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Old 11-07-2008, 05:45   #1
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I can already guess DIII's plot.

So what exactly happened, why did Tyrael decided to destroy the Worldstone?

My theory is that by destroying the worldstone, as it's pretty obvious that there are going to have 2 factions (Burning Hells and High Heavens), Tyrael would allow the path for the High Heavens to take over the Sanctuary (human's world).

Is Tyrael evil ? : No, he's just from another faction, from the Heavens! But no one told Heaven wouldn't try and take over Sanctuary (DIII's concept).

Twenty years gap : So, what have demons done for 20 years? They're still not out over all the Sanctuary? I guess they've been fighting Heaven VS Hell style as they're in an eternal war, and both try to take over the Sanctuary. They're simply busy killing eachother.

Tyrael is lost ? : So there might be a theory involving that Tyrael is lost. Prior to this, let's assume that there are still two big bosses down in Hell, Azmodan and Belial. They might have captured him, we might have to rescue him. Then, bash the two other demons and then bash Tyrael because at the end we notice that Heaven also tried to take over Sanctuary. Crazy world...

Will we fight another Diablo? : This is not possible. Soulstones carry demons. We destroyed Meph's and Big D's soulstone (D's one was destroyed in a cinematic). But what happened to Baal's? If it hasn't been destroyed in the Hellforge, it's still possible that he might revive (however I admit that the explosion at the end of DII:LoD was pretty big and the soulstone could've just been carried away in this...). I'm not going anywhere telling this... just bringing it up.

So, in short. DIII: We're going down in hell (or hell comes to us?:P). Bash hell. Heaven take over. Bash Haven.
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:32   #2
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

Dude, try to read to other subjects on this.
This is how the Soulstones work (at least people pretty much agree on it).
If a Greater Evil died in Sanctuary, his soul would be sent back to Hell.
However, with the soul tied to a soulstone, it would be sent back into that.
Heaven believed that from within the soulstones the greater evils couldnt do anything. But Izual betrayed Heavens and told The greater evils about the soulstones secrets, so that they indeed could influence the world around them.
So indeed it is possible to fight diablo once again. And what game would it be without? probably a great one, but a wrong one.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:11   #3
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

Deckard Cain says "destroying the soulstone is the only way to ensure Mephisto will not return to our world".
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:14   #4
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

Most of your guesses go against stuff that we know to be fact, so no...
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Old 11-07-2008, 15:42   #5
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

Indeed, when Cain gives you the Hellforge quest:
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The time has come for you to destroy Mephisto's Soulstone! Take the Stone to the Hellforge. Place it upon the forge and strike it soundly with the Hammer. Only by doing this can you prevent Mephisto from manifesting in this world ever again.
So yes, it will cast him back into the Burning Hells, presumably. However, remember that the Worldstone still exists at this point, hence he'd be unable to return. With the worldstone gone...

I guess it's sometimes a bit much to ask people to prowl through all the lengthy threads that already exist, but, for those who've been hanging around more-or-less since the announcement, it's becoming boring to re-iterate what the destruction of the Worldstone might mean, and that Big D's soulstone was not necessarily destroyed.
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Old 11-07-2008, 17:17   #6
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

I don't buy this not-destroyed thing. I mean, yeah, sure, Marius says "I later heard"... but he says that in reference to Mephisto's as well. I think they put it into cinematic just because it would suck so badly for you to have killed Diablo, and then haul *** back to the Hellforge to smash the soulstone - when most likely you've already killed everyone along the way. It seems a pretty obvious thing to do, anyway. Can you imagine Tyrael or Cain, sitting there at the Pandemonium Fortress, completely forgetting that you should smash Diablo's soulstone?

