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Legendary Item Drop Survey Results

Discussion in 'Diablo 3 General Discussion' started by Flux, Aug 7, 2013. | Replies: 16 | Views: 25093

  1. Flux

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    This is the "official" thread for results stemming from the legendary drop rate questionnaire. If you've been tracking your legendary drops, post the results here every time you've got enough data to justify an inclusion.

    Minimum data to track:

    • Legendary/Set item and its ilvl.
    • What dropped it: (trash mob, champion, yellow, random purple, quest purple, gobby, chest, golden chest, etc)

    You can also record your character's MF and the MP you were playing on, but I think we're most interested in tracking the frequency of each item dropping, so that data is optional. It's interesting, but it's too hard to measure drop frequency since everyone plays different areas, with different gear, MP or solo, with different builds, etc.

    Tech assistance:


    I am not experienced with managing spreadsheets, offline or via some google docs shared thing. If people who are want to suggest some better data management system, for formatting posts here, and to make it easier for people to record their results while playing, and to ultimately combine all the player reports in a more manageable form, that would be much appreciated.


    Legendary Drop Rate decoded:
    Check out the survey results article for depressing truths about why you so seldom find the few legendaries you most want.
    * http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-legendary-item-drop-rate-survey-results
  2. Flux

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    Just to start off, I've been tracking all my legendary finds for the past week or so, since this topic came up in discussion. I didn't have much time to play thanks to out of town guests. All were found in Act 2 on MP3 with my HC Monk with max MF. Thus the game starts with 375% and goes up to 450% with stacks. I never found anything during brief 475% Fortune Shrine windows, and only 1 of the below was found with less than 5 stacks, despite me doing fairly short games where i seldom killed more than 15 total Elites.


    • 60: The Sultan of Blinding Sand, 2H sword, Yellow Naga
    • 62: Won Khim Lau, Fist, Yellow Naga.
    • 62: Tiklandian Visage, WD Helm, Trash mob (desert spinner)
    • 62: Dawn, 1H Xbow, trash mob.
    • 62: Sledge of Athskeleng, 2H mace, Champion naga.
    • 63: Wizardspike, Dagger, Yellow Sand Imp
    • 63: Stormshield, Shield, Champion Skeleton
    • 63: Maximus, 2H Sword, Trash naga.
    • 63: Fury of the Vanished Peak, 2H Mighty weapon, Trash mob.
    • 63: Manajuma's Carving Knife, WD knife, trash mob.
    • 63: Sunkeeper, 1H mace, Treasure Goblin.


    Drop sources: 3 Yellow, 2 Champion, 5 Trash, 1 Gobby, 0 Chests, 0 purples. (Almost all these games were Vault of the Assassin + Dahlgur Oasis and its desert tomb, so I'm definitely killing more elites than usual over a short game, since the Vault of the Assassin has 7-9 in a small area with low concentrations of trash mobs.)

    Already I'm surprised at the results; not one of the items I think of as my "commonly found" legendaries, and no sets at all. Which is the benefit of actual records vs. anecdotes. It's why some people still believe in astrology and psychics; the few "hits" stick in your mind while all of the rest gets flushed as white noise. A handful of short A2 runs over a week isn't enough to draw long conclusions from, but I bet I don't really find that many Andy's hats and orange bracers; I've just found enough of those that I remember every time I do and forget all the other misc orange 2H weapons and WD hat type junk.

    Also, recording the drops is fun. Well, it adds to the experience at least, since I found each new CLANG interesting for the data, rather than just hoping it would be one of the handful of potentially great/valuable items.
  3. Flux

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    Importing posts from the other thread doesn't work right since they go chronologically and predate this one. But Dana Scully's post with some data was interesting.

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    Another useful set of results came on the main page news item from qtk33, who had a picture of his DB of recent finds:

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  4. Mrak

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    I have started to play on MP3 just for this survey (previously it was MP1, lol). Since I was already "recording" the Legendaries drops (tbh, only the screenshot), it was not a problem to note few statistics.

