Need Pvp Baba Guide

[longwood]

I recently obtained my 1st Eth Death Cleaver Beserker Axe. With my new item I am seriously contemplating making a Pvp baba. I have never made one and I need some serious help. What I'm thinking is posted below

Zod'd Eth Death Cleaver
Up'd Arreats Face
Up'd Gore Riders
Perfect Verdungos
Perfect Steelrends
Angelic Ammy and Rings ???? (Not sure here)
SS
Enigma Sacrad Armor??? (Not sure here either)
Charms-max/ar/life gc's and sc's ???? anny as well naturally


Skills (this is where I'm having problems, I'm thinking concentrate/ww barb but I honestly doesn't even know if this will work, I imagine it would)

These are skills I'm sure of atm at least:
Max Shout
Max BO
Max Mastery

Stats probably will look like
Strength - enough to wear gear
Dex - Enough for max block
Vit - All rest here
Energy - does anyone really put stuff here :scratch:

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Longwood

[illa]

200% 6% Upgraded Arreats
200% Upgraded Gore Ryders
Enigma Dusk Shroud
Stormshield Um'ed
Perfect Verdungos
Angelic Ring x2 + Amu for people with high defence
Highlords, 2x 250 20 raven frosts for normal
Perfect Verdungos
Perfect Steelrends

Charms

40 3/20 max/ar 20 life
Max warcry 4x life or
Max masterys 4x life

Skills:

1 increased stamina
1 increased speed
1 iron skin (max at the end)
1 natural resistance
20 Axe mastery
20 Whirlwind
20 BO
20 Shout
1 berzerk (optional)

Stats:
Enough for gear preferably around 57 str + anni which = 77 str enough for dusk shroud..
Dex enough for block around 200 put points in it gradually
Vita, everything else
Mana none...

[longwood]

Doesn't look too bad illa, the only thing that I would like to see is the concentrate skill used in some sort of fashion b/c I want to melee, ww is controversial

[illa]

Why would WW be controversial its the only skill that completely owns PVP for barb Conc sucks and is too slow. Berzerk gives you no defence

[longwood]

Originally Posted by illa

Why would WW be controversial its the only skill that completely owns PVP for barb Conc sucks and is too slow. Berzerk gives you no defence

I see your point, but cocentrate with the IAS from the death cleaver would reach 10fpa/2.5aps. Now I'm not sure how fast that is, using the highlords wouldn't reach the next bp therefore I would have to come up with 25% more IAS(probably not worth it). I'm thinking Concentrate for melee battles, ie against zealots

I like this Illa, I want to be convinced that WW is the way to go 100% and not to even worry about concentrate

[illa]

Zealots are no match for a good whirler, only thing that this is hard to kill for this build is a lifetap smiter, pvp necro and an elemental druid on occasion plus builds with a ****load of defence.

For barb vs. barb attack rating and defence says is what matters most, you have to be hitting him more but since the death cleaver has a good chance of doing extra damage it's considered best for BvB but for anything else I'd still suggest BOTD Zerker.

Conc is a crappy skill and theres a reason people don't use it for pvp imo..

[spencert]

Major consensus is that WW is a melee. The minority that doesnt are either sour grapes (because they are neither WW or smite) or people who are too stubborn. Some even said WW is a standalone class. Does this means that a WW barb can only duel BvB?

You cant please everyone no matter what you do. If you waste points in concentrate... you will end up with an inferior built and ultimately frustrating yourself. Please yourself 1st. :yep:

[longwood]

You guys have convinced me to go ww and nothing else. Illia and Spencert thank you for your time and valuable input. Now I just have to finish exams so I can build the sucker, wish me luck

Longwood

[LeTHaL_BaNaNa]

good luck ^^