Latest Diablo 3 News
DiabloWiki Updates
Support the site! Become a Diablo: IncGamers PAL - Remove ads and more!

D2 vs D3

Discussion in 'Diablo 2 Community Forum' started by kmathieson, Mar 31, 2012. | Replies: 34 | Views: 4259

  1. kmathieson

    kmathieson IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2008
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    D2 vs D3

    Hi all,

    Just thought I'd encourage a little debate about D2/D3. Haven't been able to test D3 out, but have a few friends who have. General feelings are mixed... probably 60/40 in favour of D3...

    Any thoughts as to which is better?

    K.
  2. TurbulentTurtle

    TurbulentTurtle IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2003
    Messages:
    10,413
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Re: D2 vs D3

    D3 because it's new, D2 because of nostalgia.
  3. kmathieson

    kmathieson IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2008
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Re: D2 vs D3

    Probably agree with TT..........

    Anyone actually going to stick to D2 or is everyone off to D3?
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2012
  4. Banglafish

    Banglafish IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2012
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    20
    Re: D2 vs D3

    I heard that Matt Uelman(the genius who composed the music for Diablo 1 and 2 LOD, in case if you didn't know) is gone, and about half of the original staff who've done work on the first 2 games are gone as well. So I seriously can't really imagine Diablo 3 being nearly as good as Diablo 2 LOD with these people being gone. It'll be a good game, because Blizzard just never makes bad games, that I agree with. But, it'll never be able to compare to the legendary Diablo 2 LOD.
  5. zaphodbrx

    zaphodbrx IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2011
    Messages:
    3,714
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    467
    Re: D2 vs D3

    And you need to be online at all times, even for single player, and Blizzard can ban you for any reason they like.
    GG no re. Sorry I'm not buying this nonsense.
  6. kmathieson

    kmathieson IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2008
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Re: D2 vs D3

    Was reading into it a lot at work today (work quiet as well)... find it interesting that some sets still have the same names... lack of cerebral input there... Also, I know D2 is all about item finding and MF... as is D3 to an extent... but I do like the fact that there is still a slight interest end game of occasionally adding the next level on in D2...

    From the screenshots I've seen, D3 also looks sort of cartoonish.... a bit like.. say.. final fantasy... I find that a little off-putting. Does anyone agree with this or have I just not seen enough of it yet?

    Online for me is not so much of an issue... but I agree with zaphodbrx... It would be nice to be able to take single player with you if you are travelling anywhere. I frequently travel from UK to Europe and it's a great travel companion as I'm away for at least a couple of weeks at a time... so it's back to D2 for that anyway.
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2012
  7. Valhauros

    Valhauros IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Messages:
    813
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Re: D2 vs D3

    D1 is better than D2, hands down. Whether it will be be better than D3, is yet to be seen.
  8. Banglafish

    Banglafish IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2012
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    20
    Re: D2 vs D3

    In terms of storyline and atmosphere ,then yes; D1 is x10 times better than D2, but only at that aspect. However, in terms of gameplay and variety, D2 just beats D1 in this aspect. There are many aspects to a game, not only its atmosphere and its storyline.


    Last edited: Apr 2, 2012
  9. Zarniwoop

    Zarniwoop IncGamers Site Pal

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2006
    Messages:
    4,131
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Re: D2 vs D3

    D2 is functionally a better game in my opinion. Please note that I'm not challenging your manhood if you prefer D3, so you don't need to challenge me to an insult duel.

    It basically boils down to this:

    If you prefer world of warcraft in its heyday, you will love D3.

    If you prefer EQ1 in its heyday, you probably prefer D2.

    I loved both games, but I am staggered by all the people that even with the playable beta still swear that D3 will be the deeper game.

    Throw out all the insults you want. It's not a question about which is better in some all-encompassing way. Everyone will have a slightly different answer as to why they prefer one or the other. The VAST majority will probably prefer D3.


    ADDENDUM: The above doesn't mean I think D3 sucks. It doesn't. If nothing else, its rock solid with Blizzards always exceptional production qualities and lack of bugs (compared to everyone else in the industry). I will absolutely play it and enjoy it. But, I'm not about to throw out my D2 cds.
  10. Banglafish

    Banglafish IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2012
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    20
    Re: D2 vs D3

    My god....you're so mature and sensible....I thought that your race has been long gone and extinct from the internet from a long time ago. Seems I was wrong, :).


  11. zemaj

    zemaj IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,849
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    120
    Re: D2 vs D3

    my thoughts on this have been exhaustively pontificated on in other threads, so I leave it at:

    Modern DRM is bull****. Online-only is equally bull****. I will not be purchasing D3.
  12. Xehros

    Xehros IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    137
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Re: D2 vs D3

    Imo D2 will be hard to beat. It was a perfect game with very few flaws although they rectified most of it (like respeccing) later on. Only real main issue with it that was never really addressed was shared bank/stash, and maybe lack of inv space, that's it. The rest of the game is perfection. So I think D3 will be good but won't top D2. Just like I don't think SC2 topped the original SC even though so many aspects were obviously better like the controls were new generation etc.
  13. Noodle

    Noodle <img src="http://forums.diabloii.net/images/pal.gi

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2003
    Messages:
    8,142
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    168
    Re: D2 vs D3

    And Single Player D2 solved for every issue you named.