    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 700, align: center"]
    Name Type Lvl Dropped by Location MP MF NV Date Manticora Crossbow 63 Champion (Ghoul) Cave of Burrowing Horror - Level 1 3 424 5 04-08-2013 Litany of the Undead Ring - Set 62 White (Ghoul) Cave of Burrowing Horror - Level 2 3 424 5 04-08-2013 Calamity Hand Crossbow 63 White (Serpent Warrior?) The Ruins - Level 1 3 424 5 04-08-2013 Tzo Krin's Gaze Spitit Stone 61 Champion (Serpent Warrior) Dahlgur Oasis 3 424 5 05-08-2013 Vigilance Polearm 63 Rare (Accursed) Desolate Sands 3 424 5 05-08-2013 The Butcher's Sickle Axe 60 Purple (Dervish Lord) Hadi's Claim Mine 3 408 5 06-08-2013 Won Khim Lau Fist Weapon 62 White (Wood Wraith) Fields of Misery 3 427 5 07-08-2013 Inna's Favor Belt - Set 63 White (Moon Clan Warrior?) Fields of Misery 3 427 5 07-08-2013 Calamity Hand Crossbow 63 White (Carrion Bat?) Cathedral - Level 4 3 430 5 08-08-2013 Echoing Fury Mace 62 White (Grotesque?) Cathedral - Level 1 3 430 5 08-08-2013 ///// ///// /// ///// ///// /// /// /// ///// Andariel's Visage Helm 62 White (Moon Clan Warrior?) Fields of Misery 3 434 5 09-08-2013 Xephirian Amulet Amulet 62 White (Savage Beast) Fields of Misery 3 434 5 09-08-2013 Hellrack Crossbow 61 White (Blood Clan Mauler) Tower of the Cursed - Level 1 3 411 5 09-08-2013 Won Khim Lau Fist Weapon 62 Champion (Carrion Bat) Cathedral - Level 2 3 448 5 10-08-2013 Storm Crow Wizard Hat 63 Tresure Pygmy Southern Highlands 3 475 5 10-08-2013 Immortal King Irons Gloves - Set 63 White (Ravenous Dead?) The Weeping Hollow 3 375 - 11-08-2013 Won Khim Lau Fist Weapon 62 Rare (Tomb Guardian) Cathedral - Level 3 3 450 5 13-08-2013 Messerschmidt's Reaver Two-Handed Axe 60 Chest Crypt of the Ancients 3 403 5 13-08-2013 Dark Mage's Shade Wizard Hat 58 White (Decayer?) Decaying Crypt - Level 2 3 403 5 14-08-2013 The Burning Axe of Sankis Axe 62 Purple (Mother Rathe) Decaying Crypt - Level 2 3 403 5 14-08-2013 ///// ///// /// ///// ///// /// /// /// ///// Storm Crow Wizard Hat 63 White (Ravenous Dead?) The Weeping Hollow 3 328 - 16-08-2013 Natalya's Slayer Hand Crossbow - Set 63 Dead Villager Cathedral - Level 2 3 406 5 16-08-2013 Lamentation Mighty Belt 63 Rare (Disentombed Hulk) Halls of Agony - Level 2 3 406 5 17-08-2013 The Tormentor Staff 61 Champion (Imp) Defiled Crypt 3 406 5 17-08-2013 Ageless Might Mighty Belt 61 White (Returned) Crypt of the Ancients 3 406 5 18-08-2013 Ageless Might Mighty Belt 61 Champion (Ravenous Dead) Cathedral - Level 1 3 409 5 18-08-2013 Gladiator Guantlets Gloves 61 White (Savage Beast?) Fields of Misery 3 409 5 19-08-2013 Andariel's Visage Helm 62 Champion (Chubby Purple Unicorn) Whimsyshire 3 412 5 19-08-2013 Sun Keeper Mace 63 Resplendent Chest The Secluded Grove 3 412 5 21-08-2013 Tzo Krin's Gaze Spitit Stone 61 White (Dark Moon Clan Warrior) Leoric's Hunting Grounds 3 412 5 21-08-2013 [/TABLE]
    Note: table "stolen" from bluedragon.


    Summary: 30 Legendaries

    - Legendary: 26
    - Set: 4

    - Item Level:
    --- 58: 1
    --- 59: 0
    --- 60: 2
    --- 61: 7
    --- 62: 9
    --- 63: 11

    - Dropped by:
    --- White: 15
    --- Champion: 6
    --- Rare: 3
    --- Purple: 2
    --- Treasure Goblin: 1
    --- Resplendent Chest: 1
    --- Clickable: 2

    Single Player, Act 2 and Act 1 "Runs". I usually clear all the areas before leaving, so probably why the white mobs have the biggest drop %. This is a a big change from my MP1 experience. Another thing I have noticed is the quality of the drops (including rares), maybe a bit of luck but first Manticore, first Inna's Favor, first two Calamity, etc. As a Barbarian, I was quite happy ...
    Also, two set items. So, it's 4 to 1 in favor of normal Legendaries.
    The question mark near the mob names is because there were different types of enemies and I have put the one which I think that has dropped the item.

    The next update will be the next ten Legendaries, probably.

    Note: I and some of my friends used to record the Uniques/Sets and Runes in D2 (also thanks to PlugY and the increased inventory). This survey really reminds me some old good gaming days ...


    Update: new ten drops. Also, the comments above are from the first ten Legendaries, so they are "obsolete".

    Update #2: new ten drops. Table now in spoiler. Added a short summary in the end.
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2013
  5. nurman

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    "Official" unofficial thread :D?

    I'll reserve this post-spot for myself.

    I'll update it as often I can. :thumbup:

    Don't be shy to copy/use my base :)


