>>>>> Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide <<<<<

[TheBigClown]

Originally Posted by Morgue

I'll correct your PC guide later, I'll not agree with most 60% of your guide values.
Or I'll make selfowned guide based on battle.net prices.
Anyway - you maked great job

I'm quite sure Krupa says that it's only meant as a guide. The notion of a correct price is somewhat wack.

Originally Posted by Morgue

Nightwings 15% 2-3 Ist
correct price is ~ 5 ist

Paying 5 ists vs a 15% nw is overpriced.

Originally Posted by Morgue

Coa 1 Socket Pul - bad coa 1 socks is now from 3 ist as minium price

Maybe it's worth more than a pul rune, but it's deffinately not worth a minimun of 3 ists.

Originally Posted by Morgue

Maras 20-24 2-3 Ist - 2-5 ist
Maras 25-28 2-3 Hr - 4-5 hr
Maras 29+ 5+ Hr - 6hr

The price you're willing to pay for mara is just amazing.

Originally Posted by Morgue

Soj 3 Hr - usually price is 4 ists
Bk3 Hr - 3ists
Bk4 Hr Ist - 4ists
Bk5 2 Hr - 5 ists

What's the difference between 3 hr's and 4 ists - it's almost the same. You pay too much vs your bk rings.

About stormshild I would say more like lem-pul. I've both sold and bought vs lem recently. However 148 is deffinately worth pul.

[Krupa]

so updates have been made to OP

i changed rune values. i don't see ist for 3 pul, but a range of 2-3 should be acceptable for everyone...
amies and rubies been seperated
set prices been updated accordingly.
CoA 1 soc and mara 25-28 been changed
jmod changed
5soc ba and 20 lifer updated

more feedback plz

Originally Posted by Morgue

I'll correct your PC guide later, I'll not agree with most 60% of your guide values.
Or I'll make selfowned guide based on battle.net prices.
Anyway - you maked great job

60% ? :O thats a verdict...actually i didn't see our prices differ that much in most pc's...and except single items they don't differ much in the corrections till now
thx for taking the time to read and the feedback

[Shanksie1337]

I don't want to knock your effort as it's much much better than morgues "60%", but:

Pul = 30 PG's = 2 Lem
Ist = 2-3 Pul = Um - Um+Pul
gul = um

Is simply not the case, no matter what you may have read or w/e. All i do when not mf'ing (B D N for gc's ) is trade ist for 3pul, and puls for pgems.

Ist = 3pul / UmPul (umpul is faster to get, but getting 3Pul is never difficult) and pul will usually get you more than 35 pgems (assuming ofc that you make the game). All i usually do is see what games have already been made, and then make a game 1 pgem lower , so if i see a "O Pul N 40 pgems" i'll create "... N 39 pgems" and i never have any problems getting ppl in to sell pgems. It's very rare that my LF zon will have cleared Cows before i have someone offering me the pgems.

Gul for an Um rune seems a little hopeful imho, tho it has been some time since i made a Death / cubed Vex.

The rest of the list, i don't really have any issues with, as i rarely trade most of the items, but not to sound silly but i probably account for a good percentage of all pgems on Eu . I don't know much, but i do know this particular section of the market like the back of my hand.

Just to end, anyone reading this deciding that Ist=2pul and pul=30 pgems
I'll happily trade you as many ists as u can find for my 2puls and as many lots of 30 pgems for your puls. Quite a decent earner for me

[Krupa]

this might sound a bit off, but to most ppl 5 pgs is not worth bothering with (also this is not meant to be a table of truth, just guidelines, 15% error is more than acceptable). i understand, that someone like u, who buys a real load of pgs bothers with 5 pgs per pul, but in my point of view its just not important. if i sell 30 or 35 for pul...i honestly wouldn't care. it seems the ingame market is overfloating with pgs, the forums aren't. i will change the range, but not the value itself. so pul will be 30-35 pgs.

as for runes: the market is overfloating with runes mal+. thats why a hr is only ist pul nowadays. i think u are overestimating the ist value and at the same time underestimating the pul value. pul and um runes are incresing in prices compared to ist+ runes. so it might not be everywhere yet, but it will come to the point ist = 2pul in not much time. the big forums are making the prices, ingame always follows. i think the range Ist = 2-3 pul is accurate atm. for u its 3 pul = ist, to me its 1.5-2 pul = ist.

how do u value lem's to pg's and pul's?

Originally Posted by Shanksie1337

I'll happily trade you as many ists as u can find for my 2puls

u know, that would make me rich in no time actually

[tradinfool]

I have to throw my 2 cents into the discussion, as the author of the US east ladder guide what krupa wants are the bigger differences. If you think that something is off I am sure krupa will wants your feedback, but if you are quibbling about how may p gems an item is, just take advantage of the difference yourself. If you are making a fortune by exploiting the differences , the market will correct it's self.

And give krupa a break, no one else stepped up to do the guide, so keep the critiques on a positive note.

[BKC]

this man *points 1 post up* deserves a load of cookies! (and he is right in his comments!!)

i said it before i will say it again nice guide krupa! it should save a lot of "useless" PC's in the TV forums...



Greets
BKC

[Krupa]

for now i see this guide as completed. i don't want to post values on jewels atm. gonna do it someother time...

for now i see this guide as an success, cuz the endless flood of pc threads on europe was cut to a minimum since i published this. i won't post anymore pcs on items which are listed here these prices are my opinion, if u disagree u'll have to start a pc thread.

[jffun]

Thanks Krupa for the guide.

[Chicken]

Tradinfool, I actually used your ESCL guide as a rough guideline when I was clueless about prices (I'm relatively new to d2). I ended up conning myself a few times, one time being trading my hellforge Mal for Um Pul when they were easily going for Ist Um (or Ist Ist!)

It's great to have a guide like this to refer to rather than having to PC everything. Great job!

Originally Posted by Krupa

5. Magics

Helmets

5 Bo 1 Socket helm Ist
5 Bo 2 Socket helm 4+ Hr

Hmmm... I have a +5 BO 2 socket magic helm - could I get 4 highrunes for it or does it need other mods?

[Toob]

This is pure awesomeness.

Thank you for your hard work.