that Bengal offense couldn't work the way it does. With a slightly lesser version of Alexander (say Corey Dillon if not injured, Willis McGhee or several other backs), the Seahawks would still be on top of the NFC, or at least at the number 2 seed. As Dad said, the Bengals wouldn't be in the playoffs without Palmer.

    By the way, try these stats out:

    Shaun Alexander

    Total Yards From Scrimmage: 1885
    Total Touchdowns: 27
    Average Yards Per Touch: 5.1
    Touches Per Game: 24.3

    Tiki Barber
    Total Yards From Scrimmage: 2127
    Total Touchdowns: 12
    Average Yards Per Touch: 5.6
    Touches Per Game: 25.1

    So Barber has a better average per touch, gained 300 more yards and touches the ball slightly more. He also plays on an offense with a SECOND YEAR QUARTERBACK with a 75.1 Quarterback Rating, a much more varied attack that Seattle's, and had 6 goalline touchdowns taken away from him by Brandon Jacobs (which is a questionable strategy that also cost the Giants touchdowns).

    I'll trade the 15 touchdowns (not from the whole offense, but from the specific player) for the rest of the stats, including the fact that Barber has won games singlehandedly for the Giants (see the Kansas City game) when the rest of the team was playing poorly, and is used to bail out Manning when he has bad games.

    I'd take Tiki Barber over Shaun Alexander for MVP.

    (Disclaimer: I'm a Giants fan, which I know you'll hold against me. But it's true.)

    Anyways, picks for the week:

    Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
    Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
    Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
    Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
    Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
    Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
    Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
    New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
    Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
    Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
    Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
    St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys

    Ahhh Week 17, bringing us the worst game of the year: Houston vs San Francisco. Ugh.

    Great playoff determining games here this week. Some real, REAL big ones. I love it.
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    Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
    Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
    Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
    Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
    Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
    Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
    Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
    New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
    Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
    Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
    Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
    St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys
  14. caddad

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    The question was: Who is your MVP for this season?

    My rookie of the year is without a doubt: Carnell Williams

    -D2netDad
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    This has been a fun year, hopefully I won't tank it this week.

    Chargers over Broncos
    Giants over Raiders
    Cards over Colts
    Ravens over Browns
    Bills over Jets
    Panthers over Falcons
    Bengals over Chiefs
    Steelers over Lions
    Patriots over Dolphins
    Bucs over Saints
    Seahawks over Packers
    49ers over Texans
    Jags over Titans
    Vikings over Bears
    Redskins over Eagles
    Cowboys over Rams
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    San Diego Chargers
    N.Y. Giants
    Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens
    Buffalo Bills
    Carolina Panthers
    Kansas City Chiefs
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    New England Patriots
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks
    San Francisco 49ers
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears
    Washington Redskins
    Dallas Cowboys
  17. Gibbzilla

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    I can see that someone here is rather biased towards their favorite team, considering that Shaun Alexander has 15 more touchdowns than Tiki Barber, and also has made his team better than Barber has made his team. Heck, Tiki isn't even the best player in his family.

    Adrian.
  18. Raft Boy

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    I was hoping that the poll would spark a good debate. Looks like there might be one.

    If you were to ask me, I would probably waver between Palmer, Brady, and Alexander. No way the Bengals are division champs without Palmer. Playoff contenders maybe, but that's doubtful given the other AFC teams out there. Brady carried the Pats while the defense and Dillon healed up. Same situation here as with Palmer, but to a lesser degree. Take out Brady, and they're average. But I think Brady takes a little bit of a hit since the Pats play in the weaker division versus the Bengals. Alexander's a whole other situation. If he was a "lesser" player, say Dillon or McGahee, would the Seahawks make the playoffs? Yeah, especially since, like the Pats with the AFC East, they get to feast on weaker division opponents (14 of his 27 TDs came against division foes). But would they be tops in the league? I don't think so.

    Ultimately, I'm going with Alexander. I think he's enough to put the Seahawks into the Super Bowl with a damn good chance at winning. But I'm not going to be upset if Palmer takes it.
  19. Moosashi

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    Damn. I missed last week. Oops.

    Denver Broncos
    N.Y. Giants
    Indianapolis Colts
    Baltimore Ravens
    Buffalo Bills
    Carolina Panthers
    Cincinnati Bengals
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    New England Patriots
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Seattle Seahawks
    San Francisco 49ers
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    Chicago Bears
    Washington Redskins
    Dallas Cowboys

    An interesting Toilet Bowl in 'frisco. Tough to call.
  20. Nerf-Herder

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    I went with the Bears' Defense. Face it people, they would be 0-15 without it. Lovi Smith is coach of the year, hands down, and the Bears will find themselves a VERY sexy Superbowl pick by most experts (myself incuded, even though I am not an expert).

    Pick-n-Rants for week 17 comin' shortly!

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