    The chart for my drops

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    #NUMBER Item item type ilvl Place MP MF * marks that shrine was active Nephelem Stacks Monster NOT 100% accurate Which # run of the day Which # drop of the run date (D/M/Y)
    1 Mara's Kaleidoscope Amulet 62 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 6 376 5 (trash) Skeleton 1st 1st 04.08.13
    2 Shenglong's fist of legend Fist weapon 63 (a1) crypt of the ancients 7 371 3 (trash) Skeleton 2nd 1st 04.08.13
    3 The Compass Rose Ring 62 (a1) fields of misery 7 401 5 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 2nd 2nd 04.08.13
    4 Ivory Tower Shield 61 (a1) fields of misery 7 401 5 (Trash) Plague Carrier 3rd 1st 04.08.13
    5 Butcher's Sickle One-handed Axe 60 (a3) Stonefort 7 420 5 (trash) Fallen Warrior 4th 1st 04.08.13
    6 Wizardspike Dagger 63 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 7 423 5 (Trash) Demon Raider 1st 1st 09.08.13
    7 Stormcrow Wizard Helmet 63 (a3) Tower of the cursed lv 1 7 408 (on 4 stacks) 3 (Elite) Blood Clan Mauler 1st 1st 10.08.13
    8 Balefire caster Hand crossbow 60 (a3) fields of slaughter 7 423 5 (elite) Blood Clan Spearman 1st 1st 11.08.13
    9 Strongarm Bracers Bracers 62 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 7 423 5 (trash) Skeleton 1st 2nd 11.08.13
    10 Fury Of the Vanished Peak Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 63 (a3) Stonefort 7 423 5 (Super Unique) Xah'Rith The Keywarden 1st 3rd 11.08.13
    11 Skycutter One-handed Sword 60 (a1) Defiled Crypt (1lv only, no random encounter) 8 454 5 (rare) Grotesque 2nd 1st 11.08.13
    12 Natalya's Embrace Cloak 63 (a1) The Cursed Hold 8 455 5 (trash) Skeleton 1st 1st 12.08.13
    13 The Compass Rose Ring 62 (a1) fields of misery 8 455 5 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior OR plague carrier 1st 2nd 12.08.13
    14 The burning axe of sankis One-handed Axe 62 (a1) fields of misery 8 457 5 (trash) can't remember 2nd 1st 12.08.13
    15 Strongarm Bracers Bracers 62 (a1) The Festering woods 9 429 1 (trash) Plague Carrier or Enraged Phantom 4rd 1st 12.08.13
    16 Ageless Might Mighty Belt 61 (a1) fields of misery 9 482 5 (Trash) Plague Carrier 4rd 2nd 12.08.13
    17 Gladiator Gauntlets gloves 61 (a1) fields of misery 9 485 5 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 4rd 3rd 12.08.13
    18 Sledge of athskeleng Two-handed mace 62 (a1) fields of misery 9 485 5 (Super Unique) sicklefang 4rd 4th 12.08.13
    19 Natalya's Reflection Ring 62 (a3) tower of the damned lv1 9 463 3 (trash) fallen soldier 1st 1st 13.08.13
    20 Stormshield Shield 63 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 9 495 5 (trash) Skeleton 2nd 1st 13.08.13
    21 Visage of giyua Voodoo Mask 63 (a3) Stonefort 9 495 5 (trash) fallen dog / demon trooper / demonic hellflayer (not sure) 2nd 2nd 13.08.13
    22 Sledge of athskeleng Two-handed mace 62 (a1) fields of misery 8 267 0 (trash)plague carrier 3rd 1st 13.08.13
    23 Andariel's Visage Helm 62 (a1) fields of misery 8 267 0 (trash) unknown (discarded by other players?) 3rd 2nd 13.08.13
    24 Fire Walkers Boots 62 (a1) fields of misery 7 267 + 1 neph stack 1 (trash) unknown (discarded by other players?) 3rd 3rd 13.08.13
    25 Tal Rasha's Guise Of Wisdom Helm 63 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 7 418 5 (elite) skeleton archer 1st 1st 14.08.13
    26 Balefire caster Hand crossbow 60 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 7 418 5 (elite) skeleton skull cleaver 1st 2nd 14.08.13
    27 Stormshield Shield 63 (a3) Stonefort 7 424 5 (trash) fallen overlord 2nd 1st 14.08.13
    28 Oculus Ring Ring 62 (a1) festering woods 8 413 3 (trash) Returned Archer 1st 1st 16.08.13
    29 unity Ring 62 (a1) fields of misery 8 455 5 (trash) a tree mob or a burrowed leaper 1st 1st 17.08.13
    30 slorak's madness wand 63 (a1) festering woods 8 389 1 (trash) Plague Carrier or Enraged Phantom 1st 1st 18.08.13
    31 uhkapian serpent mojo 63 (a1) festering woods 8 404 2 (trash) enraged phantom 1st 2nd 18.08.13
    32 Fire Walkers Boots 62 (a1) scavenger's den lv 2 8 452 5 (elite) burrowing leaper 1st 3rd 18.08.13
    33 witching hour belt 63 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 7 435 5 (trash) icy quillback 2nd 1st 18.08.13
    34 the gavel of judgement Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 60 (a1) crypt of the ancients 7 411 3 (trash) returned 3rd 1st 19.08.13
    35 echoing fury One-handed Mace 62 (a1) fields of misery 7 444 5 (Super Unique) sicklefang 4th 1st 19.08.13
    36 Ivory Tower Shield 61 (a1) Defiled Crypt (triple level one) 9 496 5 (trash) ghostly murderer 1st 1st 24.08.13
    37 the inquisitor Cloak 63 (a1) Defiled Crypt (triple level one) 9 496 5 (trash) carrion bat 1st 2nd 24.08.13
    38 madstone spirit stone 63 (a1) the weeping hollow 9 499 5 (trash) ravenous dead 1st 3rd 24.08.13
    39 Immortal King's boulder breaker Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 63 (a1) fields of misery 9 499 5 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 1st 4th 24.08.13
    40 Lacuni's Prowlers Bracers 63 (a1) fields of misery 10 468 0 (trash) burrowing leaper 2nd 1st 24.08.13
    41 Inna's radiance spirit stone 63 (a1) festering woods 10 528 3 (elite) returned archer 2nd 2nd 24.08.13
    42 heart slaughter polearm 60 (a1) den of the fallen lv 2 9 *527 5 (replescent) chest 3rd 1st 24.08.13
    43 Andariel's Visage Helm 62 (a1) whimsyshire 9 502 5 (trash) cubble bear 3rd 2nd 24.08.13
    44 Doombringer One-handed Sword 60 (a1) crypt of the ancients 9 ~400 2 – 4 (trash) skeleton warrior 1st 1st 27.08.13
    45 Skycutter One-handed Sword 60 (a1) leoric's manor courtyard 10 474 0 (trash) dark cultist 2nd 1st 27.08.13
    46 Fury Of the Vanished Peak Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 63 (a1) fields of misery 10 489 1 (trash) ? 2nd 2nd 27.08.13
    47 Stormcrow Wizard Helmet 63 (a1) fields of misery 10 489 1 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 2nd 3rd 27.08.13
    48 the grand vizier staff 63 (a1) fields of misery 10 489 1 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 2nd 4th 27.08.13
    49 the tormentor staff 61 (a1) the weeping hollow 9 508 5 (trash) ravenous dead 1st 1st 29.08.13
    50 tasker and theo gloves 63 (a1) leoric's manor 9 ~400 0 (rare) dark cultist 1st 1st 30.08.13
    51 the gavel of judgement Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 60 (a1) fields of misery 7 445 5 (trash) ? 2nd 1st 30.08.13
    52 Strongarm Bracers Bracers 62 (a1) fields of misery 7 445 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 2nd 2nd 30.08.13
    53 the grandfather Two-Handed sword 63 (a1) scavenger's den lv 1 7 445 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 2nd 3rd 30.08.13
    54 blackthorne's spurs Boots 63 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 445 5 (trash) decayer summoned by a spewing horror 1st 1st 31.08.13
    55 Chantado's force source 63 (a1) fields of misery 7 456 5 (elite) plague carrier 2nd 1st 31.08.13
    56 won khim lau Fist weapon 62 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 469 5 (trash) ? 3rd 1st 31.08.13
    57 Ageless Might Mighty Belt 61 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 469 5 (trash) ? 3rd 2nd 31.08.13
    58 the gibdinn ceremonial knife 61 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 469 5 (trash) ? 3rd 3rd 31.08.13
    59 the gibdinn ceremonial knife 61 (a1) southern highlands 3 ~270 1 (elite) moon clan warrior (many short Watch tower runs) X 31.08.13
    60 crystal fist Fist weapon 63 (a3) core of arreat 7 284 1 (trash) hulking beast 1st 1st 05.09.13
