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Grief or BotD For WW Fury Druid

Discussion in 'Druid' started by AndrewTheGreat, Mar 3, 2006. | Replies: 39 | Views: 2835

  1. AndrewTheGreat

    AndrewTheGreat IncGamers Member

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    Grief or BotD For WW Fury Druid

    hi guys, like the title says, should I use a Grief or BotD for my WW Fury Druid. He is PvM as well. Any suggestions would be great. :thumbsup:
     
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    Botd would be good for pvm because of the leech. Grief for pvp because it has more avg dmg.
     
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    Botd=hihger range
    Grief=more damage
     
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    Awsome, thanks for the input guy. Also, would you recommend HoW or Oak? I'm leaning towards HoW.
     
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    nope, oak better in every way. Name 5 skill ways you can get A. More enhanced damage. B. More life

    A. Might Aura(from mercs)
    Decriptify(reapers toll)
    HOW
    Concentration from Pride Merc
    Fanat from beast/rogue faith merc
    B. BO
    Oak Sage
    Lycan
    Wups no more...
     
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    Ferro, what do you mean by higher range? If you mean damage range you're totaly off. The crappiest grief will give more damage then the best botd.
     
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    I think he means an EBOTD made into a Berserker Axe which has a range of 3 vs. a Grief Phase Blade which has a range of 2.
     
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    botd hands down (EbotdZ)
    .. sure everyone knows Grief has nice dmg and all.. but it doesnt:
    1) Dual Leech :D (enough said pvm wise)
    2) 30+stat boost.. which basically is saying 60+vit for your build..= 120hp.. = a lot more when lyc :D

    EbotdZ obviously destroys Grief.. even tho grief has the higher average dmg..bt whats dmg if you cant survive long enought to hit them.. ..

    cheeers
    PpZ
     
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    I think I shall clarify this little misconception because apparently simple math is beyond some people.

    Berserker Axe: 24-71 damage.
    Etheral Berserker Axe: 36-106.5

    +400 damage grief zerker does 424-471 base damage
    +415% ebotdz zerker does 185-548 damage

    Now, the conclusions the unknowledgeable would draw from this is that a Perfect grief berserker axe has a better damage range, but a perfect ebotdz has a better max damage. This is of course true by itself. Now lets add off weapon enhanced damage. Lets say from a fortitude armor (because this is what you'll most likely be using on a melee charecter).

    Grief: 424 + 300% = 1696 471 + 300% = 1884
    1696-1884 damage
    Ebotdz: 36 + 715% = 293.4 106.5 + 715% = 868
    293 - 868 damage
    Conclusion: The maximum damage on a perfect ebotdz is slightly higher then half the minimum damage on a grief weapon. This is of course, ignoring the other exceptional mods on both weapons but for outright damage, nothing beats grief. Ever.
     
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    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.


    PvP is more than point and click guys - If you don't know that then you don't know much, even if you are talking melee.
     
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    Personaly, I can't imagine any melee charecter not using grief. The damage is just so high it makes up for everything else.
     
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     
  20. SicHalo

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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD
     

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