  14. Xehros

    Xehros IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    137
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Re: D2 vs D3

    And how are they solved in single player? With a 3rd party program? And why you would play single player in D2 when there's online I'll never know (unless where you live there's no internet), but hey, people can play however they like. But the game should be and is (like all blizz games) based around online play at its core.
  15. zaphodbrx

    zaphodbrx IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2011
    Messages:
    3,714
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    467
    Re: D2 vs D3

    Many reasons.
    Firstly, Diablo is a game designed to not be crappy in single player. Like the prince of persia series, single player is a lot of fun.

    There's also some advantages like static maps, no temp bans, usage of previous patch items, etc.

    But the main reason for me is the community. If you don't have any friends who play videogames, or that particular videogame which you play ( which is very common ), you're pretty much stuck playing public type games. And while you can make online friendships and suchlike, they won't always be on at the same time you are, and the vast majority of them are douchebags. I played DOTA for 1 year before discovering D2 single player and that's mostly the reason. In an online game there are always going to be noobs, laggers and retards, and in the case of D2 there's also hackers, dupers and botters. Sorry, I'd rather play whatever I want, whenever I want, and without any nonsensical cheats.


  16. Noodle

    Noodle <img src="http://forums.diabloii.net/images/pal.gi

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2003
    Messages:
    8,142
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    168
    Re: D2 vs D3

    1. No bots.
    2. No lag.
    3. No connection interrupted, realm down, or temp bans.
    4. Unlimited storage with drag and drop transfer of items, through the use of Single Player Forum approved ATMA or GoMule, which also come with embedded item drop probability calculators.
    5. Multiplayer play through TCP/IP.
    6. Ability to simulate additional players in the game through use of the /playersx command.
    7. Ability to keep efficient maps from game to game for much more effective magic finding runs.
    8. Ability to pause the game.

    I switched to SP after the end of the first season of the 1.10 release, and find it's a far superior gameplay experience.



  17. deneb

    deneb IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Re: D2 vs D3

    I have played the D3 beta and It's hard to judge so far, but from what I have played, watched, and read I like D2 better than D3. I will be playing diablo 3, of course, I am confident it will still be pretty good, and on top of that it will be fresh. One thing I am uncertain of in D3 are the builds, which for me, is one of the funnest parts of D2. Go to any class forum here and look at the guides, and look at how many builds there are for each class, it is quite staggering. From what I have seen there isn't anything in Diablo 3 that will match this, maybe the rune system, but I don't know... Sure one could switch around spells and such, but the builds in Diablo 3 seems so... empty. Will we see things like melee/bow sorcs in Diablo 3? I'm talking Unorthodox builds that work, because it seems no matter what skills you choose for a wizard it will always be a spell casting wizard, same with all the other classes, they all feel the same, no matter what skills you choose.

    Not looking forward to the AH or a standard currency, but we'll see how it pans out. Wish there was charms, but we'll see how it pans out. Wish there was a game list, but we'll see how it pans out. Wish there was a better chat like everyone else. I'm going to miss searching for the perfect weapon/armor/shield to put a runeword into and so on.

    It may sound like I just wish it was a Diablo 2, 2. I do for the most part, but I'm looking forward to something a little different, and I am optimistic that things will be ok. Still plan on playing Diablo 2 after I get Diablo 3 though. There could be a lot hiding behind the Diablo 3 beta and I hope there is.
  18. Zarniwoop

    Zarniwoop IncGamers Site Pal

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2006
    Messages:
    4,131
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Re: D2 vs D3

    Diablo 3 is to Diablo 2 as Civ V is to Civ IV

    or if you don't play strategy games...

    Diablo 3 is to Diablo 2 as WoW is to Everquest.


    None of the above has any statement of right or wrong or good or bad. It's just a different approach. It's more accessible versus more depth/difficulty.

    ALL THAT SAID, that's just an opinion formed after playing like 12-13 levels multiple times. But, I feel fairly confident that that appraisal will bear out based on what I've seen.
  19. wrxwagon

    wrxwagon IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Re: D2 vs D3

    After checking out the beta I've come to the conclusion that I will stick with D2 for a little while longer. I just don't see D3 having that lasting appeal, after the "new game" shine wears off and all the new eye candy gets old.
  20. Zionized

    Zionized IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2012
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Re: D2 vs D3

    I have the same general feel. And I'm an EQ hardcore fan. ( still play on an emulated server sometimes )

    I played the D3 BETA this weekend and I was NOT impressed at all. The game is still fluid, but the level up system and the skill system seemed very awkward to me. Every game I joined, people were too busy rushing to group up on anything.


Share This Page