    61 schaefer's hammer Two-handed mace 63 (a1) festering woods 7 299 2 (trash) Skeleton 2nd 1st 05.09.13
    62 the star of azkaranth Amulet 61 (a1) lost mine lv 2 7 350 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 2nd 2nd 05.09.13
    63 frostburns gloves 62 (a1) the weeping hollow 7 354 5 (trash) ? 3rd 1st 05.09.13
    64 hellrack crossbow 61 (a1) lost mine lv 2 7 354 5 (trash) ? 3rd 2nd 05.09.13
    65 messerschmidt's reaver Two-handed axe 60 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 354 5 (trash) ? 3rd 3rd 05.09.13
    66 heart slaughter polearm 60 (a4) hellrift (first) 5 247 1 (trash) ? 4th 1th 05.09.13
    67 dawn Hand crossbow 62 (a2) the unknown depths 7 360 5 (trash) ? 6th 1st 05.09.13
    68 the gavel of judgement Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 60 (a1) den of the fallen lv 1 7 404* 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 7th 1st 05.09.13
    69 inna's favor belt 63 (a1) lost mine lv 1 7 379 5 (trash) ? 7th 2nd 05.09.13
    70 tasker and theo gloves 63 (a1) defiled crypt (?) 7 386 5 (trash) ? 1st 1st 06.09.13
    71 depth diggers pants 63 (a1) fields of misery 7 391 5 (rare) burrowing leaper 1st 1st 08.09.13
    72 dawn Hand crossbow 62 (a2) the storm halls 7 404*, at 4 stacks 3 (rare) spider thingy or dust imp 2nd 1st 08.09.13
    73 hellrack crossbow 61 (a2) tomb of khan dakab 7 394 5 (trash) writhing deceiver 2nd 2nd 08.09.13
    74 manticore crossbow 63 (a1) Defiled Crypt (jar of souls) 10 545(at 5) 3 (trash) Skeleton 3rd 1st 08.09.13
    75 tzo krin's gaze spirit stone 61 (a1) Defiled Crypt (jar of souls) 10 545 (at 5) 3 (trash) during jar of souls 3rd 2nd 08.09.13
    76 Ivory Tower Shield 61 (a2) the storm halls 7 397 5 (trash) ? 1st 1st 09.09.13
    77 Zunimassa's string of skulls mojo 63 (a2) the unknown depths 7 388 (at 4) 1 (trash) ? 3rd 1st 09.09.13
    78 Oculus Ring Ring 62 (a2) ancient cave lv 1 7 403 5 (trash) ? 4th 1st 09.09.13
    79 skorn Two-handed axe 63 (a2) realm of shadow 7 427 5 (trash) ? 5th 1st 09.09.13
    80 Fury Of the Vanished Peak Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 63 (a2) realm of shadow 7 427 5 (trash) ? 5th 2nd 09.09.13
    81 the tormentor staff 61 (a2) the unknown depths 7 374 (at 3) 2 (rare) skeletal warrior 1st 1st 10.09.13
    82 depth diggers pants 63 (a2) dahlgur oasis 7 404 5 (super Unique) Sokahr the Keywarden 1st 2nd 10.09.13
    83 Natalya's Embrace Cloak 63 (a2) the storm halls 7 407 5 (trash) Skeleton 3rd 1st 10.09.13
    84 the grand vizier staff 63 (a2) dahlgur oasis 7 407 5 (trash) fallen peon 3rd 2nd 10.09.13
    85 Strongarm Bracers Bracers 62 (a2) dahlgur oasis 7 407 5 (trash) fallen (warrior or peon) 3rd 3rd 10.09.13
    86 the tormentor staff 61 (a1) festering woods 8 p60 barb with 20%mf of depth diggers 2 (trash) returned 1st 1st 11.09.13
    87 Strongarm Bracers Bracers 62 (a1) crypt of the ancients 7 420*, with 4 stacks 3 (rare) returned 2nd 1st 11.09.13
    88 Gladiator Gauntlets gloves 61 (a1) the weeping hollow 7 410 5 (trash) ravenous dead 2nd 2nd 11.09.13
    89 hellrack crossbow 61 (a1) fields of misery 7 413 5 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 2nd 3rd 11.09.13
    90 azurewrath One-handed Sword 63 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 461* 5 (trash) decayer 3rd 1st 11.09.13
    91 sky splitter One-handed Axe 63 (a1) fields of misery 7 436 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 3rd 2nd 11.09.13
    92 Ivory Tower Shield 61 (a1) festering woods 7 391 3 (trash) skeleton archer 2nd 1st 13.09.13
    93 messerschmidt's reaver Two-handed axe 60 (a1) festering woods 7 421 5 (trash) skeleton warrior 2nd 2nd 13.09.13
    94 Lacuni's Prowlers Bracers 63 (a1) the weeping hollow 7 424 5 (trash) ravenous dead 3rd 1st 13.09.13
    95 Gladiator Gauntlets gloves 61 (a2) the storm halls 7 427 5 (trash) skeletal raider 1st 1st 15.09.13
    96 Gladiator Gauntlets gloves 61 (a2) ancient cave lv 1 7 427 5 (trash) chilling construct 1st 2nd 15.09.13
    97 pus spitter crossbow 60 (a2) the storm halls 7 440 5 (trash) toxic construct 1st 1st 17.09.13
    98 the inquisitor Cloak 63 (a2) realm of shadow 7 440 5 (rare) sand behemoth 1st 2nd 17.09.13
    99 The burning axe of sankis One-handed Axe 62 (a2) desolate sands 7 440 5 (trash) ? 1st 3rd 17.09.13
    100 Fury Of the Vanished Peak Two-Handed Mighty Weapon 63 (a2) cave of the betrayer lv 2 7 440 5 (trash) ? 1st 4th 17.09.13
    101 the grand vizier staff 63 (a2) the forgotten ruins 7 440 5 (trash) ? 1st 5th 17.09.13
    102 Ivory Tower Shield 61 (a3) Keep Depths Lv2 7 433 5 (Trash) Demon Raider 2nd 1st 17.09.13
    103 Gladiator Gauntlets gloves 61 (a2) cave of the betrayer lv 2 7 461 5 (trash) ? 3rd 1st 17.09.13
    104 Gladiator Gauntlets gloves 61 (a2) old fisherman's cellar 7 461 5 (rare) serpent magus 3rd 2nd 17.09.13
    105 inna's vast expanse chest 63 (a2) dahlgur oasis 7 464 5 (trash) serpent ? 3rd 3rd 17.09.13
    106 Bul-kathos's solemn vow One-handed mighty weapon 63 (a1) festering woods 7 433 at 4 stacks 3 (trash) Skeleton 1st 1st 18.09.13
    107 Strongarm Bracers Bracers 62 (a1) fields of misery 7 448 5 (rare) savage beast 1st 2nd 18.09.13
    108 depth diggers pants 63 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 448 5 (trash) decayer 1st 3rd 18.09.13
    109 Stormshield Shield 63 (a2) the unknown depths 7 436 4 (trash) arcane construct 1st 1st 24.09.13
    110 Stormcrow Wizard Helmet 63 (a2) cave of the betrayer lv 1 7 451 5 (trash) brood hatchling 1st 2nd 24.09.13
    111 Skycutter One-handed Sword 60 (a1) the weeping hollow 7 454 5 (trash) grotesque 1st 1st 25.09.13
    112 Ivory Tower Shield 61 (a1) den of the fallen lv 1 7 454 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 1st 2nd 25.09.13
    113 empyrean messenger spear 63 (a1) decaying crypt lv 1 7 547 5 (trash) decayer 1st 3rd 25.09.13
    114 witching hour belt 63 (a1) the weeping hollow 7 547 5 (trash) retching cadaver 1st 1st 28.09.13
    115 azurewrath One-handed Sword 63 (a1) the weeping hollow 7 547 5 (rare) Grotesque 1st 2nd 28.09.13
    116 the gibdinn ceremonial knife 61 (a1) the weeping hollow 7 547 5 (trash) ravenous dead 1st 3rd 28.09.13
    117 blackthorne's surcoat chest 63 (a1) fields of misery 7 547 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 1st 4th 28.09.13
    118 madstone spirit stone 63 (a1) festering woods 8 440 2 (trash) returned 1st 1st 01.10.13
    119 inna's temperance pants 63 (a1) the weeping hollow 8 485 5 (trash) ravenous dead 1st 2nd 01.10.13
    120 inna's favor belt 63 (a1) den of the fallen lv 1 8 485 5 (elite) carrion bat 1st 3rd 01.10.13
    121 Natalya's Embrace Cloak 63 (a1) the weeping hollow 8 485 5 (trash) ravenous dead 1st 4th 01.10.13
    122 the sultan of blinding sand Two-Handed sword 60 (a1) fields of misery 8 485 5 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 1st 5th 01.10.13
    123 natalya's sight Helm 63 (a1) scavenger's den lv 1 8 485 5 (elite) burrowing leaper 1st 6th 01.10.13
    124 band of hollow whispers Ring 61 (a1) scavenger's den lv 2 8 510* 5 (rare) burrowing leaper 1st 7th 01.10.13
    125 madstone spirit stone 63 (a1) den of the fallen lv 1 8 486 5 (trash) burrowing leaper 2nd 1st 01.10.13
    126 immortal King's tribal binding Mighty Belt 63 (a1) fields of misery 8 496 5 (trash) Moon Clan Warrior 2nd 2nd 01.10.13
    127 Balefire caster Hand crossbow 60 (a1) halls of agony lv2 8 499 5 (trash) dark berserker 2nd 3rd 01.10.13
    128 tal rasha's allegiance Amulet 62 (a1) halls of agony lv2 8 499 5 (trash) dark berserker 2nd 4th 01.10.13
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    this is a very good thread flux & although I usually don't get many legendaries but I decided to track & post my results anyway

