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Old 04-05-2004, 11:48   #1
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PvP Zons

Can they compete anymore? Don't they just get killed in one hit?
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Old 04-05-2004, 12:18   #2
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i take it you mean bowazons? yes, they can compete they can take on any char but the ones they have most problems with ( imo ) are smiters ( if they fast/use tele ) chargers ( nuff said ) and foh palas. all other chars are easy :lol:

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Old 04-05-2004, 12:31   #3
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If you add a jav and shield and a secondary jav skill, they can take on un-godly chargers/zealers...

If you give yourself stacked resists + absorb, you can take on fohers.

However, they are hopeless against elemental druids/necros with engima.

Engima not allowed in CH? Well, I have no idea in that case, since no one in CH duels on ladder... arg.
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Old 04-05-2004, 13:21   #4
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Yeh my bad I mean Bowazons. Don't they just die in one hit? Even with say 1k life, 50%dr and say slightly positive res in hell, don't they just get spat on by 40k Meteors? I haven't dueled since 1.09, but from what I see playing non-dueling games, I don't want to be the zon on the end of that Meteor/Fireball/Blizzard/Bone Spear/Hammer/FoH/etc...

Can they actually survive for more than 3 secs?
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Old 04-05-2004, 14:56   #5
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My pvp bowzon (ladder east) does just fine, foh'ers aren't that much of a problem... chargers hurt and a good nec is impossible with their godly bone armor they just recast and can tank you for a long time. I have had mixed results against wind druids, if they are big on expoiting the minion bug then it can be tough, otherwise and can pretty much split with them. Good, fast, tele barbs can also be a problem sometimes (or any melee char with a doom weapon). Overall I think they do just fine. Just don't stand still long and be able to shoot fast. I have about 1.6k life with my cta and do 3.7k damage ga.
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Old 04-05-2004, 19:05   #6
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Yeh my bad I mean Bowazons. Don't they just die in one hit? Even with say 1k life, 50%dr and say slightly positive res in hell, don't they just get spat on by 40k Meteors? I haven't dueled since 1.09, but from what I see playing non-dueling games, I don't want to be the zon on the end of that Meteor/Fireball/Blizzard/Bone Spear/Hammer/FoH/etc...

Can they actually survive for more than 3 secs?
are you used to tanking everything everyone throws at you? ..... hmm.... i wonder why. fb is easy to dodge manuelly and also can be dodged with yoru doge skill. if you keep on the move and if you have a lot of frw it's extremely difficulty for the fb sorc to hit you. while your gas track and can kill her in a few hits. blizzard can be beaten too although name lock blizz can cause some trouble even for a fast zon. bone spear is easy to dodoge like fb unless they use lame prison on you. and hammerdins are one of the easiest class for bow zons they just won't be able to hit u. foh can be beaten from off screen it will hurt if you dont' stack res though.
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Old 04-05-2004, 22:56   #7
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i duel alot with a bowazon and the only problems i have is when i get desynced by chargers or sometimes i get killed by minion stacking

otherwise, i can usually beat most chars. i have like -80 all resist, 15 or 40 dr (depending if i wear gaze or not).
i do about 7k max dmg ga with wf, 4k max with cruel ward
i have about 1.6-1.8k life depending on what rings i wear (with cta)

even with low resist, i can take about 2-3 fohs...if they can hit me
fb is easy to dodge, same with lighting

they r still very good for dueling if u have the rite stuff
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Old 04-05-2004, 23:51   #8
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i duel alot with a bowazon and the only problems i have is when i get desynced by chargers or sometimes i get killed by minion stacking

otherwise, i can usually beat most chars. i have like -80 all resist, 15 or 40 dr (depending if i wear gaze or not).
i do about 7k max dmg ga with wf, 4k max with cruel ward
i have about 1.6-1.8k life depending on what rings i wear (with cta)

even with low resist, i can take about 2-3 fohs...if they can hit me
fb is easy to dodge, same with lighting

they r still very good for dueling if u have the rite stuff
ya i noticed a lot of 1.10 zons doing obecene ammounts of damage seem like over 1 k damage per shot even with full dr, and a fast moving zon for some reason desynches as badly as a charger. cant't ell where they are whatsoever. like they are walking through time portals one after another.
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Old 05-05-2004, 00:56   #9
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...and a fast moving zon for some reason desynches as badly as a charger. cant't ell where they are whatsoever. like they are walking through time portals one after another.
Ahh, you hit upon the secret of my zon (besides the mass poision). Speed. I can even use that speed to outrun some boneprisions cast at me. I am pusing the 170% FRW right now, I wonder what I would get at 200%? Everything I wear is light, so no penalty in equipment.
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Old 05-05-2004, 01:30   #10
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I have seen good zons do pretty well in duels, but I'll tell you right now that I have yet to meet one that can beat my bone necro consistently.

The classes I've seen kill zons the most are:
1) Necros
2) Wind Druids (minion stackers)
3) Charger/smiters
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