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Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by zaphodbrx, Mar 9, 2012. | Replies: 16 | Views: 1575

  1. zaphodbrx

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    Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Hi guys,

    According to this calculator, The chance of getting a skiller affix is the same for a level 57 GC as for a level 85 gc .

    So why is it said that level 57 gcs have the best chance to get rolled into skillers?
    What are the actual probabilities?
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    No, it isn't. 1:468 vs 1:484.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Rolling 57lvl and 85lvl gcs isnt efficient, you should either roll baal gcs (for the chance of 41+life along with second useful mod), or roll scs.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Yes, I know that. I just wanted to know what the difference was between GCs from level 85 areas and those from NM act 3. Basically, if it is worth farming those areas with high level character. 1:468 vs 1:484 isn't a significant difference at all.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    That's right, but it might be easier and quicker for some people to farm skillers in nightmare than in hell. However, GCs in hell mode can have up to 40 life (and those from Diablo, Nihlathak and Baal up to 45, which is why these are used for cubing) and those in the nightmare Flayer Jungle (level 50 BTW) have a maximum of 30 life. That makes up a significant price difference.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Yes, I know. But if the chance for getting skillers was significantly more for the lower level GCs, I would have gone for it regardless of the fact that they cannot spawn with 'of vita', because for the most part I am happy even with just plain skillers. And I do know about the Diablo/Nihilithak/Baal GCs, but there's only so much of them you can have.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Unless you're buying bulk gems to re-roll, you'll probably get d/n/b charms faster than you get the gems to roll them into something good. You have to roll a GC hundreds of times before it turns out as something worth saving, unless you're very lucky.


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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    1. Why SCs in particular? Are LCs also the worst by far?

    2. Are Dia, Baal, and Thakkitoe the enemies in the game with the high item level? Is yes, why does the Pit/Ancient Tunnels equal this item level?

    3. Which level exactly is this item level: 85?


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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    You should have answered the question yourself :). Just tell what are your "favorite" charms and how many large ones in the list =).
    afaik Baal, Nihlathak and Diablo are level 99, 96 and 95 respectively, GC has to be of level 95 or higher to get "+41..+45 life" mod.
    Regular mobs in level 85 areas have level 85, champions and minions are 87 and uniques are 88 or so. Super uniques (named bosses like nihlathak etc) have their own level.
    item level 85 is exactly 85 item level. If you want to learn more about item generation, read corresponding article in the wiki. The process is rather complicated and unusual but very logical.
    In short, monster level depends on area level (equal, +2 and +3 or something like that). Item level is equal to the monster level. Item affixes depend on item level.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    The levels are 99, 95 and 94 respectively. GC has to be lvl91 or higher to get 41+ life.


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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    So in AT for example, all items in the game can drop, while GCs cannot give +45 life? Are there any other monsters in the entire game that can drop a +45 life GC?
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Only those three, baal diablo and nihlathak.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    So what else (other than +45 life GCs) is there that cannot drop in The Pit/Ancient Tunnels then?
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    You may find any item in the Pits, but not every of them ca be upgraded to unique/set, and not every mod is possible. Im unsure about details.
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Interesting. Do you happen to know which items cannot roll unique/set in AT/TP? Also; where can these items roll unique/set – Only Thak/Dia/Baal?

    Also, does anyone know what mods cannot occur on items in TP/AT, alternatively link me up to where I can find this information?T

    Thanks! :)
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Every item can drop there (and in all L84 or 85 areas), except two: SCs and GC with the very highest affixes. Only Diablo, Nihlathak and Baal can drop these charms.

    Link: http://diablo2.ingame.de/spiel/expansion/itemdb/affix_index.php?lang=en&version=lod&patch=111

    When navigating to the charms, enter 88 into the ilvl field above the list (which is what bosses in L85 areas drop) and you will notice that a few affixes are missing when comparing it with ilvl 99, one of them the 41-45 lifs suffix for GCs, as well as the highest four elemental affixes and (IIRC) +1 maxdmg on SCs (which can combine with max/ar, that's why it's so high).
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    Re: Chance of skiller affixes on GCs

    Cool, thanks guys!

    Have a good evening. :)

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