    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 700, align: left"]
    name type ilvl dropped by location MP MF NV date Death Watch Mantle shoulder 58 trash (Tomb Guardian) Cathedral L2 5 321 2 9/8/2013 Mempo of Twilight helm 63 champion (Chubby purple unicorn) Whimsyshire 5 369 5 9/8/2013 Ageless might mighty belt 61 trash (Ravenous Dead) The Weeping Hollow 5 369 5 10/8/2013 Sever 1-handed sword 62 rare (scavenger) Den of the Fallen L1 (The Weeping Hollow) 5 372 5 10/8/2013 Inna's Radiance spirit stone(set) 63 trash (Khazra???) Fields of Misery 5 372 5 10/8/2013 Storm Crow wizard hat 63 trash (decayer) Decaying crypt L1 (Fields of Misery) 5 375 5 10/8/2013 Stormshield shield 63 trash (decayer) Decaying crypt L1 (Fields of Misery) 5 375 5 10/8/2013 Visage of Giyua Voodoo mask 63 trash (grotesque???) The Weeping Hollow 5 375 5 12/8/2013 Fire Walkers Boots 62 trash (skeleton) Defiled Crypt (cemetery of the forsaken) 5 366 4 15/8/2013 Heart Slaughter Polearm 60 trash (ravenous dead) Defiled Crypt (cemetery of the forsaken) 5 381 5 15/8/2013 TZO KRIN'S GAZE spirit stone 61 champion (moon clan warrior) Fields of Misery 5 381 5 15/8/2013 Devil Tongue 1-handed sword 63 Rare (twinkleroot) Whimsyshire 5 381 5 15/8/2013 Stormshield shield 63 trash (twinkleroot or cuddle bear) Whimsyshire 5 381 5 15/8/2013 Natalya's Embrace cloak(set) 63 trash (cuddle bear) Whimsyshire 5 384 5 15/8/2013 Lamentation mighty belt 63 trash (skeleton) Defiled Crypt (cemetery of the forsaken) 5 384 5 24/8/2013 The Gavel of Judgment 2-handed mighty weapon 60 Rare (Dune thresher) Howling Plateau 5 360 3 26/8/2013 Calamity hand crossbow 63 champion (sand wasp) Howling Plateau 5 390 5 26/8/2013 Stormshield shield 63 trash (serpent magus) The Ruins L1 (stinging winds) 5 390 5 27/8/2013 Triumvirate source 62 trash (skeletal bowmaster or skeletal raider) The Unknown Depths (Archives of Zoltun Kulle) 5 393 5 28/8/2013 Promise of Glory bracers 60 trash (Dust Shambler) Desolate Sands 5 396 5 28/8/2013 Stormshield shield 63 rare (Fallen Conjurer) Dahlgur Oasis 5 396 5 28/8/2013 Lacuni Prowlers bracers 63 trash (fallen) Black Canyon Mines 5 387 4 19/11/2013 Strongarm Bracers bracers 62 trash (skeleton) The Storm Halls (Archives of Zoltun Kulle) 5 402 5 23/11/2013 The Sultan of Blinding Sands 2-handed sword 60 Guardian tower!!!! The Ruins L2 (stinging winds) 5 402 5 23/11/2013 Flying Dragon daibo 63 champion (toxic construct) The Storm Halls (Archives of Zoltun Kulle) 5 405 5 25/11/2013 Inna's Temperance pants (set) 63 trash (writhing deciever??) Dahlgur Oasis 5 405 5 25/11/2013 Inna's radiance spirit stone (set) 63 purple (Ashangu) Dahlgur Oasis 5 405 5 25/11/2013 Thing of the Deep mojo 62 champion (serpent magus) Dahlgur Oasis 5 405 5 27/11/2013 Warmonger 2-handed sword 62 trash (savage flyer) Ancient Cave L1 (Dahlgur Oasis) 5 408 5 27/11/2013 Sun Keeper 1-handed mace 63 rare (vicious ghoul) Sirocco Caverns L1 (Howling Plateau) 5 408 5 27/11/2013 Thing of the Deep mojo 63 trash (fallen master or fallen peon) Dahlgur Oasis 5 408 5 27/11/2013 [/TABLE]

