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    Biblical Inconsistencies

    Biblical Inconsistencies

    Acts and traits of God

    GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
    1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.

    GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.
    NU 23:19-20, IS 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.

    GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
    EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him.

    GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God.
    JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah, together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots.

    LU 18:19, MT 19:17, PS 145:9 God is good
    NU 23:19, MA 3:6 God never changes or repents
    EX 32:14, 1SA 16:23, 1SA 19:9, 2SA 12:11, 2SA 24:16, 1CH 21:15, JO 3:10, JE 18:8, 26:3, 13, 19 - God commits and repents of evil

    GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
    1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
    MT 6:13 Jesus' prayer implies that God might lead us into temptation.
    JA 1:2-3 Temptation is joy.
    JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt)
    JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.

    GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is Israel.
    GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses the name Jacob.

    EX 20:4 God prohibits the making of any graven images whatsoever.
    EX 25:18 God enjoins the making of two graven images.

    EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
    HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry."

    EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the innocent.
    NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26, 8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, 30-39, JG 11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or approves the complete extermination of groups of people which include innocent women and/or children.

    2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 There is no injustice or partiality with the Lord.
    RO 9:15-18 God has mercy on (and hardens the hearts of) whom he pleases.

    EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
    PR 12:22 God abhors lying lips and delights in honesty.
    NU 14:30 God breaks his promise.
    1KI 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of deception.
    2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people, making them believe what is false, so as to be able to condemn them. (Note: some versions use the word persuade here. The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)
    2CH 18:22 God himself causes a lying spirit.
    and similarly with Jesus himself...
    MT 5:37, 15:19, MK 7:22, JN 8:14, 44, 14:6, 18:37 Jesus says that you should answer a plain "yes" or "no," that his purpose is to bear witness to the truth, and that his testimony is true. He equates lying with evil.
    JN 7:2-10 Jesus tells his brothers that he is not going to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Tabernacles, then later goes secretly by himself. (Note: The words "not yet" were added to some versions at JN 7:8 in order to alleviate this problem. The context at JN 7:10 makes the deception clear, however.)

    EX 29:38-42 God requires animal sacrifices
    JE 7:22 God denies having required animal sacrifices

    NU 30:2 God enjoins the making of vows (oaths).
    MT 5:33-37 Jesus forbids doing so, saying that they arise from evil (or the Devil).

    DT 7:9-10 God destroys his enemies.
    MT 5:39-44 Do not resist your enemies. Love them.

    DT 18:20-22 A false prophet is one whose words do not come true. Death is required.
    EZ 14:9 A prophet who is deceived, is deceived by God himself. Death is still required.

    1SA 9:15-17 The Lord tells Samuel that Saul has been chosen to lead the Israelites and will save them from the Philistines.
    1SA 15:35 The Lord is sorry that he has chosen Saul.
    1SA 31:4-7 Saul commits suicide and the Israelites are overrun by the Philistines.

    1KI 8:12, 2CH 6:1, PS 18:11 God dwells in thick darkness.
    1TI 6:16 God dwells in unapproachable light.

    JE 34:4-5 God says Zedekiah was to die in peace.
    JE 52:10-11 Instead, Zedekaih's sons are slain before his eyes, his eyes are then put out, he is bound in fetters, taken to Babylon and left in prison to die.

    Geneologies

    GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
    LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.

    GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
    GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz.
    1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek.

    GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
    RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)

    1SA 16:10-11, 17:12 Jesse had seven sons plus David, or eight total.
    1CH 2:13-15 He had seven total.

    2CH 3:11-13 The lineage is: Joram, Ahaziah, Joash, Amaziah, Azariah, Jotham.
    MT 1:8-9 It is: Joram, Uzziah, Jotham, etc.

    2CH 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel.
    ER 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel.

    MT 1:16 Jacob was Joseph's father.
    LK 3:23 Heli was Joseph's father.

    MT 1:17 There were twenty-eight generations from David to Jesus.
    LK 3:23-38 There were forty-three.

    Internal Historical Contradictions

    GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
    GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.

    GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
    GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

    GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

    GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

    GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
    GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.

    GE 11:16 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
    GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
    GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

    GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.
    GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
    NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.

    GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark.
    GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken (and are taken) aboard the Ark.
    GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite.
    AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem, bought from the sons of Hamor.

    EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number of men of military age who take part in the Exodus is given as more than 600,000. Allowing for women, children, and older men would probably mean that a total of about 2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt.
    1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including children, number only 7000 at a later time.

    NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
    1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.

    NU 33:38 Aaron died on Mt. Hor.
    DT 10:6 Aaron died in Mosera.

    NU 33:41-42 After Aaron's death, the Israelites journeyed from Mt. Hor, to Zalmonah, to Punon, etc.
    DT 10:6-7 It was from Mosera, to Gudgodah, to Jotbath.

    JG 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him.
    JG 5:25-27 Sisera was standing.

    JS 10:38-40 Joshua himself captured Debir.
    JG 1:11-15 It was Othniel, who thereby obtained the hand of Caleb's daughter, Achsah.

    1SA 15:7-8, 20 The Amalekites are utterly destroyed.
    1SA 27:8-9 They are utterly destroyed (again?).
    1SA 30:1, 17-18 They raid Ziklag and David smites them (again?).

    1SA 16:19-23 Saul knew David well before the latter's encounter with Goliath.
    1SA 17:55-58 Saul did not know David at the time of his encounter with Goliath and had to ask about David's identity.

    1SA 17:50 David killed Goliath.
    2SA 21:19 Elhanan killed Goliath. (Note: Some translations insert the words "the brother of" before Elhanan. These are an addition to the earliest manuscripts in an apparent attempt to rectify this inconsistency.)

    1SA 21:1-6 Ahimalech was high priest when David ate the bread.
    MK 2:26 Abiathar was high priest at the time.

    1SA 31:4-6 Saul killed himself by falling on his sword.
    2SA 2:2-10 Saul, at his own request, was slain by an Amalekite.
    2SA 21:12 Saul was killed by the Philistines on Gilboa.
    1CH 10:13-14 Saul was slain by God.

    2SA 6:23 Michal was childless.
    2SA 21:8 (KJV) She had five sons.

    2SA 24:1 The Lord inspired David to take the census.
    1CH 21:1 Satan inspired the census.

    2SA 24:9 The census count was: Israel 800,000 and Judah 500,000.
    1CH 21:5 The census count was: Israel 1,100,000 and Judah 470,000.

    2SA 24:10-17 David sinned in taking the census.
    1KI 15:5 David's only sin (ever) was in regard to another matter.

    2SA 24:24 David paid 50 shekels of silver for the purchase of a property.
    1CH 21:22-25 He paid 600 shekels of gold.

    1KI 4:26 Solomon had 40,000 horses (or stalls for horses).
    2CH 9:25 He had 4,000 horses (or stalls for horses).

    1KI 5:16 Solomon had 3,300 supervisors.
    2CH 2:2 He had 3,600 supervisors.

    1KI 7:15-22 The two pillars were 18 cubits high.
    2CH 3:15-17 They were 35 cubits high.

    1KI 7:26 Solomon's "molten sea" held 2000 "baths" (1 bath = about 8 gallons).
    2CH 4:5 It held 3000 "baths."

    1KI 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.
    2CH 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.

    1KI 15:14 Asa did not remove the high places.
    2CH 14:2-3 He did remove them.

    1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
    2CH 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign.

    2SA 6:6 Uzzah dies at the threshing-floor of Nacon.
    1CH 13:9 Uzzah dies at the threshing-floor of Chidon

    1KI 16:23 Omri became king in the thirty-first year of Asa's reign and he reigned for a total of twelve years.
    1KI 16:28-29 Omri died, and his son Ahab became king in the thirty- eighth year of Asa's reign. (Note: Thirty-one through thirty-eight equals a reign of seven or eight years.)

    1KI 22:42-43 Jehoshaphat did not remove the high places.
    2CH 17:5-6 He did remove them.

    2KI 8:25-26 Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began his reign.
    2CH 22:1 He was 42 when he began his reign.

    2KI 9:27 Jehu shot Ahaziah near Ibleam. Ahaziah fled to Meggido and died there.
    2CH 22:9 Ahaziah was found hiding in Samaria, brought to Jehu, and put to death.

    2KI 16:5 The King of Syria and the son of the King of Israel did not conquer Ahaz.
    2CH 28:5-6 They did conquer Ahaz.

    2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) reigned three months.
    2CH 36:9 He reigned three months and ten days.

    2KI 24:17 Jehoiachin (Jehoaikim) was succeeded by his uncle.
    2CH 36:10 He was succeeded by his brother.

