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Discussion in 'Hardcore' started by Smm-Diablo, Jun 10, 2004. | Replies: 21 | Views: 936

  1. Smm-Diablo

    Smm-Diablo IncGamers Member

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    best lld

    i would like to know your guys opinions on the best low level dueler.

    thrower barb
    charge pally
    zeal pally
    claw assn
    kick assn
    or any other ideas..thanx
  2. stevethatsmyname

    stevethatsmyname IncGamers Member

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    best low level dueler is the one that you have most fun on :)

    seriously, i think that kicksin is the cheapest, and best killing power for how much resources you have to put in her (no expensive jewels, charms are cheaper) But i have not made one yet, just chargers so far.

    Kickers will not be able to kill chicken hacking noobs, though, thats why i prefer charge. My level 30 chargeadin can kill anyone with less than 1k health in 1 hit! Pretty good, eh?
  3. NightShade

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    Sac paladin's are hardcore....Tastey tastey damage all around. I might make a lvl 20 ish one for fun.
  4. HelzCaretaker

    HelzCaretaker IncGamers Member

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    there is no "best" lld build nuf said.
    Right now I have a 16 zealot/26 kicker/34 druid
  5. Cleglaw_Himself

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    Imo, best is a charger (1 handed with shield) for sure. They do the most damage but have low life. They kill any character their lvl hands down.

    Kicksins cannot kill chickenhackers. Chargers can - and there is satisfaction in that!
  6. Dirty Don

    Dirty Don IncGamers Member

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    I think the "dueler" might be a Kick sin becasue they can take down chargers.

    But if you want kill people out-right, then go with a charger.

    And btw, in LLD any character can have an high of life any any other. It's all about the charms you use (both my LLD pallys had over 1100 life before they died).
  7. Cleglaw_Himself

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    I have to disagree. Kicksins can take 2 handed chargers as long as they don't get hit much; but, they cannot beat a good 1 hand charger.
    I've played and still have both, and I would always bet on my charger.
  8. senji

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    if not counting level over 30 the best is honor zealot or a charger
    kicksins are a joke to them
  9. NightShade

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    Ohnos! You hit me wil a 60 pvp dmg kick...good thing I still have 1.2k life left.

    OHNOS! I hit you with a single attack and you dieeeeeed.
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    jabber>kicker. Kicker is cheaper, but a perfect jabber is MUCH stronger than a perfect kicker.
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    I really like my lvl 15 zeal/charge paladin, use both skills and he is very effective.
  12. NightShade

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    A perfect jabber is something to fear.
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    You hit me wil a 60 pvp dmg kick...good thing I still have 1.2k life left.

    OHNOS! I hit you with a single attack and you dieeeeeed.



    That would be a 60 pvp kick that also takes 20 to 30% of your life thanks to CB. And hitting with a charger often proves quite difficult when your opponent stays at point blank range.

    I'm not saying I'd defeat you with a kicksin, but don't underestimate them either... BTW, thanks to the latest technologies ;) a 25 kicker can get more like 80 damage per kick.


    seriously, i think that kicksin is the cheapest, and best killing power for how much resources you have to put in her (no expensive jewels, charms are cheaper)

    As with all duellers, this depends solely on the money you'd like to invest. I've thought up kicker builds I've never been able to afford/find the gear for. But yes, a moderately good kicksin doesn't cost that much.
  14. Baranor

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    25 huh? ho hum hum ho, let me check some things....

    ah yes, there the entry is in the jewel prefixes and suffixes.

    Take the kicker to level 27 and equip her with either:
    10-30 fire damage jewels (4+3+3=10 slots)
    1-60 lighting damage jeewls (better choice imho)

    obviously you can also use Rusty Jewels of Lightning to better the damage.

    Now, 10 of those would end up being: 6-600 lighting damage and 200% ED on top of the formulae. 6-600 translates into 1-100 PvP damage added (even after 75% res its 1-25 damage or a 31% damage increase). I have no idea what exactly the 200% damage will do as I'm too lame to look up the formulae and calculate, but i'm sure your clever minds will already have seen that anyone without lighting resistance will find this very unsettling :innocent: .

    I didnt tell you this though.... nahhhhhhhhh.... good luck in finding the jools :spy: remember that you can reroll jewels, and said suffix will occur on jewels of level ilvl 36 and higher.
  15. Baranor

    Baranor IncGamers Member

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    the correct order is "charge" "smite" "zeal" "smite" "charge" pick up ear...

    even the most audacious players will hate you after you run this cycle on them once...
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    for those who say kicksins can't kill chickeners or lose to a 1 handed charger never ran across me, my kicker is an abomination (I just named her that for fun), anyways I dueled a decked out 18 charger who used clegs/15 max's in everything and kicked his *** pretty bad, also for those who say kicksins can't kill chickeners duck_taper was struck down by my kicker and he chcikened many times to my 16 zealot (he was 18 charger). IN fact, so far she's only had 1 real duel to this day vs a very nice 25 kicker and an ok duel to a 31 eth upped snapper (beat them both but barely). She's not the dtalon kicker, don't ask me her build I'd prefer no one to know about it, but she chickened 31/33 kickers.
  17. Hobbesmsu

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    ahh your the one that killed duct_taper then? I was wondering why he wasn't harrassing sewer games.
  18. HelzCaretaker

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    yeah I chickened him a lot on my 16 once my 26 was up just a matter of finding and getting a duel he was stupid enough to go out against me and well I told him he was gonna die and made the promise come true. :thumbsup:
  19. Hobbesmsu

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    Nice. :thumbsup: I took a couple of shots at him but obviously not good enough
  20. Baranor

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    Ho hum hum ho would that involve tige strike and maybe dtail?

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