    N.B(26/8/2013):I did 4 act 1 runs in past 2 days without receiving any legendaries (exept for 1 key of destruction) so I decided to do some changes & farm act 2
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    Nice formatting on these. I'll have to copy it myself when I add some more results. Also, "chubby purple unicorn" is maybe the best phrase in English that I've heard this month. It reminds me how long it's been since I entered Whimsyshire, too.

    I'm going to plug this thread on the main page next week, so we should see an influx of results coming in the future. And a user has volunteered to help with putting the results into excel, so combined meta data should be in the not too distant future.
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    Here's some more data points...I haven't been finding many Legendaries over the past week of play:

    Found on Normal difficulty (with a new HC Demon Hunter)

    What: Boneshatter (Legendary 2-H Mace lvl 17)
    From: Treasure Goblin
    MF = 59%
    MP = 5

    What: The Stolen Ring (Legendary Ring lvl 24)
    From: trash mob
    MF = 66%
    MP = 5

    Found in Inferno (with lvl 60 chars in soft core)
    What: Immortal King's chest (Set Chest Armor lvl 63)
    From: trash mob
    MF = 426%
    MP = 3

    What: Zunimassas's Vision (Set Voodoo Mask lvl 63)
    From: trash mob
    MF = 341%
    MP = 5

    What: Flying Dragon (Legendary Daibo lvl 63)
    From: purple monster "Scourge of the Harvest" (from one of the Act 1 events in Fields of Misery)
    MF = 426%
    MP = 3

    Good hunting everyone! =^-^=
  10. Flux

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    I've been lazy about adding more, but my initial piece of paper is full so I must report results. And perhaps get more organized for recording more in the future. I'm only recording item and what drops it, since the rest requires too much context of your char, play style, etc. Generally, these were found by my Monk from P83-86 or so, all in solo games, and mostly on MP3, hence with 450% MF. (Some MP4 and MP2 mixed in, and a very few found at the start of the game before I was stacked up, so I doubt any dropped with less than 400% MF.)

    Click spoiler button to view item found tables.

    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 500"]
    Ilvl Item Item Type Drop Source 60 Heart Slaughter Legendary Polearm A3 Keywarden 60 Butcher's Sickle Legendary 1H Axe Trash 60 The Sultan of Blinding Sand Legendary 2H Sword Trash 61 Ageless Might Legendary Barb Belt Blue Imp 61 Ivory Tower Legendary Shield #1: Trash #2: Trash Skeleton 61 Tzo Krin's Gaze Legendary Monk Helm #1: Trash #2: Trash Fallen Imp 61 The Tormentor Legendary Staff Trash Skeleton [/TABLE]



    Man these tables are unforgiving to work with. Cutting, pasting, adding or deleting rows or cells = do not want.

