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Into The Inferno

Discussion in 'Diablo 3 General Discussion' started by JaMonk, Apr 5, 2012. | Replies: 26 | Views: 1606

  1. JaMonk

    JaMonk IncGamers Member

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    Into The Inferno

    So. "Brutally, brutally, hard" eh? We shall see....

    With the recent news that Inferno difficulty is a gradual ramp in difficulty, apparently culminating with "brutally hard," what can we realistically expect?

    Bashiok said that the later acts (III & IV) will be for the most elite players only. He even claimed that hardcore players may take months to get through each act.

    Frankly, I highly doubt this. Of course Flux and all the rest of us hardcore gamers are hopeful at the mention of such brutal difficulty, but is it realistic to think that it will take months? With a pack of 4 characters at level 60 playing strategically and powerfully together, I am sure that a dedicated team like this could take out one Act in a day or two.

    I would love it to be as brutal as claimed, but can we really feel safe in expecting this?

    Your move, Blizzard.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    Well... im a bit afraid about this too. But lets think a bit.
    What with nightmare? It have to be hard. Its nightmare. Hard, but ofcourse not for hardcore players and blablabla. Then.. what about hell? It have to be really hard. Its 2 levels above normal! U Cant beat Hell with normal-gear, just trying to rush forward. It may work on normal ( but not always to be honest, even in beta ) But not on hell. And then.. we have inferno. They talk a lot about how hard it is. I Belive them. This is blizzard, they never lay down people that trust in them. No matter how long it takes.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    It's also possible someone finds an exploit, OP skills, items or combination of these that trivialises content. And then manages to complete Inferno before Blizzard can rectify the issue.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    Yes, hacks and such are very possible. I wonder if Blizzard will have some sort of thing where we can see how far the farthest person has progressed so far? That would be really neat. I'm sure it won't happen though.



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    Re: Into The Inferno

    i feel that the RMAH will be the main reason bliz will fight hacks and exploits. of course it could go the other way and they dont care if a small percentage of people are doing it as long as everyone keeps buying


    as for the topic at hand, i have a feeling the game will be hard at launch and get easier as people complain they cant advance fast enough in inferno. it is in the best interest of bliz though to make inferno super hard, the harder the better. the fewer people who can farm act 4 hell only means more buyers in the AH. so being said maybe they wont make it easier. let people buy their way into act 4 inferno. i figure if 10% can do act 4 inferno then that leaves a lot of potential buyers
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    If WoW's HM is any indication then I think it can be that hard but I am not sure if it will stay hard for long or not.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    I hope it's not as difficult as they are making it out to be, however, I wouldn't doubt it if it comes out like that.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    I'm kinda meh about difficulty in these types of games because it doesn't mean it'll demand more skill or strategy, just better gear. So the harder it is it just means you'll have to grind longer for items to pass the gear check.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    WoW used to be known for how brutally hard it was. There is hope. But I wouldn't count on it being hard forever, they'll probably nerf it.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    If they've simply upped the gear and dps requirement through the roof no amount of skill and coordination can make up for that. It seems they expect us to farm for gear about a month until even with good group play characters will be able to survive.

    If this is correct, AH will still facilitate bypassing the gear threshold somewhat to start working on Inferno earlier than most. But will the exceedingly high price asked for first wave of good items be worth it?
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    eventually you have to nerf it to keep people around.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    That's not the case here in the same way as it is in WoW. In Diablo good enough gear won't be salvaged, instead it will be sold on and remain in circulation, dropping in price gradually as more powerful items are found to the top of the heap.

    Also isn't it counterproductive to nerf it in order to keep people around, then there would be nothing left for them. Hard inferno stays as a goal that looms over the horizon until you find yourself powerful enough to take the first step and dive in.

    It's not like there are story elements that one can only experience by killing Diablo at Inferno. We've seen that 3 times already by that point. Completely different than in the other game.


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    Re: Into The Inferno

    Interesting..
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    pretty much. developers aren't games with open systems to sell endless products for nothing.

    i agree. Blizz is rolling out the red carpet from normal to early inferno instead of shutting most players out. Blizz doesn't want them dropping the game after normal. blizz wants players to play all the way into inferno. they need them to buy endless products.


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    Re: Into The Inferno

    I just have a feeling that if anything, Inferno is going to get buffed in difficulty :p.

    I know Blizzard's said that it is face-meltingly hard, but I'm sure that there are going to be all sorts of hardcore crazies populating it in no time :p.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    Utter marketing BS. What designer hasn't made a similar claim only to be proven wrong in days? The only way someone won't figure out a super quick method is if it isn't possible at release (which is very possible from blizz, given how incomplete wow expansions tend to be on release day).

    To this effect, I take the rest of what he says as the same. Maybe I'm reading between the lines here, but I see this is a hint at Inferno slowly being 'nerfed', in that the drop rates in other areas will become closer and closer and/or the curve between 61 and 65 being next to nothing. As he says himself, people get bored from being unable to progress/progress too quickly, and I'm seeing them looking at their target demographic (mouth breathing idiots of the mass public) and deeming that they will cap quickly in their relatively easy game, then get pushed through to inferno by means of small nerfs at 1-2month intervals, ala wow.

    Add on a trickle of content updates and changing/nerfing of old items / increasing their drop rates and you'll have a game that is simply too easy for anyone even half-devoted to the game, led on by the mini updates, not by actual difficulty.

    The cutesy comment at the end even further strengthens it, the classic "challenge" marketing tactic. "Oooh do you dare try to beat the last boss? I dare you!".

    Just my semi-related to the OP 2cents.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    I think a lot of people have it wrong. Blizzard makes wow easier because people pay money for it and progression keeps them playing and in turn, paying. Diablo 3 doesn't hav that issue.

    I feel the game will be as hard as they say and stay that way.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    I still don't understand what is so great about WoW
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    It's in Blizzard's interest to keep Inferno hard so you have to buy items to beat it.

    Didn't one of the D2 developers say that Hell mode would only be possible in groups or something wild like that? Heh.
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    Re: Into The Inferno

    I used to think that HM 25 man Lich king would be a breeze in WoW. Turned out it wasn't.

    I think Blizzard has pretty clear concept of what hard means. I don't think that all this talk would be just hot air.

    Of course genres are different and challenge will be formed from different elements, but i don't think inferno will be a letdown.

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