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  1. Zoi

    Zoi IncGamers Member

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    I sometimes (rather often, even) find myself pondering: Is this item I just found worth saving – is it useful somehow?

    As this is unrelated to actual trade value of an item as well as Battle.Net region, I found it more than fitting to post it here, and will be sure to return to this thread for more advice to come. Please feel free to pose similar questions as well!
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    Zoi IncGamers Member

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    Exhibit 1:

    2 socket Diadem.
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    Valuable is a word that some people have a hard time grasping.
    Try replace it with useful.

    How could a 2os Diadem be useful?

    On top of my head, I can think of 1 thing. Thats a runeword. (Since 3os helmets are better for gems/jwls)
    Lore perhaps?

    Then we speak of Lore.
    Arent 2os helmets, along with Lore itself. Early game? Isnt 2os helmets also kind of common in the early game?

    Is there an endgame runeword for 2os helmets? Nope.

    Then Id assume its worth something for someone doing Lore, but the catch is.. Diadems has a lvl 64 req. so I doubt anyone will use it at that high lvl.

    Conclusion, not worth anything.
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    Zoi IncGamers Member

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    I agree with that thought. Thanks for the assessment as well!

    Exhibit 2: Cryptic Axe (normal "white").

    In particular, I'm wondering whether there is a point in giving sockets to the item using the Cube. If I understand things correctly, there is a 1/6 chance for 1-4 sockets respectively, and a 2/6 chance for 5 sockets. Is there really much of a point in anything except an Insight, which is only a 1/6 shot anyway?
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    Personally I rarely make insight in non eth Polearms.
    But if I cant find an eth one.. Its still easy enough to find a 4os Pole without having to cube it.

    Even with 4os a normal CA isnt worth anything really. Unless you find someone in need of it due to a rarer charbuild etc.


    Short answer. Non eth Poles are hardly worth any thought at all.
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    Zoi IncGamers Member

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    Do ethereal items classify as "low quality" or "normal quality" by the way? In extension: Can I use the cube recipe on ethereal items?
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    Yes you can!
    Afaik, they can be used in the same cube recipes, as the normal quality items.

    Fyi, cubing an armor that is ethereal. Ebugs it. (Unless you knew that already ofc! ;) )
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    If an item is just plain ethereal, you can use the cube socekting recipe to add sockets.

    If it is a rare item that just happens to be ethereal and you decide to reroll it, it will lose its etherealness.
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    I really should know that by heart at this point Archone, but I keep forgetting the details... haha!

    So ethereal is to be considered an item mod rather than item quality then? Although that doesn't make sense either since it carries over through transmutation. I guess it's neither one then. I'm a bit confused as to the laws of D2-physics to be honest.

    Thanks for the help guys!
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    3 Socket Diadem. Same **** or other ****?
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    Are used for Dream sometimes. Still no ed% on it, makes it kinda hard to trade. But not worthless.
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    What's the point of Dream? It looks really *** to me I must say.
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    The lvl15 Holy shock aura. It even stacks with the other item (shield/helmet runeword) for a lvl 30 aura.

    There are a few builds around double Dream.

    1. Max Lightmastery Sorceress.
    With a melee attack, alternatively a Bear sorc.

    2. Conviction Paladin, with maxed synergies for Holy Shock. (But no points in the skill itself)
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    This may have been asked before, but:

    Can I upgrade ethereal normal version weapons and armor to exceptional and elite quality, or does this only work on rares and uniques?
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    Only works for rare and unique.


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    Zoi IncGamers Member

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    The answer to that question always jumps up and kicks you squa' in the nutts.

    : (

    Thanks!
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    I have some tricky rares here. Wondering if they have trade value or not.

    Rare vortex orb: 2 sorc skills, 3 lightning mastery, 13 ene, 75 mana. I'm guessing eschuta's would easily beat this?

    jewel 1: req lev 37, 27% ed, 6 min dam, 1-38 lit dam.

    jewel 2: req lev 49, 6 min dam, 21-44 fire dam, 1-22 lit dam.

    amulet: req lev 30, 2 to shapeshifting skills, 22 life, 79 mana, 12 all res, dam red by 2, holy bolt charges.

    Also, is 28 def (+str or dex mod) or 25 ar alone on small charms valuable to anyone?
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    Those are a lot easier to me than mine – quite possibly due to the fact I feel like I know them.

    1. Cash4Gold
    2. Not worthless but not particularly valuable either. Compare with 40 ED magic jewel with suffix.
    3. Closer to worthless but not quite.
    4. Closer to worthless but not quite.
    5. Yes (def with mod).
    6. No (25 without mod).

    Personally I would save two of them.
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    I dont see any value in the items you display, stillman.
    They are either not composed of the right affixes, or they are just not popular or high enough.
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    Thanks. I've id'd so much stuff that it affects my brain with wishful thinking.

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