    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 500"]
    Ilvl Item Item Type Drop Source 62 Warmonger Legendary 2H Sword Blue Eels 62 Xephirian Amulet Legendary Amulet Trash 62 Dawn Legendary 1H Xbow #1: Yellow Naga #2: Trash #3: Yellow Hovercraft 62 Frost Burns Legendary Gloves Trash 62 Litany of the Undaunted Set Ring Trash (green bomber imp) 62 Tiklandian Visage Legendary WD Helm Trash 62 Sledge of Athskeleng Legendary 2H Mace Trash 63 Azurewrath Legendary Sword Blue Naga 63 Skorn Legendary 2H Axe #1: Trash Fallen Imp #2: Trash Naga 63 Sun Keeper Legendary 1H Mace A3 Keywarden 63 The Grandfather Legendary 2H Sword The Butcher 63 Manticore Legendary Xbow Trash 63 Tasker and Theo Legendary Glove Yellow Hovercraft 63 Empyrean Messenger Legendary Spear Trash 63 Bul-Kathos' Warrior's Blood Set 1H Mighty Weapon Trash 63 Lacuni Prowlers Legendary Bracers Treasure Goblin 63 Natalya's Bloody Footprints Set Boots Trash 63 Dead Man's Legacy Legendary Quiver Trash Skeleton 63 Storm Crow Legendary Wiz Helm Trash Skeleton [/TABLE]

    Tally: 31 items
    • Set: 3
    • Legendary: 28

    Item Level:
    • Level 60: 3
    • Level 61: 6
    • Level 62: 9
    • Level 63: 13

    Drop Source:
    • Trash Mob: 21
    • Blue Elite: 3
    • Yellow Elite: 3
    • KeyWarden: 2
    • Act Boss: 1
    • Treasure Goblin: 1
    • Clickables: 0

    Surprised how many came from trash mobs and how few from Elites. Other tallies I've seen have been more like 50% elite, 40% trash, and 10% KW, chests, goblins, etc. My first batch of 11 was 5 trash, 5 elite, 1 goblin, with basically teh same character, so maybe just a run of RNG bad on elites and/or good on trash?

    That data from everyone would be interesting broken down by MP and MF; is there's some threshold that really boosts the drops from trash mobs? Higher MP turns up their random rare+ drops, after all, but I was only on MP3 for most of this, and I know the last 4 drops were all from trash mobs and all were on MP2 since I got all last night and today while I was experimenting with slightly diff build and playing on a lower MP to compare speed of exp gain.
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    I decided to make my list too, even though I'm playing with around 200-230% magic find (it's most I ever had, but legs were still dropping for me before, including Tal Rasha's chest with All Res). My runs are usually long:
    A1 - Leoric's Manor, Festering, Fields of Misery (until KeyWarden), Cemetery, Hollowed (since few runs), Fields of Misery (clearing whats left), (Sometimes Warden and/or Butcher)
    A3 - Keep's Depths 2, Rakkis, Stonefront, Arreat Crater 3 -> Azmodan, (Sometimes I'm doing also other stuff)
    so I'm doing 1-2 runs per day.

    Statistics
    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 600, align: center"]
    Name Type iLvl MP MF Source Location #Run #Drop Date Madstone Spirit Stone 63 2 234 trash, Kazhra Shaman A1, - 1 1 13.08.2013 Fire Walkers Boots 62 2 222 trash, skeleton (archer?) A3, Keep Depths 2 1 1 14.08.2013 Cindercoat Chest Armor 60 2 202 champion, Borrowing Leaper A1, - 1 1 16.08.2013 Strongarm Bracers Bracers 62 2 208 trash/elite trash, skeleton A1, - 1 1 17.08.2013 Schaefer's Hammer Two-Handed Mace 63 2 208 trash, hungry torso A1, Hollowed Ground 1 2 17.08.2013 The GrandFather Two-Handed Sword 63 2 231 purple, Enmerkar (Last Stand of the Ancients) A1, Festering Grounds 1 1 18.08.2013 Dark Mage's Shade Wizard Hat 58 2 209 elite, skeleton archer A1, Festering Grounds 1 1 19.08.2013 Andariel's Visage Helm 62 2 234 trash, harvester/elite, mother A1, Crypt 1 2 19.08.2013 Sky Splitter Axe 63 2 234 champion, hungry corpse A1, Crypt 1 3 19.08.2013 Skull Grasp Ring 61 2 234 champion, ravenous dead A1, Crypt 1 1 20.08.2013 Sultan of the Blinding Sand 2-H Sword 60 2 234 champion, scavanger A1, Den of the Fallen 1 2 20.08.2013 Fragment of Destiny Wand 60 3 259 trash, Tree A1, Fields of Misery 2 1 20.08.2013 Tormentor Staff 61 3 262 Treasure Goblin A1, Crypt 2 2 20.08.2013 Gidbinn Ceremonial Knife 61 3 262 trash, skeleton A1, Chancellor's Tomb 2 3 20.08.2013 Gavel of Judgement 2-H Mighty Weapon 60 4 267 elite, copperfang lurker A2, Vault of the Assasins 2 1 21.08.2013 Warmonger 2-H Sword 62 4 270 champion, shaman A2, Dalguhr Oasis 5 1 21.08.2013 Gavel of Judgement 2-H Mighty Weapon 60 4 270 trash, w... deceiver A2, Dalguhr Oasis 1 1 22.08.2013 Tzo Krin's Gaze Spirit Stone 61 4 240 elite, shock guardian A2, Vault of the Assasins 1 1 23.08.2013 Stormshield Shield 63 6 248 trash, skeleton A3, Keep Depths 2 1 1 24.08.2013 Tzo Krin's Gaze Spirit Stone 61 6 311 trash, skeleton A3, Keep Depths 2 1 2 24.08.2013 Traveler's Pledge Amulet 62 6 325 boss, Uber Rakanoth A1, Realm of Chaos 5 1 24.08.2013 Hellrack CrossBow 61 6 329 boss, Uber Mahgda A1, Realm of Discord 5 2 24.08.2013 Madstone Spirit Stone 63 6 299 trash, returned archer A1, Festering Woods 1 1 26.08.2013 [/TABLE]