So yeah, while TECHNICALLY we don't know 100% for sure. I think it's a very fair assumption to make. I mean whoever finished D2 and said "BUT WAIT, WHAT HAPPENED TO DIABLO'S SOULSTONE!??!" It's only now that you're talking about D3 that people decide to doubt every single little thing. It would make so little sense for them to turn around and tell us that we didn't *actually* destroy his soulstone after all.
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Old 11-07-2008, 17:39   #7
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

I concur with Tsumaru. I think assuming diablo's stone is not destroyed is taking an omission for gameplays sake too far and Marius's choice of words too strictly. I doubt Blizzard is concerned with irrevocably proving diablo's soulstone destruction, espcially considering it may very well be rendered moot by the destruction of the worldstone.

As for the OP, your guesses contradict much of the cannon so I believe your thread title statement to be inncorrect.
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Old 12-07-2008, 00:25   #8
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

i keep reading talk about "will diablo return" or "will meph,baal, whoever return", i wonder if anyone has considered that maybe they themselves have not returned at all. just cause they are not back in our world does not mean we wont fight them though. maybe diablo is in hell sending other demons out and as we fight our way through them all it becomes clear that we must venture into hell to destroy diablo(again) to end his reign of terror.

not saying this is my idea of what will happen just something i quickly thought up to point out that, they dont have to "return" for us to have to fight them
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Old 12-07-2008, 16:48   #9
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

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Dude, try to read to other subjects on this.
This is how the Soulstones work (at least people pretty much agree on it).
If a Greater Evil died in Sanctuary, his soul would be sent back to Hell.
Yes, well I was aware of this but I think it's pretty foolish. I mean, why would Deckhard Cain send us to the Hellforge (aka IN HELL), to destroy Mephisto's soulstone and just make him revive there, right beside of you?

The theory of reviving demons after the soulstones are broken wasn't really the main thing I wanted to bring in there. The thing is actually more that High Heavens might want to take over the Sanctuary as well.

Anyways, back to soulstones since we're on that topic, I will need some backup for the facts I will bring here (am I correct?). Weren't they the horadrims who created the use of soulstones to contain demons (Cain)? Then, Cain asks us to break the soulstones in Hellforge, it's not as if you would break it anywhere where the demon's soul could be unleashed. By the fact that Cain tells you to destroy especially at THIS place with THAT hammer, I'm pretty sure it was meant to get rid of the demons, forever.
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Old 12-07-2008, 18:07   #10
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Re: I can already guess DIII's plot.

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Yes, well I was aware of this but I think it's pretty foolish. I mean, why would Deckhard Cain send us to the Hellforge (aka IN HELL), to destroy Mephisto's soulstone and just make him revive there, right beside of you?

The theory of reviving demons after the soulstones are broken wasn't really the main thing I wanted to bring in there. The thing is actually more that High Heavens might want to take over the Sanctuary as well.

Anyways, back to soulstones since we're on that topic, I will need some backup for the facts I will bring here (am I correct?). Weren't they the horadrims who created the use of soulstones to contain demons (Cain)? Then, Cain asks us to break the soulstones in Hellforge, it's not as if you would break it anywhere where the demon's soul could be unleashed. By the fact that Cain tells you to destroy especially at THIS place with THAT hammer, I'm pretty sure it was meant to get rid of the demons, forever.
Well, the soulstones are not just a piece of glass that you can destroy by stamping on it. Look at it like The Ring in Lord of the Rings. it had to be destroyed in Mt. Doom.

Also, its not like when their souls was released from the soulstone, they would just appear again in the real demon form right besides them. They lost those bodies when they was first captured into the stones. Therefore my guess is that after the stones were destroyed, they became some sorts of spirits, in need of building up there strength.
(kinda like in LOTR with Sauron)
And this would also explain the 20 years that have passed.



But anyways, if your real point was about the hell / heaven thing. Im kinda with you there. but not for D3, i think that a MMO is on its way, probably 3-5 years away. But it'll be in the Realms of Hell, Sanctuary and Heaven. And those three factions will be playable. The story is build for something like this i think. However, its just a speculation.
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