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How to kill uber Mephisto?

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  1. Cursing

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    How to kill uber Mephisto?

    Hi guys. I am visiting this sites for about an year, and found very much useful info for amazones, however I stuck with 1 question, that cannot find here, thats why I decided to register and ask you, hope you help me :)

    I made bowazon for Uber tristam challenge. Currently I am able to kill all bosses in solo exept uber Meph.

    specs:

    ama 87lvl

    skills:
    strafe - 20
    GA - 20
    critical - 20
    penetrate - 20
    pierce - 1
    valkir -1
    avoid/evaid/dodge - 5

    stats:
    no vita
    no energy
    20 to str to equip forty
    all in dex ~ 500-520

    equip:
    bow - wrath MB and windforce
    armor - fortitude arhon plate
    helm - guliame face +jewel 15ias
    gloves - LoH / knockback +20ias craft
    belt - nosferatu
    boots - gore riders
    amul - highlord wrath
    rings - raven frost / lleech dex alres

    charms:
    anih + torch
    3 GC - 10max dmg +70ar
    10 sc 175poisn dmg +res/hp/frw
    rest - sc fire/ligth resists

    finally I have: 50fire res/10cold res/80light res/70 poisn res

    my merc:
    2 act might aura
    helm - andariel
    armor - shaftstop + UM
    weap: eth tresher obedience

    stats screen with wrath shows:
    3900 - GA dmg
    2900 - strafe dmg
    atack rating after prebuff ~ 28000

    ok I go:

    prebuff:

    I have 53lvl bo barb and 54lvl enchant sorc. I created game and lead them into, I prebuff bo and ench on ama, merc and valkiry, after eqipping my valk 10lvl. , after prebuff, they are out from the game. it needs for 1ppl game.
    finally my life is about 1.2k, merc 6k life.

    1. izual - this is very easy, the bow - wrath, izual always under decripify curse, my merc and valkir hold him. izual dies in 30-40secs.

    2. duriel - the same as izual, very easy. just about 40-50 secs with wrath.

    3. lilith - I want to say that it is the most difficult boss among 3. equip the same with Wrath MB. firstly I killed all mobs near lilith so my strafe hits only Lilith with all arrows. her poisn dmg and melee atack are very strong. my valk dies after 1 hit. so you need to be very attentive, my merc holds 3 melee hits of andy, the key here is cast decripify from wrath, If my merc come to llilth under decr course then he establish stands and I from distance do strafe, I need to give my merc full rej pots every 15-20seconds, otherwise he dies. so lilith dies in 80-90 secs if my merc holds Her. but if merc come to her not under decr. curse she can kill him in 1-2 hits+poisn dmg. so I had to resuret merc several times.

    Uber trist:

    fisrtly I entered into TP and separates all bosses on the map, so not to face 2 or 3 at the same time, also I precast Fade from trachery for resists.

    1. diablo: I changed wrath with windforce, because wrath overrides lifetap with decr. and put on switch wand with life tap charges. Life tap is more useful than decripfy here. also I changed gloves from craft to LoH

    The key here is cast life tap and then using GA lock on diablo, strafe is useless here because it hits minions more than Diablo, I cast life tap and lock GA on Diablo, the fight was about 2-3 minutes, and I killed him, I recast valk and decoy so it put out minoins from diablo and me so I can hit him directly.

    2. baal: more easier than diablo, he does no summons anythingm and I was able to kill him even using Wrath. I used strafe here.

    So Finally Uber Meph, it is so dificult, my merc dies in seconds an his summons messed me, he is very fast, and I cannot stop him in distanse, even casting life tap on him does not help, so I still cannot find a key to him.

    I need your assistanse here, may be I need to change equip fro him, I heard about face of horror, but not tested it yet.
    I know that I need to rise much my resists.
    But I need strategy against him and might be I need to put more stats in life or put skills in valkiry, or prebuff 50+lvl valkiry maybe, so any thought and criticism are welcome
  2. crawlingdeadman

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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    what i thought worked best on him was:
    1) get rid of minions with strafe + monsters flee. i'd also go with razortail so that you can reach the monsters in the back of a crowd with the flee.
    2) use life tap as the curse of choice. i picked dracs, but i hear that marrow walks work well and the bone prison can help too (though i have my doubts about prison lasting very long).
    3) fast hitting merc that casts life tap. for this i went with act 5 barb using last wish. i dumped resist items on him to help.
    4) all else fails, have your resists capped out after conviction too and try to tank him with life tap up constantly. i'd also suggest using GA. since it doesnt rely on AR, it's much like smite.
    5) dont make her a dex zon. i'd almost suggest going full vit or at least a mix. i'd also suggest if you're thinking you may have to tank to avoid getting D/A/E since they keep you from attacking and that can get you killed.