    Results are satisfying a lot. I never had so many legs dropped (though I didn't played a lot since 1.08 came alive) but I never run with so many MF too. I had many legs dropping before (some legacy are still in my stash). First legs dropped A2 normal, consecutive from champion pack and treasure goblin (I wasn't able to calm down from first leg when 2nd dropped, that was fun - killed champion pack -> leg, moved few inches, I see gobbie -> another leg :)), that was 3-4 days after game release at Caldeum Sewers.

    Some info
    19.08.2013 (+9)- I believe that was first time I ever got 3 legs on 1 run.

    20.08.2013 (+5)- What I can say? 5 legs in one day!? Really? Wow, it's just plain amazing, I can't say how happy I am :D 2nd Tormentor means two enchantresses running with legendary staffs. Now I can say that going above 200 MF makes big difference in legs dropping.

    27.08.2013 (+9)- Was doing some key runs lately, many short runs. It looks that longer runs were giving me more legs - it's just better to kill more.
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    Okay, here's a few more data points. I've been spreading my play time around a bit, between low-mid level HC and my MF Demon Hunter in softcore (though I often wonder if all that MF has any effect on Legendaries).

    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 650, align: center"]
    Item Name Item Type I Lvl Dropped By [TD="align: center"]MF%[/TD] MP Visage of Giyua Leg. Voodoo Mask [TD="align: center"]63[/TD] trash mob [TD="align: center"]454[/TD] [TD="align: center"]4[/TD] The Executioner Leg. 2-H Axe [TD="align: center"]19[/TD] trash mob [TD="align: center"]62[/TD] [TD="align: center"]4[/TD] Blackthorne's Spurs Set Boots [TD="align: center"]63[/TD] Jar of Souls reward [TD="align: center"]429[/TD] [TD="align: center"]3[/TD] Tzo Krin's Gaze Leg. Spirit Stone [TD="align: center"]61[/TD] yellow elite [TD="align: center"]429[/TD] [TD="align: center"]3[/TD] The Undisputed Champion Leg. Mighty Belt [TD="align: center"]29[/TD] treasure goblin [TD="align: center"]54[/TD] [TD="align: center"]4[/TD] Monster Hunter Leg. 1-H Sword [TD="align: center"]24[/TD] champion pack [TD="align: center"]48[/TD] [TD="align: center"]4[/TD] Born's Defiance Set Blacksmith Plans [TD="align: center"]23[/TD] white chest [TD="align: center"]39[/TD] [TD="align: center"]3[/TD] [/TABLE]

    I definitely had some unusual finds, especially getting a set item from the Jar of Souls. The big surprise was finding the plans for Born's Defiance - this was the first time I found any of the Legendary/Set plans, but it was such a random drop (clicked on a white chest in Kulle's Archives) that was extremely unexpected. Most likely it will be the only time I ever find one of these (unless Blizzard drastically changes the drop rates for them). Stupidly, I rushed back to town to give them to my blacksmith, instead of checking on the value in AH for selling the plans. At least I now have access to some decent low level chest armor/shoulder crafting for other HC characters...though the sword looks to be pretty crappy for its level.

    Good hunting! =^-^=
  13. bluedragon

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    it is more like the drop rate has been nerfed on EU since I'am also not getting many legendaries in my runs in past 3 days also although I'am still doing the same long runs with same character(4 runs no legs,one run with 2 at start then nothing)
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    I'm strongly skeptical of any "hot fix better/worse drop rate" claims, since anyone's individual RNG has such variability. I haven't played any Monk for a few days, but last week I was finding more legs than almost ever before with that char; pulling in 1 or 2 almost every game, and I was doing fairly short keyrun type games on MP4 or MP5 with 475% MF. I found 7 legs in 3 key runs, playing maybe 45m in total time, but could just as easily have found zero in those same number of games.

    For example, I'm on something like a 4/24 streak in finding demonic organs from Ubers, with all games on MP4 or MP5. That few from so many games is under 10% probability, but indicates really bad luck, rather than some secret game change.
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    I was just joking,didn't mean to anger you Flux.I know it's bad luck,had a lot of that before.
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    I've had a quick look at this thread and, as someone with a background on statistics, I am somewhat skeptical that the approach suggested can yield meaningful results. Here's how I would do it:

    1. At the start of your favorite run, check your monster kill count.

    2. Do the run and for each leg, fill in:
    monster type, mf, MP, item lvl, item type(optional)

    3. Check monster kill count at the end.

    The idea is to get a ratio on leg drops per number of monsters killed. Some data cross-checks could then be performed to find the distribution functions, i.e. probLegDrop as function of mf and item lvl.

    Fine-tuning for monster type could be acheived if you keep track of number of elites found in run, and type. But that might be too troublesome. Fine-tuning for MP is in principle easier, since you can factor out probabilities of extra drops, etc.
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    A really rigorous tabulation would be awesome, but short of someone writing a program that tallied kills, items found, MF, etc, I don't see it happening. And even then without access to the actual game engine and RNG calculator, it would only give us observation

    This thread was meant just to get a handle on the overall drop rates and frequency of items, and it's been useful for that. Partially since it got me to research the items and to count up the actual number of legendary/set helms, belts, pants, etc. So now everyone knows they're not just getting unlucky when they find 1 Mempo per ever 30 total legendary helms dropped, etc.

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