    MT 1:18-21 The Annunciation occurred after Mary had conceived Jesus.
    LK 1:26-31 It occurred before conception.

    MT 2:13-16 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt, (where they stay until after Herod's death) in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Herod slaughters all male infants two years old and under. (Note: John the Baptist, Jesus' cousin, though under two is somehow spared without fleeing to Egypt.)
    LK 2:22-40 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remain in the area of Jerusalem for the Presentation (about forty days) and then return to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There is no slaughter of the infants.

    MT 3:16, MK 1:10 It was Jesus who saw the Spirit descending.
    JN 1:32 It was John who saw the Spirit descending.

    MT 3:17 The heavenly voice addressed the crowd: "This is my beloved Son."
    MK 1:11, LK 3:22 The voice addressed Jesus: "You are my beloved Son...."

    MT 4:1-11, MK 1:12-13 Immediately following his Baptism, Jesus spent forty days in the wilderness resisting temptation by the Devil.
    JN 2:1-11 Three days after the Baptism, Jesus was at the wedding in Cana.

    MT 4:5-8 The Devil took Jesus to the pinnacle of the temple, then to the mountain top.
    LK 4:5-9 First to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle of the temple.

    MT 4:18-20, MK 1:16-18 (One story about choosing Peter as a disciple.)
    LK 5:2-11 (A different story.)
    JN 1:35-42 (Still another story.)

    MT 8:5-12 The centurion himself approaches Jesus to ask to heal his servant.
    LK 7:2-10 The centurion sends elders to do the asking.

    MT 8:28-33 Two demoniacs are healed in the Gadarene swine incident.
    MK 5:2-16, LK 8:26-36 One demoniac is healed in this incident.

    MT 10:2, MK 3:16-19 The twelve apostles (disciples) were: Simon (Peter), Andrew his brother, James the son of Zebedee, John his brother, Philip, Bartholemew, Thomas, Matthew the tax collector, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus (Labbaeus), Simon, and Judas Iscariot.
    LK 6:13-16 The above except that Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded, and Judas the son of James is added (and Judas Iscariot remains).
    AC 1:13, 26 Same as MT and MK except that, like LK Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded, Judas the son of James is included, and Mathias is chosen by the others to replace Judas Iscariot.

    MT 10:10 Do not take sandals (shoes) or staves.
    MK 6:8-9 Take sandals (shoes) and staves.

    MT 17:1-2 The Transfiguration occurs six days after Jesus foretells his suffering.
    LK 9:28-29 It takes place about eight days afterwards.

    MT 20:20-21 The mother of James and John asks Jesus a favor for her sons.
    MK 10:35-37 They ask for themselves.

    MT 20:29-34 Jesus heals two blind men on the way to Jericho.
    MK 10:46-52 He heals one blind man.

    MT 21:1-17 The sequence was: triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple, Bethany.
    MK 11:1-19 Triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple.
    LK 19:28-48 Triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple, daily teaching in the temple.
    JN 12:1-18 Cleansing of the temple (early in his career), Supper with Lazarus, triumphal entry, no cleansing of the temple following the triumphal entry.

    MT 21:2-6, MK 11:2-7, LK 19:30-35 The disciples follow Jesus instructions and bring him the animal (or animals, in the case of MT).
    JN 12:14 Jesus finds the animal himself.

    MT 21:7 Jesus rides two animals during his triumphal entry.
    MK 11:7, LK 19:35, JN 12:14 Only one animal is involved.

    MT 21:19-20 The fig tree withers immediately after being cursed by Jesus. The disciples notice and are amazed.
    MK 11:13-14, 20-21 The disciples first notice that the tree has withered the day following.

    MT 26:6-13, MK 14:3 The anointing of Jesus takes place in Bethany at the house of Simon the leper.
    LK 7:36-38 It takes place at the house of a Pharisee in Galilee.

    MT 26:7, MK 14:3 The oil is poured on Jesus' head.
    LK 7:38, JN 12:3 On his feet.

    MT 28:6-8 The women ran from the tomb "with great joy."
    JN 20:1-2 Mary told Peter and the other disciple that the body had been stolen. (Would she feel "great joy" if she thought the body had been stolen?)

    MT 26:8 The disciples reproach her.
    MK 14:4 "Some" reproach her.
    JN 12:4-5 Judas Iscariot reproaches her.

    MT 26:14-25, MK 14:10-11, LK 22:3-23 Judas made his bargain with the chief priests before the meal.
    JN 13:21-30 After the meal.