    to help with 1 and 4, i pick a silence crusader bow. it has low(ish) damage, but it has many of the mods you need. i'd also squeeze crushing blow on somewhere. when i was contemplating a retry of trist i was thinking for meph i'd go with a kit like this:

    ~ias helm or res helm, whichever was most needed (knock back may be good to get here)
    ~highlords (res/ias), metal grid (more res/ar, but only if you hit a good ias break)
    ~silence crusader (it has monsers flee and blind which wont overwrite on tap on a boss, mana leech, some ias, and big big res)
    ~coh (or if my res was covered, duress)
    ~dracs
    ~raven
    ~razortail
    ~good rare ring covering holes like AR, Res, etc
    ~gores or goblin toes

    you still need AR to hit the non bosses (GA those) so good ar charms, and resist charms to make up what you lack.

    act 5 merc:
    ~arreat, kiras, ias helm
    ~last wish phase blade
    ~treachery

    the idea behind this gear selection was much like a smiter, use an AR independent skill to apply crushing blow fast at the same time as you're getting full benefit for life tap. the zon also builds in crowd control and tries to do everything from a decent range. i'm sure that there's a way to do this toe to toe, but i dont know if that's wise. there are a few tankazon guides around the net.
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2010
  3. Cursing

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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    crawlingdeadman, thank you very much for the feedback.

    ok, I will try to up new zon, with dex/vita combo.

    1) as far as I understand you do strafe to flee minions firstly, right? once they out you do GA on meph?

    2) I am thinking now about dracs, it would be better to have chance to cast life-tap than switching to wand and cast charges.

    3) 5act merc and as a lastwish is not possible for me, I am playing on a server 1.12 version. there is no lastwish on the whole server even. I was rushing Hell Forge for 1-1.5 months to get Ber rune from 32 guls. to make Wrath. If you take a look at lastwish, you will see - it is - 3 Jah, It is absolutely unachievable for me, 1 Jah ~ 2-3 months of HF rushing. so very expansive in this case. I am looking at 2act merc with holyfreeze aura, with obidence for Crushing blow.

    4) I am going to full my inventory with resistance charms to cover meph conviction.

    5) I've got this point, will try combo. but as for D/A/E , if you rise up valkiry - then you need to put 1 skill in D/A/E , Are you suggesting not to go with valkiry?

    Let's discuss silence, are you really tested it in tristram? is it realy worth there?

    actually, interesting bow, BUT it can be done only in slowest bows (10 - base speed) so if you will equip highlord 20ias + gaint skull 2*15 ias jewels
    +nosferatu 10ias = 80ias total - it is only 10frame GA speed on that bow - I would say - very slow. You need to flee monions fast and do damage to meph and proc crushing blow fast.
    Coh - is not acceptable for me as well, it needs Ber.

    Can you confirm that for killing meph "hit monster to flee" - is MUST? if so, then what do you think about this equip:

    ~faith MB
    ~fortitude
    ~highlords
    ~Face of Horror +15ias jewel
    ~dracs
    ~raven
    ~good rare ring
    ~gores
    ~nosferatus

    in this case we will have:

    max strafe speed
    max GA speed
    50% hit monster to flee
    5% Chance To Cast Life Tap
    15% crushing blow
    45% deadly strike
    70% critical strike
    40% open wounds
    50%+ pierce (put some skills into pierce)

    more fast bow we gave = more frequently effects above will be applied.

    What do you think about this?
  4. Cursing

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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    by the way, what do you think about Passion Bow ?

    Passion

    4 Socket Weapons Dol + Ort + Eld + Lem

    +25% Increased Attack Speed
    +160-210% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    50-80% Bonus To Attack Rating (varies)
    +75% Damage To Undead
    +50 To Attack Rating Against Undead
    Adds 1-50 Lightning Damage
    +1 To Berserk
    +1 To Zeal
    Hit Blinds Target +10
    Hit Causes Monster To Flee 25%
    75% Extra Gold From Monsters
    Level 3 Heart of Wolverine (12 Charges)


    Passion Bow includes Hit Blinds Target and Hit Causes Monster To Flee and 25ias, so we can equip this:

    ~passion MB (-10 base speed)
    ~fortitude
    ~highlords
    ~Gaint skull with 2 ias jewels
    ~dracs
    ~raven
    ~good rare ring
    ~gores
    ~razortail

    and still we wil have:

    max strafe speed
    8frame GA speed
    25% hit monster to flee
    5% Chance To Cast Life Tap
    25% crushing blow
    45% deadly strike
    70% critical strike
    40% open wounds
    65%+ pierce (razor +skills )
    knockback

    this option is more preferable for me and does no require Faith which I cannot accept in the nearest time, because it requires Jah :(
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    Maybe you are strictly bows only? Otherwise should go easy with CS? Very easy to reach 50-80k/s damage, and SS with Ptopaz kicks ***. offcourse he has tons of resists but -res can handle that i imagine. Or just jab him down with cb and life tap
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    Charged strike and as Lighting damage does nothing to Meph because he is light immune, infinty will not work on him because meph conva is higher lvl. 110 res also cannot be broken by low resist course from necro wand.

    As for Jab zone, it is another option, here I want to beat Meph using Bow only!
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    finally I have: 50fire res/10cold res/80light res/70 poisn res

    pretty sure you are never gonna beat meph with resists like those and only source of lifetap is a wand

    prebuffing fade from the treachery runeword armor and switching to dracs would be a good place to start
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    yeah I already going to stack enough resists for conva, fade prebuff I do every time ;)
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    any other ideas?
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    I am back guys.

    Finally I have done Uber Trist in solo with my bowazon. As you can see in my first post It took to me for about 2 weeks to find a key to uber meph.
    It was very funny, I tried wrath, passion, windforce bows(not tried faith yet), but I could not kill meph even if I stack resists and prebuff fade, Meph killed me any way very fast.
    It was continuing for a long time, until I decided to try harmony bow, just for fun, but how I was surprised when I killed andariel very easy with harmony. Then I opened Tristam, summoned Urdars from river of flame and killed all ubers 1 by 1.
    It was very interesting but I killed Mephisto faster than others 2 ubers. The trick is what My Urdars surrounded him and I was able to shoot Meph from long distance so his conviction aura does not get me. I strafed him very easy, actually his summons were focusing on my urdars, but just few of them were spawning near me, but I killed them fast enough.

    I will make a video next time i collect keys set.
    below is my equip for UT:

    Bow - Harmony MB 3bows 9ED
    armor - fortitude
    helm - guliame face + 15ias jewel / tiara with teleport charges for focusing urdars.
    belt - nosferatu
    boots - gore rider
    gloves - LoH / draculs( dracs - only for meph)
    amul - highlord
    ring1 - raven frost
    ring2 - craft 100ar 6lleech str hp mana

    my inventory:
    anih +torch
    3 GC: 10maxdmg +ar
    sc: resists /max dmg/ar / 175poisn dmg
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    just forgot about my stats screen:

    str - 130
    dex - 512
    vita - 73
    enrg - 54

    life - 800
    mana - 340

    GA - 1701-3544
    strafe - 1278-2666

    strafe AR - 12010

    Resists:
    fire - 69
    cold - 9
    light - 80
    poisn - -3
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    Grats, don't think I've heard of another bowazon completing trist by herself.

    I'm still interested in a way to to kill him without summons though.
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    without summons that will stand him on long distance, it is very difficult. Because merc and valkir die from meph conviction very fast.
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    Hi guys, I am back.

    So I finally did what I wanted. I killed all ubers without summons/revives help.
    So the main problem as I stated was uber meph. however I killed them all not changing my equip:
    Faith MB 2/12
    forti
    gaint skull + 2 jewels ias +ed
    razortail
    gore-riders
    craft gloves 10crushing blow 20ias ++
    amul - atma's
    rings - ravenfrost +craft ar/dmg res +

    invent:
    torch+ anih
    4gc: dmg +ar +hp
    sc: resists+hp / alresist / dmg +ar / pdmg

    so the key to killin meph is merc.

    to cover meph conva i gived the following to merc:
    kira tiara +um 80alres
    smoke - 50alres
    obidence - 30 alres

    so merc stands meph ann ama shooting meph from distance, under amplify curse meph dies very fast, I used just 3 rej pots for killing him.
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?


    Wont the torch dc you if you get to many proccs to fast anymore?


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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    sorry, do you mean firestorm proccs?
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    firestorm yah, :) the only thing a torch can procc.


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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    mine have 5% chance to cast, that's why it is not a problem ;)
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?

    It used to be 25% ctc and with a skill like strafe it was going off way too much.
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    Re: How to kill uber Mephisto?


    Myah, even with 5% I can get my pala to DC during zeal-bashing.
    Its pretty much lower, but having a strafer go haywire on a big pack of mobs will prob dc me again :<
    But on ubers thats probably not an issue.


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