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A large part of the Diablo II community plays the game purely to make PVP characters and duel with them. Several communities have an active playerbase with their own rules (since Diablo II isn't balanced for PVP) and participate in ranked ladders and special tournaments. Diablo as a game is quite good for a competitive game, because of the nice overview of the battle. But it has several problems in Diablo II.
I propose a Guild Wars PVP system to make Diablo III PVP eSports applicable where people can make maxed out characters and unlock items, prefixes etc on a specific realm. Diablo more than Guild Wars is suitable, because Guild Wars has less freedom to move. The problem with Diablo II is that items are too important and it makes it hard to just get into PVP, because you first need to make a PVP character with specific PVP items, sometimes very expensive items that new people just don't have. This makes it bad as an eSport.
World of Warcraft has the problem of mixed PVE and PVP, Blizzard balances something in PVP and it needs to be balanced in PVE at the same time, this is not very handy. Also, World of Warcraft is rock-paper-scissors based, which is not very smart, cause you in theory can never win as scissors playing versus rock. I'm very happy that Diablo III has only 5 classes, so balancing should be somewhat easy.
So, you make your maxed out character. Distribute your stats/skills and start with a basic equipment. While playing some matches you unlock credits that you can turn in at a NPC to unlock for example the King's prefix, or maybe you buy a Stone of Jordan for your character. Or maybe you want to be able to have another prefix on your item, so you can have 2 prefixes on that item instead of 1 (Rare instead of Magical). This way, while playing PVP you can get items not luck based, but skills (and time) based. You can have Random Team battles, or Arranged Team battles, Ranked Battles for ladder or just practice battles. Battle.net 2.0 will be able to do these things very handy. Also Blizzard can balance PVP and PVE separatly, so that if Fireball is to powerful in PVP they can just fix it for PVP. We need replays, live coverage, betting system (I bet 10.000 gold on this guy etc) and it will be very fun.
This way we can also have Diablo III tournaments at Blizzcon etc.
Maybe you guys think this looks too much like WoW Arena, and maybe it is. But I think Diablo's isometric view is far superior as a tactical action PVP system. Also the problems with WoW Arena (level new character to 70 or 80 in WOTKL, balancing in PVP changes gameplay in PVE and visa-versa, rock-paper-scissor model) make it less suitable. Blizzard can make a new fresh start at Diablo III and it will be a succes.
I did not read it all to be honest but sounds ok... I dont like the r/p/s idea same as you I think its poor form in PvP. I once played a game. It had 3 classes... War/Wizard/Tao(healer with pets) any class could be any class. You would always hear people arguing one was better than the other, but the game was more skillful than any other I played (ok there were other factors but I am not getting in to this)
It depends how they do it, if its going to be arena based. I for one will be sad if they remove random PKing(not sure if they have said this) if they do I will more than likely play Mortal, full PvP and full looting rules on a U3 engine
Go away with your eSport crap. The only sport here is the electron marathon inside the circuits.
No Kalgan in my D3. Kalgan can rock his S4 weapon within the first week in WoW all he wants.
Go away with your eSport crap. The only sport here is the electron marathon inside the circuits.
No Kalgan in my D3. Kalgan can rock his S4 weapon within the first week in WoW all he wants.
You sir sound very bitter. If you actually read my post you see that I don't force anything on you, because I suggest a different realm. See it as a different game within the Diablo III package, a game where people can go against each other in isometric view. You can stay slaying Lucifer, Beelzebub, Iblis or whatever with your friends, like I will the first couple of times I start a character. But when the random dungeons don't seem that random anymore, I will turn to PVP. And Diablo is actually a very good basic template for a competitive game.
I am not bitter. But the balance will fail. Diablo is in essence a PvE game, stated multiple times. You know, the "cooperative" word in a lot of posts Blue said. And then adding Arena so Blizzard can Kalganize the classes? No, thanks.
I am not bitter. But the balance will fail. Diablo is in essence a PvE game, stated multiple times. You know, the "cooperative" word in a lot of posts Blue said. And then adding Arena so Blizzard can Kalganize the classes? No, thanks.
What if he can only Kalganize the PVP characters like I said, he doesn't need to balance PVP and at the same time make sure PVE stays balanced and visa-versa if PVE and PVP happens in different realms. Frozen Orb too imba in PVP? Change it for PVP characters only.
What if he can only Kalganize the PVP characters like I said, he doesn't need to balance PVP and at the same time make sure PVE stays balanced and visa-versa if PVE and PVP happens in different realms. Frozen Orb too imba in PVP? Change it for PVP characters only.
Such things Blizzard won't do or they would already have done so in WoW. Trust me. Arena in WoW has a slightly different ruleset. Having two distinct rulesets is too much work to balance.
leave it alone I say. its already perfect. the only thing they need to change in diablo regarding pvp is they need to patch the tp pk hack once and for all. I wouldnt mind the ability to change the resolution to say 1280x1024 however. and some new items would be appreciated. It would be ghey to have the ability to just buy a soj from gheed or whoever, items like that are special because they are so rare. So what if u dont have the GG gear? Boo Hoo! play the game and find it. or buy it online.
Anet started seperating pvp and pve skill properties shortly before the release of NF, with the addition of pve only skills, and completed the switch post EoTN by fixing many popular skills to have different effects in pvm and pvp. This isn't difficult; balance for pve, and make changes for pvp as necessary when in pvp areas. I think I've said everything I have to say on pvp only characters already elsewhere.
leave it alone I say. its already perfect. the only thing they need to change in diablo regarding pvp is they need to patch the tp pk hack once and for all. I wouldnt mind the ability to change the resolution to say 1280x1024 however. and some new items would be appreciated. It would be ghey to have the ability to just buy a soj from gheed or whoever, items like that are special because they are so rare. So what if u dont have the GG gear? Boo Hoo! play the game and find it. or buy it online.
You do realise that this is talk about D3 and not D2 right?
Btw buying items online is just a way to support dupers which help ruin the game (both lagwise and economicly). But that's not what this thread is about.
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