    MT 26:20-29, MK 14:17-28, JN 13:21-30 Jesus forecasts his betrayal prior to the communion portion of the supper.
    LK 22:14-23 After the communion portion.

    MT 26:26-29, MK 14:22-25 The order of the communion was: bread, then wine.
    LK 22:17-20 It was: wine, then bread.

    MT 26:34, LK 22:34, JN 13:38 Peter was to deny Jesus before the **** crowed.
    MK 14:30 Before the **** crowed twice.
    MK 14:66-72 The **** crows after both the first and second denials.
    (Note: These discrepancies have been "translated out" in some Bible versions.)

    MT 26:40-45, MK 14:37-41 The disciples fall asleep three times.
    LK 22:45 One time.

    MT 26:49-50, MK 14:44-46 Jesus is betrayed by Judas with a kiss, then seized.
    LK 22:47-48 Jesus anticipates Judas' kiss. No actual kiss is mentioned.
    JN 18:2-9 Jesus voluntarily steps forward to identify himself making it completely unnecessary for Judas to point him out. No kiss is mentioned.

    MT 26:51, MK 14:47, JN 18:10 The ear of a slave is cut off and left that way.
    LK 22:50-51 The severed ear is miraculously healed by Jesus.

    MT 26:57, MK 14:53, LK 22:54 After his arrest Jesus is first taken to Caiphas, the high priest.
    JN 18:13-24 First to Annas, the son-in-law of Caiphas, then to Caiphas.

    MT 26:18-20, 57-68, 27:1-2, MK 14:16-18, 53-72, 15:1 Jesus' initial hearing was at night on Passover. In the morning he was taken to Pilate.
    LK 22:13-15, 54-66 The initial hearing took place in the morning on Passover.
    JN 18:28, 19:14 It took place the day before Passover, on the Day of Preparation.

    MT 26:59-66, MK 14:55-64 Jesus was tried by the entire Sanhedrin (the chief priests and the whole council).
    LK 22:66-71 There was no trial but merely an inquiry held by the Sanhedrin.
    JN 18:13-24 There was no appearance before the Sanhedrin, only the private hearings before Annas and then Caiphas.

    MT 26:64, LK 22:70 Jesus answers: "You have said so," or words to this effect.
    MK 14:62 He answers directly: "I am."

    MT 26:69-70 Peter makes his first denial to a maid and "them all."
    MK 14:66-68, LK 22:56-57, JN 18:17 It was to one maid only.
    MT 26:71-72 Peter's second denial is to still another maid.
    MK 14:69-70 (Apparently) to the same maid.
    LK 22:58 To a man, not a maid.
    JN 18:25 To more than one, "they."
    MT 26:73-74, MK 14:70-71 Peter's third denial is to bystanders (two or more).
    LK 22:59-60 To "another" (one).
    JN 18:26-27 To one of the servants.
    MT 26:74 The **** crowed once.
    MK 14:72 The **** crowed twice.

    MT 27:3-7 The chief priests bought the field.
    AC 1:16-19 Judas bought the field.

    MT 27:5 Judas threw down the pieces of silver, then departed.
    AC 1:18 He used the coins to buy the field.

    MT 27:5 Judas hanged himself.
    AC 1:18 He fell headlong, burst open, and his bowels gushed out.

    MT 27:11-14 Jesus answers not a single charge at his hearing before Pilate.
    JN 18:33-37 Jesus answers all charges at his hearing before Pilate.

    MT 27:20 The chief priests and elders are responsible for persuading the people to ask for the release of Barabbas.
    MK 15:11 Only the chief priests are responsible.
    LK 23:18-23 The people ask, apparently having decided for themselves.

    MT 27:28 Jesus is given a scarlet robe (a sign of infamy).
    MK 15:17, JN 19:2 A purple robe (a sign of royalty).

    MT 27:32, MK 15:21, LK 23:26 Simon of Cyrene carries Jesus' cross.
    JN 19:17 Jesus carries his own cross with no help from anyone.

    MT 27:37 The inscription on the cross read: "This is Jesus the King of the Jews."
    MK 15:26 "The King of the Jews."
    LK 23:38 "This is the King of the Jews."
    JN 19:19 "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews."

    MT 27:44 Both of those who are crucified with Jesus taunt him.
    LK 23:39-42 Only one taunts Jesus, and he is rebuked by the other for doing so.

