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[ancalagon]

Originally Posted by TheBigClown

I'm quite sure Krupa says that it's only meant as a guide. The notion of a correct price is somewhat wack.



Paying 5 ists vs a 15% nw is overpriced.



Maybe it's worth more than a pul rune, but it's deffinately not worth a minimun of 3 ists.



The price you're willing to pay for mara is just amazing.



What's the difference between 3 hr's and 4 ists - it's almost the same. You pay too much vs your bk rings.

About stormshild I would say more like lem-pul. I've both sold and bought vs lem recently. However 148 is deffinately worth pul.

His prices are correct dude. hang around BNet more often

EDIT: That sounded like an insult which was NOT my intention. But I agree with his prices 90%+.

Maras 29+ can go for even more what he quoted...

[BurialAtSea]

I have to agree with the big clown. For example the nightwing 15. You can get it easily for 2 ists( i bought one for pul month ago, but that was lucky i think). You have to be crazy to pay 5 ists for it. Or the maras. I remember 2 months ago I bought maras 29 for 6 ists( when hr was 2 ists ea) and saw many games where they also offered for that amount.( also bought maras 30 for 3 ists but it poofed) The bk5 rings you can get it easily for 3 ists ea. same as sojs.

[Krupa]

Originally Posted by Chicken

Tradinfool, I actually used your ESCL guide as a rough guideline when I was clueless about prices (I'm relatively new to d2). I ended up conning myself a few times, one time being trading my hellforge Mal for Um Pul when they were easily going for Ist Um (or Ist Ist!)

It's great to have a guide like this to refer to rather than having to PC everything. Great job!





Hmmm... I have a +5 BO 2 socket magic helm - could I get 4 highrunes for it or does it need other mods?

a magic helmet with 5 to battle order in any constellation and 2 open socs is worth around that amount, yes. nothing else is needed on it. don't pin me on the 4 hr's but its in that general area

Originally Posted by ancalagon

His prices are correct dude. hang around BNet more often

EDIT: That sounded like an insult which was NOT my intention. But I agree with his prices 90%+.

Maras 29+ can go for even more what he quoted...

i guess the 90% refer to morgue. the prices he states and i write in my guide are not that different. most of the time it's one ist when the item is worth 5 to 8. thats just good deal <-> bad deal difference.

for example last night i sold one atma's and 2 dol for one ist and traded 2 lem vs one ist. i made two good deals, but i wouldn't state that as the current price because of that. and i sold a nw 15%, which i had for 4 months and nobody wanted, for one ist on this forum not too long ago aswell. not everyone may agree with every price i´m setting here, but:

1. i stated more than 100 items here, some eth and non eth
2. depending on ur selling/buying strategy prices differ
3. i want to say that again, next time i'll wrap block around it and use capital letters: just a guide, not facts

[krischan]

Originally Posted by TheBigClown

(1 socket CoA)
Maybe it's worth more than a pul rune, but it's deffinately not worth a minimun of 3 ists.

There isn't much difference between a halfway decent Rockstopper plus a Larzuk reward and a 1 socket CoA.

[Dizzymjewu]

Originally Posted by krischan

There isn't much difference between a halfway decent Rockstopper plus a Larzuk reward and a 1 socket CoA.

1s CoA is definitely not worth over Pul indeed.

I didn't even say it yet, but: props Krupa, good work

[Krupa]

i guess i´ll rechange 1 soc coa back to pul then...

[ancalagon]

Originally Posted by Krupa

1. i stated more than 100 items here, some eth and non eth
2. depending on ur selling/buying strategy prices differ
3. i want to say that again, next time i'll wrap block around it and use capital letters: just a guide, not facts

Krupa I understand, and we are more than appreciative of your time and effort.

But then again this IS a price guide, and it should be as close and therefore as factual as possible. That is what me and the other users here are trying to do, just wanted to say that

And yes I agree most prices could fluctuate, and it could be a bad deal or good deal, both for seller and buyer. And I guess what I was trying to quote was the most 'common' or average price buyers are willing to pay and sellers are willing to accept

I was using Morgue's prices in reference to big clown's , not your own
I understand Big Clown has a lot of experience and some of his prices are probably correct, but so does Morgue, and my 3rd opinion wouldnt hurt I havent seen Maras 30 go less for 8 ist AT LEAST, in the past 2 months. I bought one and resold too myself, same. Either that or Im just plain crazy.

Thanks for understanding.

[Krupa]

Originally Posted by ancalagon

Krupa I understand, and we are more than appreciative of your time and effort.

But then again this IS a price guide, and it should be as close and therefore as factual as possible. That is what me and the other users here are trying to do, just wanted to say that

And yes I agree most prices could fluctuate, and it could be a bad deal or good deal, both for seller and buyer. And I guess what I was trying to quote was the most 'common' or average price buyers are willing to pay and sellers are willing to accept

I was using Morgue's prices in reference to big clown's , not your own
I understand Big Clown has a lot of experience and some of his prices are probably correct, but so does Morgue, and my 3rd opinion wouldnt hurt I havent seen Maras 30 go less for 8 ist AT LEAST, in the past 2 months. I bought one and resold too myself, same. Either that or Im just plain crazy.

Thanks for understanding.

and i´m grateful for u taking the time reading my thread and giving ur opinion on. but don't get me wrong: i am willing and capable of discussing the prices u suggest.

for maras: i suggested a price of 5+ hr's for mara 29+. meaning a mara 30 may as well go for more than 5 hrs, for example 6 hr's (low example) 6 hr's are 6 ist plus 6 pul imo = 8+ ist, depending if u go for 2 pul = ist or 3 pul = ist. which would fit with ur 8+ ist suggestion. a SoJ might have a common price of 4 ist on bnet, but my stated price of 3 hr = 3 ist plus 3 pul which is 4-5 ist, depending on ist to pul valuation.. so actually the suggested prices by u and morgue are the ones i stated.

i do get why u ppl are suggesting other prices, but the only thing u do, in my point of view, is changing the prices from hr's to ist's or am i calculating something wrong here? what i don't get is, what u are aiming for, because as for now i just don't see the difference in our prices

if u have some specific items u can't at all agree with my suggestions, i would like to know about it. but so far we all agree on the same prices, except nw 15% and CoA 1 soc, and on those we had positive and negative feedback about.

if u are willing to post a price list on jools btw, i am not atm, let me know. i will be more than happy to include it in this price guide

[Noammr]

Awesome work Krupa, the time and effort you spent on this are very much appreciated.

Should reduce the number of pc's made on all those common items.

[djfriesen]

legit bump as the mod hasn't stickied it per his promise