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minion duels

Discussion in 'PvP' started by vknez, Feb 23, 2007. | Replies: 22 | Views: 1391

  1. vknez

    vknez IncGamers Member

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    minion duels

    i would really like to see some minion duels. only 1 vs 1 so skellies are out.

    shadow vs grizzly vs valkyrie vs golem.
    with prebuff and auras and without them.

    and the winner is... (probbably grizzly)
     
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    jake007 IncGamers Member

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    grizzly easily...
     
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    Box IncGamers Member

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    A fully juiced griz vs. a fully juiced valk would be an interesting fight.
     
  4. jake007

    jake007 IncGamers Member

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    I think it's no competition, consider the fact that a pimped-out grizzly can mince my 6K life BvC (with 38%DR) in 6 hits, with PvP penalty.

    Shadow master/warrior won't stand a chance against a valkyrie or grizzly. Their arsenal is too scattered and lacking any serious damage dealers.
     
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    soul killer Banned

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    Maybe Grizzly..
    How about a pimped Infinity Golem?
    Or Grief Golem? (does +dmg add to golem dmg??
    I think Golem might win over Grizzly.
     
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    kingdryland IncGamers Member

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    How about a fully synergized grizzly vs the buffed valk of a pure passive ama...I've put a maxed master against a lvl 17 valk to fight and valk was clearly superior.
     
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    soul killer Banned

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    Did some claculations.

    Lvl51 Grizzly
    Life: 7700-10500 (40k with lvl51 Oak Sage)
    Dmg: 7412-7600 (36K with HoW)

    Lvl48 Valk
    Life: 5760-6912
    Dmg: +1175% (w/e that means)
    Will dodge ~60% of Grizzlys atks.

    Im not good at Maths and D2 mechanics, but I think all of that stuff is correct.
     
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    AnimeCraze IncGamers Member

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    It really depends on what the valk spawns with. 99% of the time, the griz will probably win.
     
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    Remember every minion have a low AI, and very bad fhr.

    I believe a SW would win this one easily. You can boost their trap damage beyond what any Assassin could get, you can still control this minion, and with mind blast, this minion will only die if it decides to use a normal attack in the first hit which is 33% chance, which makes this minion come out on top.
    Besides the SW can get 98% (if I remember correctly) percent physical resist with the maximum amount of plus skills. And completely elemental immunity with ease, like the necros revives, and IG.

    The match between the Grizzly, and the Valk looks close since the Valk has better defence qualities than the Grizzly, but I guess in a minion battle with the low AI, offence beats defence whereby a Grizzly would probably win due to its fast attacking.

    Golems would be a joke in this sort of battle since they don't deal enough damage, and even making an IG out of a good weap would still lack a lot of damage.

    So:
    #1 Shadow
    #2 Grizzly
    #3 Valk
    #4 Golem

    About the Shadow Master I don't know, with 98% physical resist, and knowing these guys tend to use the skills you have most points in I guess it would still win against the Grizzly. The two other minions simply lack attack speed, and the Golems don't deal enough damage.

    Btw. isn't there something about in a toe to toe duel Spirit Wolfs > Dire Wolfs > Grizzly due to the numbers and fhr lock?

    :smiley:
     
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    tinncann25 IncGamers Member

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    If you guys are on east and wana test this out

    ill make a grizzly haha
     
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    if anyone on europe is in for this ill make a pure valk ama
     
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    thorns grizzly versus valkery=baibai valk?:azn:
     
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    Well if the druid can use spirits and the such,can the amazon throw in some inner sight?
     
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    i'm guessing no runewords...
     
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    tinncann25 IncGamers Member

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    stacking auras is where the fun is at =P



     
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    is doom allowed? (are characters going to be outside of town or inside town)
     
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    well i have lev 45 shadow master (i have maxed venom, dt, and blade fury)

    i think auras and prebuffs should not be allowed (bo, last wish might aura and other minions giving auras...)

    and what about clay golem. crap dmg but insane amounts of life in hell and insane slow. for iron golem it should be allowed for using any item

    btw whats the venom lev of my master?
     
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    Gumby cant kill. Gumby cant kill. You need to kill to win :)

    Hmm perhaps an IG made of an High Speed/High Damage// High Leech weapon?
     
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    Haha, anything can kill, just yesterday I killed 2 people with ravens.
     
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    i made some searching myself.
    shadow skill lev = assa lev/2 + shadow lev/3 (all levels are with +skills)
    so my shadow have venom lev 37, 970-990 poison dmg/0.4 sec
    not bad

    also on shadow sinergies goes beyond lev 20. so if u have trapper with high lev shadow, she can kill with hers traps
     

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