    MT 27:46-50, MK 15:34-37 Jesus' last recorded words are: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
    LK 23:46 "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit."
    JN 19:30 "It is finished." (Note: Even though both MT and MK represent direct quotes and are translated similarly, the actual Greek words used for God are different. MT uses "Eli" and MK uses "Eloi.")

    MT 27:48, LK 23:36, JN 19:29 Jesus was offered vinegar to drink.
    MK 15:23 It was wine and myrrh, and he did not drink it.
    JN 19:29-30 Whatever it was, he did drink it.

    MT 27:62-66 A guard was placed at the tomb (the day following the burial).
    MK 15:42- 16:8, LK 23:50-56, JN 19:38-42 (No guard is mentioned. This is important since rumor had it that Jesus' body was stolen and the Resurrection feigned.)
    MK 16:1-3, LK 24:1 (There could not have been a guard, as far as the women were concerned, since they were planning to enter the tomb with spices. Though the women were aware of the stone, they were obviously unaware of a guard.)

    MT 28:1 The first visitors to the tomb were Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (two).
    MK 16:1 Both of the above plus Salome (three).
    LK 23:55 - 24:1, 24:10 Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and "other women" (at least five).
    JN 20:1 Mary Magdalene only (one).

    MT 28:1 It was toward dawn when they arrived.
    MK 16:2 It was after sunrise.
    LK 24:1 It was at early dawn.
    JN 20:1 It was still dark.

    MT 28:1-2 The stone was still in place when they arrived. It was rolled away later.
    MK 16:4, LK 24:2, JN 20:1 The stone had already been rolled (or taken) away.

    MT 28:2 An angel arrived during an earthquake, rolled back the stone, then sat on it (outside the tomb).
    MK 16:5 No earthquake, only one young man sitting inside the tomb.
    LK 24:2-4 No earthquake. Two men suddenly appear standing inside the tomb.
    JN 20:12 No earthquake. Two angels are sitting inside the tomb.

    MT 28:8 The visitors ran to tell the disciples.
    MK 16:8 They said nothing to anyone.
    LK 24:9 They told the eleven and all the rest.
    JN 20:10-11 The disciples returned home. Mary remained outside, weeping.

    MT 28:8-9 Jesus' first Resurrection appearance was fairly near the tomb.
    LK 24:13-15 It was in the vicinity of Emmaus (seven miles from Jerusalem).
    JN 20:13-14 It was right at the tomb.

    MT 28:9 On his first appearance to them, Jesus lets Mary Magdalene and the other Mary hold him by his feet.
    JN 20:17 On his first appearance to Mary, Jesus forbids her to touch him since he has not yet ascended to the Father.
    JN 20:27 A week later, although he has not yet ascended to the Father, Jesus tells Thomas to touch him.

    MT 28:7-10, MT 28:16 Although some doubted, the initial reaction of those that heard the story was one of belief since they followed the revealed instructions.
    MK 16:11, LK 24:11 The initial reaction was one of disbelief. All doubted.

    MT 28:1-18 The order of Resurrection appearances was: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, then the eleven.
    MK 16:9-14 It was Mary Magdalene, then two others, then the eleven.
    LK 24:15-36 It was two, then Simon (Peter?), then the eleven.
    JN 20:14 - 21:1 It was Mary Magdalene, then the disciples without Thomas, then the disciples with Thomas, then the eleven disciples again.
    1CO 15:5-8 It was Cephas (Peter?), then the "twelve" (which twelve, Judas was dead?), then 500+ brethren (although AC 1:15 says there were only about 120), then James, then all the Apostles, then Paul.

    MK 1:14 Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist.
    JN 3:22-24 Before the arrest of John the Baptist.

    MK 6:16 Herod was the source of the belief that John had been raised from the dead.
    LK 9:7 Others were the source. Herod was perplexed by the belief.

    MK 6:52 The people were so unimpressed with "the Feeding of the Multitude" that they did not even understand the event.
    JN 6:14-15 They were so impressed that they tried to force Jesus to be their king.

    MK 6:53 After the feeding of the 5000, Jesus and the disciples went to Gennesaret.
    JN 6:17-25 They went to Capernaum.

    MK 15:25 It was the third hour when Jesus was crucified.
    JN 19:14-15 It was after the sixth hour since Jesus was still before Pilate and had not yet been sentenced at that time.

    MK 16:1-2 The women came to the tomb to anoint the body.
    JN 19:39-40 The body had already been anointed and wrapped in linen cloth.

