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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by LuckyMe, Aug 14, 2008. | Replies: 20 | Views: 839

  1. LuckyMe

    LuckyMe IncGamers Member

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    Internet Question

    Just have a quick question for all the tech-savy folks out there. I'm moving into my apartment with my 4 roommates (5 total) and we need to get internet. We're going to get a wireless router so that our laptops can pick it up within the apartment, and password protect it just for us.

    My question is what should I expect from my ISP so that the internet isn't noticibly slow. Would it make more sense to get 2 lite connections (with double modem/router price) or to get the 1 extreme connection (which might be questionable)

    I'm in Waterloo Canada using Rogers.

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
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    P2blr IncGamers Member

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    Re: Internet Question

    going to Laurier or UW?
    wanna hang out? :badteeth:

    why do you think that an extreme connection would be questionable?

    I'd suggest either whichever combo has the greatest bandwidth total, or if it's close just go with the extreme pack from them.
    I wonder how you'd do it because most routers only have a single WAN port; unless you'd have a number of laptops only on one and a number only on the other I'd suggest the extreme speed, there will be enough electromagnetic waves flying through the air without throwing another wireless access point into the mix
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    I'd go with just one router and tell your roommates not to suck up all the bandwidth with torrents and large downloads.
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    I've lived in 2 houses that had 5 guys in each. A few of us were heavy d/lers too and it all worked out fine with one good connection. Just tell the other people to limit their d/ls or else it can screw the rest of the people over, especially those playing games online.
     
  5. LuckyMe

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    Re: Internet Question

    Okay so I was looking at prices and stuff and there are basically 2 companies I would go with:

    Rogers - Extreme connection (10 Mbps, 95 GB Monthly Usage Allowance & 9 emails) $55/month
    Express (7Mbps, 60 GB Monthly allowance) $45/month

    If the 7Mbps is good for 5 people (plus an xbox) then I think I will go with that. Does anyone know if that would be enough



    Oh and I'm 2nd yr laurier.
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    is 95GB a usual upper bound or is there an unlimited one?

    I'm mostly just wondering if my parents had to foot a rather large bill for internet when I went to visit for a month.

    Also, with 5 guys check to see what they charge for going over because you can assume it will happen at some point, and probably not by a little.
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    Upperbounds are evil.

    I can hardly share my 250gig with my brother when I'm at my parents place =/
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    We have very strict download caps here. My current connection is like 7Gb on-peak and 14Gb off. I really should go ISP shopping again.
     
  9. Herald of Doom

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    Re: Internet Question

    It's only Dutchies who could say that about 250GB :crazyeyes:

    As for those two providers, I would take the Rogers. 10$ for 35GB and 3Mbs is definately worth it. Unless ofcourse you all download very little. I take about 15GB of our limit of 25GB a month, my sister about 5GB and my dad about 3GB.



     
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    I've never heard of a download limit from an ISP before.


    Meahwile you should establish rules that torrent and other heavy downloading should be done at night and not at day. That would save you all alot of greif.
     
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    Well, some ISP may be secretly limiting that too. Comcast, my ISP, was apparently blocking some torrent site traffic or something like that creating a huge ruckus.


     
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    Re: Internet Question

    Now that's a soft argument if I ever saw one. Besides if they are prevent torrent downloads completely then it's not an issue anyway. So my point is still valid.



     
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    Re: Internet Question

    AFAIK you can set the ports the torrent uses? How can they block that?
    Blocking sites? Use a proxy. :)
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    Well, some links to Comcast. Now they are confirmed to have done this. Other ISPs again might be doing it, but people are trying to find out

    Link
    Link

    I must say that I have noticed the slower speed. It is extremely noticeable and I, at first, just thought that there was something wrong with the physical cables in my house, but was too lazy to do anything about it. (at first, there were loads of problems with them and I had to get Comcast to fix alot of them)
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    They detect if the p2p protocol is being used by deep packet sniffing. Then they add additional reset packets in the connection, which makes your pc and the other pc think the other one is trying to break the connection. This makes downloads extremely slow. It's done using Sandvine, and they were convicted for it. I'm not sure proxies are enough to avoid it, VPN definately is. They're considering different solutions to make sure everyone can use their broadband at decent speeds because the FCC made clear this violates net neutrality.



     
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    Re: Internet Question

    Okay thanks for the help/advice. I will give both companies a call this weekend to get it all set up.
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    so what? no hanging out?
    poo.
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    yeah, sure, that'll happen..



     
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    Re: Internet Question

    Another thing that I've noticed lately with Comcast:

    When I have torrents being downloaded, I can't do anything else online. It gets extremely slow just trying to browse the web and I don't even bother to do any MPing
     
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    Re: Internet Question

    This is your problem. Do your best not to support Rogers or Bell.

    I'd suggest acanac, teksavvy, or inter.net. Yes they are all Bell resellers but it's still beats supporting Bell or Rogers directly. None of these companies throttle p2p traffic and have reasonable or no bandwith limits.



     

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