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The issue was brought up to Jay Wilson in a new interview on Gamespy, and though he didn't reveal anything (we'll find out first from SC2's beta), it's worth debating.
GameSpy: World of Warcraft essentially evolved out of Diablo II in many ways, but by its very nature never required a Battle.net-style system to keep its communities connected. Can you speak about how you plan to implement Diablo III into the upcoming version of Battle.net?
Jay Wilson, Lead Designer: One thing you mentioned is [how WoW was an evolution of Diablo II]. One of the things that we have people comment on a lot is, they say, "Oh, you're doing that, just like World of Warcraft!" And we're like, "yeah, but they took all that stuff from Diablo." There is very much an evolution. We learn from every game. There's stuff we pull from StarCraft, and they pull from us as well. We tend to look at games in general that we think are good, and we just happen to like our own games as well.
In terms of Battle.net features, to answer your question... we're kind of waiting for a big unveiling to announce a lot of the new features. I don't want to steal their thunder by talking about those features, but what I can talk about is the intent behind them -- to create the best online experience that you will find in gaming, and really support the Blizzard community. We think we have the greatest community in the world. They're wonderful people, they're great gamers, and they really love the community. What we want is for it to be easier for them to be together. Easier for them to talk to one another, easier for them to play games together, easier for them to find each other, no matter what they're doing. That's really the core goal behind the new Battle.net.
GameSpy: Lots of games are doing the social networking thing -- a good example is Battlefield Heroes. Can we expect social networking functionality on that level in the new Battle.net?
Jay Wilson: Maybe!
I think it's fairly clear they're going to be adding more social networking elements to B.net 2.0. They've got the cross-game achievements coming soon, they've said there will be major forum upgrades and integration into their games, and they're going to be pushing for users to have one central account, which will boost your profile and reduce your anonymity. Most online scams and cheats and hacks come because there's no accountability -- if you've got your name and a credit card attached to your Battle.net account, I think it's safe to say you'll be a lot less eager to try out the new map hack or item duping program.
Yeah, the Battle.net community is the biggest paradoxical mind**** I've ever witnessed. You've got fantastic guys actually working for Battle.net and Blizzard and all that, great management of things, the service is pretty good (too laggy for my taste), then the people, the players, are like these hideous mole people that can only speak in racial slurs. And Blizzard coddles and cares for this community, touting it as the best. Like a mother tending to her elephant-man child. They're rarely wonderful people, as Jay Wilson says.
So it's for that reason I'm not too sure I want them making me be "closer" with the rest of the community. Nor am I fond of just this whole "Either you play single player or you play with everyone" thing they're doing with the announcement of no LAN/TCPIP. If I want to play with strangers, I play stuff like Team Fortress 2 where they're actually decent human beings 90% of the time.
Hmmm...
Need second Medic milestone...
Speaking fairly, I may give the Diablo 3 community a try when the game comes out. But if they still haven't matured by then, I give up. :P
I've not met many racists or stupid people, everyone's just... meh. I don't want to know them and want them to know me. I don't care if Blizzard must have some personal information though.To a point.
to create the best online experience that you will find in gaming, and really support the Blizzard community.
I think that quote scares me more than any other, even the related no LAN quote. The more they talk the more I get the impression that SC2 and D3 are supposed to be selling bnet 2 and not the other way around.
I seems like they're trying to get their bnet2 foot in the door and the games are the means and not the ends.
Not from a development and marketing standpoint.
Blizzard will have 2 new games that make use of the new battlenet. Each game will almost guaranteed get an expansion or two. And future games can also make use of battlenet.
...then the people, the players, are like these hideous mole people that can only speak in racial slurs. And Blizzard coddles and cares for this community, touting it as the best. Like a mother tending to her elephant-man child.
If we had forum points I'd give you some for this one. I eloeled and scared my cat. I've talked to various Bliz CMs in the past and whenever they've mentioned applying for a CM position I say I wouldn't want to live in Irvine (which is true) but mostly I couldn't stand reading the battle.net forums for a living. They'd have to pay me in heroin, Tanqueray, and Japanese hookers for that. And that's not even mentioning having to deal with the junior high mentality and constant fanboy drama that goes on behind the scenes with the fansites.
Blizzard's hosting a little fansite party the first night of BlizCon, and I'm actually looking forward to it, if only to meet face to face some of the people I've been stolen from, done my best to destroy, and been despised by for so many years. I hope there will be drinks!
If we had forum points I'd give you some for this one. I eloeled and scared my cat. I've talked to various Bliz CMs in the past and whenever they've mentioned applying for a CM position I say I wouldn't want to live in Irvine (which is true) but mostly I couldn't stand reading the battle.net forums for a living. They'd have to pay me in heroin, Tanqueray, and Japanese hookers for that. And that's not even mentioning having to deal with the junior high mentality and constant fanboy drama that goes on behind the scenes with the fansites.
Blizzard's hosting a little fansite party the first night of BlizCon, and I'm actually looking forward to it, if only to meet face to face some of the people I've been stolen from, done my best to destroy, and been despised by for so many years. I hope there will be drinks!
The mods and CMs just need to actually enforce the rules and Blizzard need to higher more mods. It is intolerable that some of the crap and spam stays on the official forum for hours without any actions and sanctions taken. It is Blizzards fault for not properly moderating their forum.
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