    MK 16:14-19 The Ascension took place (presumably from a room) while the disciples were together seated at a table, probably in or near Jerusalem.
    LK 24:50-51 It took place outdoors, after supper, at Bethany (near Jerusalem).
    AC 1:9-12 It took place outdoors, after 40+ days, at Mt. Olivet.
    MT 28:16-20 No mention is made of an ascension, but if it took place at all, it must have been from a mountain in Galilee since MT ends there.

    LK 22:3-23 Satan entered Judas before the supper.
    JN 13:27 It was during the supper

    LK 23:55-56 The women followed Joseph to the tomb, saw how the body had been laid, then went to prepare spices with which to annoint the body.
    JN 19:39-40 Joseph brought spices with him (75 or a 100 lbs.) and annointed the body (as the women should have noticed).

    JN 17:12 Jesus has lost none of his disciples other than Judas.
    JN 18:9 Jesus has lost none, period.

    AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion heard the voice but saw no one.
    AC 22:9 They saw a light but did not hear a voice.

    AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion stood.
    AC 26:14 They fell to the ground.

    AC 9:19-28 Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Damascus, then Jerusalem where he was introduced to the Apostles by Barnabas, and there spent some time with them (going in and out among them).
    GA 1:15-20 He made the trip three years later, then saw only Peter and James.

    AC 9:23 The governor attempted to seize Paul.
    2CO 11:32 It was the Jews who tried to seize Paul.

    Teaching Inconsistencies

    GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
    LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.

    EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary).
    GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary).

    EX 20 Moses gets the Ten Commandments, but breaks them
    EX 34 Moses gets "the words that were on the first,†but they’re totally different

    DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, EZ 18:20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
    EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS 14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their parent's sins.
    RO 5:12, 19, 1CO 15:22 Death is passed to all men by the sin of Adam.

    LE 25:37, PS 15:1, 5 It is wrong to lend money at interest.
    MT 25:27, LK 19:23-27 It is wrong to lend money without interest.

    2KI 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
    MT 9:18-25, JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
    AC 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.

    JB 2:3-6, 21:7-13, 2TI 3:12 The godly are persecuted and chastised but the wicked grow old, wealthy, and powerful, unchastised by God.
    PS 55:23, 92:12-14, PR 10:2-3, 27-31, 12:2, 21 The lives of the wicked are cut short. The righteous flourish and obtain favor from the Lord.

    PS 58:10-11 The righteous shall rejoice when he sees vengeance.
    PR 24:16-18 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls or stumbles.

    PS 78:69, EC 1:4, 3:14 The earth was established forever.
    PS 102:25-26, MT 24:35, MK 13:31, LK 21:33, HE 1:10-11, 2PE 3:10 The earth will someday perish.

    PR 26:4 Do not answer a fool. To do so makes you foolish too.
    PR 26:5 Answer a fool. If you don't, he will think himself wise.

    EZ 20:25-26 The law was not good. The sacrifice of children was for the purpose of horrifying the people so that they would know that God is Lord.
    RO 7:12, 1TI 1:8 The law is good.

    MT 3:12, 13:42 Hell is a furnace of fire (and must therefore be light).
    MT 8:12, 22:13, 25:30 Hell is an "outer darkness" (and therefore dark).

    MT 5:22 Anyone who calls another a fool is liable to Hell.
    MT 7:26 Jesus says that anyone who hears his words and does not do them is a fool. (Note: The translation now prevalent, "like a foolish man," in MT 7:26 is a dishonest attempt to alleviate the obvious inconsistency here in that the oldest Greek manuscripts use the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and "like a foolish man" in MT 7:26.)
    MT 23:17-19 Jesus twice calls the Pharisees blind fools.
    MT 25:2, 3, 8 Jesus likens the maidens who took no oil to fools. (Note: Again, this is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19.)
    1CO 1:23, 3:18, 4:10 Paul uses fool with regard to Christians becoming fools for Christ. (Note: Again, this is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19.)

    MT 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin.
    EP 4:26 Anger is not necessarily a sin.

    MT 11:7-15, 17:12-13 Jesus says that John the Baptist was a prophet, and more.
    JN 1:21 John himself says that he is not a prophet, nor is he Elijah.

    MT 11:25, MK 4:11-12 Jesus thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes." He says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain hidden to at least some persons, and specifically so that they will not turn and be forgiven.
    MK 4:22 Jesus says that all things should be made known.

