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Going to build a bvb, and was planning on going my normal route (naga). I sat down and took a seroius look at bhammers, and from the looks of it they blow nagas out of the water. 10 higher average damage, higher minimum damage, same range/speed doesnt matter, only drawback is they require more str. Which I can easily make up for. Hell, I could even end up with a nice -req bhammer. Normally I went the axe route because theres so many bsnap barbs out there that Id rather go with style (ancient axe = sexxay), but im wondering why the naga even holds a candle to the bhammer. Oh, and I hate exec swords.
Battle hammers have the lower str (100) and naga requires more (121).
In classic, weapon speed isnt a factor in ww hits. You always hit max regardless.
Battle hammer stats: 35-58 base dmg; 46.5 average dmg; speed (not that it matters) 20; range 1.
Naga stats: 16-45 base dmg; 30.5 average dmg; speed (not important) 0; range 3.
So a naga has more range, less dmg and more str req. Naga is very nice because it has a better chance of hitting 6 (or 7? not sure max amount of hits per target) times because you hit before the battlehammer is even in range, and after the battlehammer is out of range. If they get 4 hits per ww, and you land 6, that more then makes up for the lesser dmg of the naga.
Cold dmg is more helpful to battlehammers, (especially if you both get affected by cold) because it gives them more time to make their hits, so a better chance of landing more hits. Thus if your going naga, I suggest no cold damage to make the most of your range.
A lot of damage in bvb is due to open wounds, so if you are wise, you will try and drag the fight out, letting open wounds do its work.
Another nice thing about axes is that you can be bva with the stats of a normal bvb naga barb because ancient axes only require 125 str.
I recommend having 61 str on a naga bvb barb. The rest should go into vit. Use a 3 socketed perf amethest helm (30 str), twitch (10 str) and a 20 str belt. That gives you 121 strength.
If you want to change to bva, get yourself an ancient axe, use the 20 str belt, 10+str on your rings, ~10 str on gloves and fill the rest out with str on an ammy. For bva you need good res, so try to get some of those str items with nice res (in particular, light res and cold res). As for all bva, keep a hawkmail in your invent for dueling cold sorcs, and I would recommend blinkbat for all others. 30 frw boots with nice lr and cr are best.
A barb is very gear dependant, and a bvb/bva hybrid more so then most. The beaty is you can do well vs all chars then. You truly are a bva (that includes the bvb which most bva's cant handle).
Setup for naga bvb as follows:
Helm - 3 socket helm, socketed with perfect amethests.
Ammy/Rings - Angelics
Armour - Twitchthroe (that correct spelling?) (unique studded leather armour)
Shield - Swordback hold (unique spiked shield)
Boots - Goblin toe (unique light plated boots)
Gloves - Bloodfist (unique heavy gloves)
Belt - A nice rare belt w/ 20 str, life, fhr
Weapon - A nice rare Naga w/ high ed (adds fire dmg good mod too)
Setup for ancient axe bva as follows:
Helm - Nice rare helm w/ fhr, (two of lr, cr or fr) and life
Ammy - Rare amulet with +skills, prizmatic, (str or life good too)
Rings - Rare rings with high str and res
Armour - Hawkmail vs cold sorcs, Blinkbat vs all others
Boots - Rare bootws w/ 30 frw, good lr and cr res.
Gloves - Rare gloves adding to str and res (mana leech a bonus, ias not used)
Belt - A nice rare belt w/ 20 str, life, fhr and res (life and fhr not needed as much as res and str)
Weapon - A nice rare Naga w/ high ed (adds fire dmg good mod too)
**Optional**
Weapon - A nice rare Naga w/ high ed (adds fire dmg good mod too)
Shield - Stacked res shield (3 sock ptopaz for lr or psaph for cr) or priz 30/20
So thats what I would use for a barb with 61 str, rest in vit. If you were to go Bhammer for bvb, then you should use a belt that has nice str and cold dmg, and a high dmg bhammer. Also you could get away with 40 str instead of 61 for naga.
A high ED Naga also costs alot more than a Bhammer with the same mods.
For instance, a 140 naga is godly in terms of ED% while a 140 BH is considered junk.
I would consider making a bhammer baba, they are easier to achieve in terms of finding the right bhammer and can also give you the added life bonuses (2 hits vs more hp cancels out eachother)
And if you can afford a 140 naga, you can afford most of the common dupes floating around.
160% ED+ Naga or 160% ED+ Bhammer
Helm : Cruel Visage // Hailstone Casque for 1 soj
Ammy : Hclasp for 1 soj
Rings : Bturns // Scoils for 1/2 soj each
Boots : Gtoes for pskulls
Armor : Twitch for pskulls
Shield : Sback for pskulls
Gloves : Gfingers for 1 soj
The only set back is to have to wait until lvl 46 to wear most the items...
I'm talking ladder. And while a same ed Naga might be more expensive then a same ed Bham, its much of a muchness.
Expect to pay around the same ammount for a godly Naga/Hammer in the 180+ed range. (ladder) As always, the weapons mods are a big factor in determining worth. Nat fire/poison (cold for bhams), high ar, str or life, adds min, max or x-y are all very good mods.
Especially adds x-y dmg. Everyone I've talked to tells me they owne people with better dmg weapons, because of the mod. I'm not sure whats the deal here, but thats what I've been told.
It all depends on the skill the player has more than the weapon mostly. You can find actual bvb chars using gnasher axe because bvb is so much of a mess right now.
I've noticed in west no one really uses tactics lol. We just ww each other continuously until one dies or runs.
If you were using tactics, you would ww to the left (if you had naga) while someone with bham was wwing at you, so your range would be useful. I still maintain that naga > bham, especially in a skillful duelers hands.
using gnasher gives you 100% open wounds, I suppose you could get away with it in a duel, but not in a high lvl duel.
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