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I heard people talking about how blizzard does not want to make classical pvp servers for Diablo3 but more like pvp where you can attack only those players that want to fight you... oO
What ever that sh*t is, I don't call it pvp, that's called dueling. They say pvp can ruin the game experience. My question is how can you talk about game experience if there's no pvp?
I mean I don't want to play the game where I must ask every stupid noob if I can kill him, wtf is that sh*t for? Why should I build my character if I can't use it to kill noobs in game? I don't want to play in single player and do stupid quests, that's boring. I want to play pvp, like in WoW. I don't want to play WoW for next 6 years, I want Diablo3, waiting for this game for so long and now if there is no pvp, wtf am I going to do? go questing? go kill stupid monsters? that's boring man.
If they need to make PVE servers for frp noobs fine, but there are lot of players expecting good PVP experience, so when I connect on battle.net I can go and pwn them, or get pwned, isn't that the point of multiplayer, competition? no?
Anyway, I enjoyed DiabloII even though real pvp never existed, but now its like 2009, you can't make a game without pvp... I mean why the f**k you make a game without pvp?
Any news about this matter? Is there any petition or feedback going on for this?
What you're describing is Blizzard's effort to prevent Ganking, and if that's the only fun part for you, then play something else. How are you going to get to kill someone higher than level 3 if you don't do the "boring" dungeons and monsters?
Here's a tip, asshat. Recognize that Diablo 3 is about PvE, and nothing you say is going to change that. If you really want to kill people that bad, try playing "Fury". It's a game where the only way to get XP and loot is to kill other players.
What you're describing is Blizzard's effort to prevent Ganking, and if that's the only fun part for you, then play something else. How are you going to get to kill someone higher than level 3 if you don't do the "boring" dungeons and monsters?
Here's a tip, asshat. Recognize that Diablo 3 is about PvE, and nothing you say is going to change that. If you really want to kill people that bad, try playing "Fury". It's a game where the only way to get XP and loot is to kill other players.
Diablo3 is not about pve, Diablo2 was about pve. I just find out that they intend to change pvp/pve a lot. They said they don't like pvp system from Diablo2 and that's enoguh for me to hear.
Also they said there will be no "enable/disable" PvP like in Diablo2, so things change my friend, their games are not for noobs.
In my opinion PVE is for players that are like some sort of lonely wolves in the frozen tundra imagining they are like heroes killing demons and sh*t while they play. oO
...so PVP is for people who like to compete and don't give a sh*t for frp. I guess blizz-north didn't know that when they were working on d2, but now d3 is in the right hands. Afteral PvP is the main reason why WoW is such a success.
Nah, I play only blizz games, no time for those you mentioned.
It sounds more like you want to pk than to PvP. If both people must agree to duel eachother, it will severely limit the use of hacks as well I think. If you encounter someone using hacks, just don't duel him. That way people who use hacks won't get to duel which would take out the fun of using them in the first place.
Also you will no longer be in danger of getting killed by a higher lvl character since you would have to agree on duelling him/her beforehand.
If you so much want to pk others, stick to D2 or WoW or whatever other game you like pking people in.
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It sounds more like you want to pk than to PvP. If both people must agree to duel eachother, it will severely limit the use of hacks as well I think. If you encounter someone using hacks, just don't duel him. That way people who use hacks won't get to duel which would take out the fun of using them in the first place.
Also you will no longer be in danger of getting killed by a higher lvl character since you would have to agree on duelling him/her beforehand.
If you so much want to pk others, stick to D2 or WoW or whatever other game you like pking people in.
It has been confirmed already, there will be no "enable/disable" thing from D2, so I don't care about that anymore. Check the latest interviews.
I don't play the game to pk lower lvl players, I never do that in wow, but when I want to kill someone I don't want to ask him if I can kill him, wtf is that sh*t for? I can't play like that.
Ofc I like to finish the quests and kill some monsters as well, but I don't want to do that the whole ****in year, pvp is just so much more exciting.
Maybe a good thing would be to add restrictions only when you try to attack someone who is 5 or more lvls lower than you. That would make some sense and it would stop killing lvling ppls.
But when you see the guy running around like noob at the same or even higher lvl than you, then why should you be restricted to attack him? It's a freedom of choice. If you don't like it then go play dungeon siege staff.
I mean you can't call it pvp if there are such restrictions like "you can't attack me if I don't let you do so" oO It's how noobish PVE works in wow, it's called dueling, not pvp-ing
OP ... Regardless of names ( and PvP means any mode where there is Player Vs Player action which applies to duels as well ) the PvP of D2 came with tons of problems and annoyances so it has to go ... and there will be PvP in D3 in a more controlled way to prevent lots of the things that ruined the D2 PvP gameplay for the majority of causal players ( exploits, hacks, PKers, .. etc etc ) and prevent them from dominating the PvP scene.
If you don't like it, simple .. go play D2 or some FPS shooter where you can blow up noobs as much as you want ... nobody is forcing you to buy D3.
Either way .. we don't know until now how will the PvP in D3 will work, so better save your breath until they confirm how PvP ( or duels if you like ) will work in D3.
PvP means any mode where there is Player Vs Player action which applies to duels as well.
Bravo!! You know the literal meaning of PvP, glad you figured it out, but I am not talking here about literal meaning of PvP.
Dueling is not considered PvP among gamers nor developers, you have dueling in every stupid PvE server, so no, that's not what makes server to be PvP.
WoW a succes because of its PvP?...........WHAT?????
WoW is highly PvE based and its PvP suck so much compare to other MMORPGS that focus on their PvP. Open world PvP (which you are describing that you want) is like non existant in WoW. You have to go into an Arena or BG to PvP...that is accepting to getting killed or kill others....A simular way could be done in D3.
I my self are one of the so called "noobs" you are referring to that don't care that much for PvP and playing on a PvE server in wow....and surprise....im really enjoying doing the PvE content...
And i don't get your point if you see a player that is new to the game, maybe the same level as you, but is a slower learner or just jumping around why they absoultly HAVE TO be killed just so you can boost your own ego and telling your self how great you are because you could take down a player that didnt know what he/she was doing in the game?
Let people have fun with the game the way they want to, not everyone enjoys PvPing, ganking, corpse camping etc....This may surprise you, but there actually are people who doesnt enjoy PvP.
So to sum up...You can still have a great PvP system in D3 even tho' you have to enter some kind of area or be PvP active/"flagged"...
But yeah im a big noob, have been playing since beta in WoW, have several high levels, dont have a clue what im doing in the game....and its very interesting that you dont comment on the fact that I pointed out your big **** up about saying WoW having succes because of its great great PvP system and *irony on* uber open world PvP.... *irony off".
But please explain to me how the element of competetion you are refering to ealier comes in when you kill a player that you know is going to die, because he is either lower level than you or you can see its a new player to the game?...because to me that doesnt seem like competion at all, more like you getting a stiffy.
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