    MT 16:6, 11 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
    MK 8:15 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Herod.

    MK 1:23-24 A demon cries out that Jesus is the Holy One of God.
    JN 4:1-2 Everyone who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God. (Note: This would mean that the demon is of God.)

    MK 3:29 Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.
    AC 13:39, CN 2:13, 1JN 1:9 All sins are forgivable.

    MK 4:11-12, 11:25 Jesus says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain secret to at least some persons. He explains the meanings of the parables only to his disciples. He thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes."
    JN 18:20 Jesus says that he always taught openly, never secretly.

    LK 1:15 John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit from before his birth or the birth of Jesus.
    LK 1:41 Elizabeth had it long before Jesus went away.
    LK 1:67 So did Zechariah.
    LK 2:25 So did Simeon.
    JN 7:39, JN 16:7, AC 1:3-5 The Holy Spirit cannot come into the world until after Jesus has departed.

    LK 18:9-14 Do not boast of your virtue.
    RO 11:20, 1PE 5:5 Do not be proud.
    RO 15:17, 2CO 1:12, HE 3:6, 2CO 2:14, 5:12, 11:17 Paul boasts of his faith and says that one should be proud of it.

    LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
    JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.

    JN 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
    JN 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.
    JN 1:1 Jesus was God incarnate.
    AC 2:22 Jesus was a man approved by God.

    JN 3:17, 8:15, 12:47 Jesus does not judge.
    JN 5:22, 5:27-30, 9:39, AC 10:42, 2CO 5:10 Jesus does judge.

    JN 5:22 God does not judge.
    RO 2:2-5, 3:19, 2TH 1:5, 1PE 1:17 God does judge.

    GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
    JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
    LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.
    JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).
    1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).
    RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.

    MT 10:22, 24:13, MK 13:13 He that endures to the end will be saved.
    MK 16:16 He that believes and is baptized will be saved.
    JN 3:5 Only he that is born of water and Spirit will be saved.
    AC 16:31 He that believes on the Lord Jesus will be saved.
    AC 2:21 He that calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
    RO 10:9 He who confesses with his mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believes in his heart that God raised him from the dead will be saved.
    1JN 4:7 He who loves is born of God (and presumably will be saved.)

    JN 5:24 Believers do not come into judgement.
    MT 12:36, 2CO 5:10, HE 9:27, 1PE 1:17, JU 1:14-15, RE 20:12-13 All persons (including believers) come into judgement.

    JN 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true.
    JN 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true.

    JN 5:38-47 Men have a choice as to whether or not to receive Jesus.
    JN 6:44 No one can come to Jesus unless he is drawn by the Father.

    JN 10:27-29 None of Jesus' followers will be lost.
    TI 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

    JN 13:36 Peter asks Jesus where he is going.
    JN 14:5 Thomas does the same.
    JN 16:5 Jesus says that none of them have asked him where he is going.

    JN 21:25 The world probably could not contain the books if all that Jesus did were to be recorded.

    RO 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything that might cause your brother to stumble or be offended.
    CN 2:16 Let no one pass judgement on you in matters of food and drink.

    1CO 10:33 Paul says that he tries to please men (so they might be saved).
    GA 1:10 Paul says he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men.

    2CO 12:16 Paul says that he does use trickery.
    1TH 2:3 Paul says that he does not use trickery.

    GA 6:2 Bear one anothers burdens.
    GA 6:5 Bear your own burden.
    AC 1:1 The author of Acts has already written about all that Jesus began to do.

    RE 8:7 All of the grass on earth is burned up, and then ...
    REV 9:4 An army of locusts, which is about to be turned loose on the earth, is instructed not to harm the grass.

    2 Kings 2:11 Elijah ascended to heaven
    John 3:13 No one has ascended to heaven

    AC 2:30 The Christ came from human seed
    MT 1:18 The Christ came from nonhuman seed

    LEV 11:21-23 Insects do not have four legs

    DE 14:7 Rabbits do not chew their cud

    PS 58:8 Snails do not melt

    LEV 11:13-19, DT 14:11-18 A bat is not a bird

    GE 1:16 The sun is created before the stars, as if the sun somehow weren’t a star. Also, the moon is not a light, it merely reflects the sun’s light.

    Where’d That Come From?

    MT 27:9 Jeremiah is given as the source of the prophecy regarding the purchase of the Potter's Field. (Note: There is no such prophesy in Jeremiah. The prophecy is in Zechariah 11:12-13)

    MT 12:5 Jesus says that the law (OT) states that the priests profane the Sabbath but are blameless. (No such statement is found in the OT.

    MK 1:2 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in Isaiah. (No such statement appears in Isaiah.)

    MK 10:19 Jesus lists "defraud not" as one of the commandments.
    EX 20:3-17 There is no such commandment in the Ten Commandments or elsewhere in the OT

    JN 7:38 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (i.e., the OT, but no such statement is found in the OT.)

    JN 17:12 Mentions a "son of perdition" as appearing in scripture (meaning the OT).
    (Note: There is no "son of perdition" mentioned in the OT.)

    JN 20:9 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (meaning the OT). (No such statement is found in the OT.)

    AC 20:35 Quotes Jesus as having said: "It is more blessed to give than to receive." (No such statement of Jesus is found elsewhere in the Bible.)

    RO 10:11 (An alleged OT quote; no such statement in the OT.)

    JA 4:5 (Quotes an alleged scripture (OT) verse; not found in the OT.)
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    This would have been more helpful with a thesis and conclusion so i knew what you were trying to get at.
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    Wow another bible thread. you should feel real proud yeti for discovering such an original topic.
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    You need a study Bible. Generally they explain what the dilly is with many of these passages.

    Though it's unrealistic to believe that a book that long isn't going to have inconsistencies. It's written in three languages over a span of several hundred years.

    I have a bad feeling about where this thread is going to go.
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    Yes the Bible have some mistakes. I am sure for most of those, there is an answer, and you are not reading further, just reading what you want to read. The bible was translated to many languages, over thousands of years.
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    You have to take in account several different factors when looking at a piece of text like the bible.

    1. Parts of it were written well over 2000 years ago. Things can easily get lost/changed in that period of time.
    2. It was writtern in a number of different languages and stuff always gets lost/changed in translation.
    3. It was written by several different authors for several different reasons, the politics of the time period plays a huge role in how the passage would originally have been understood.
    4. Personally I think the bible is more of a storybook than a fact based piece of writing (the old testament at least). The specific facts dont matter as much as the meanings behind them.

    Note: Although I am defending the bible I think I should point out that I'm not a religious person so I would like to believe that my opinions are relatively unbiased.
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    So, this took yo how long to research this?
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    as long as it took him to press ctrl + c, click on new thread, then press ctrl + v
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    Why couldn't you have just linked to your source, it would have made this thread easier to read :)
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    shall we change the topic then?
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    The last half of those "contradictions" are all from the the gospels, which are eye-witness accounts. The fact they they don't synch up in every instance is actually proof to me that the Bible isn't a fake.

    If everything had matched up exactly between the four different eye-witness accounts, I would have been rather suspicious.

    Some of them are just LOL funny:
    Says who? Oh, you mean modern classifications. Yeah, I'm sure back then they saw the distinction. :lol:
    Defraud? Hmm:
    Defraud - To take something by fraud; swindle:
    Oh, you mean like stealing? I think I heard something about that in the OT.
    Um, Jesus didn't write any of the Bible, to my knowledge. Thus, all of his quotes are from the actual writers. Just because the quote only shows up once doesn't really mean anything . . . .
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    yeah.. a lot of these are pretty lame. Just people with too much time trying to knitpick every little thing i guess. Doesn't really prove a whole lot, not like it's going to change anyone's opinion or anything.... stuff like this is pretty much just trying to piss people off.
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    Haha, some of them aren't even from the same time period:
    The first was killed by David as a teen, the second was during David's reign. Two different Goliaths? Surely not! :lol:
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    I remember as a young lad asking the questions: Who was Cain's wife and why did he build a city?:scratch:
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    "But do not deliver unto us in more than 30 minutes, for then surely we shall receive a second deliverance free of charge" - Deals 22:4
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    Amen, brotha!
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    Eh, although the original poster clearly intended this a fit of mean spiritedness [insert Henry Rollins quote about mean people here], it is a legitimate argument against strict and literal interpretation of the Old Testament. The OT was meant to be a collection of stories for providing moral guidance, not a scientific document nor perfect historical record nor calendar nor excuse for incest nor any of the other crazy things that can arise from taking the OT too literally.
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    Can I get a hallelujah!
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    "The OT was meant to be a collection of stories for providing moral guidance".

    Oh, thank you for your spiritual insight, great one.
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    For some reason, this made me crack up. :lol:

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