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Old 01-09-2009, 09:38   #1
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Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

its a bit late in the ladder, but i have the free time now to do this.
more or less, i'll use Erwwwd's structure
prices are meant to be guidelines, not facts

after upping non-elite armor pieces def can varie, so does the value...
perfect (upps or stats) raise value drasticly

NOTE: 1 of any variable less than perfect is not considered perfect!!!

while reading use ur two senses
a 19 19 pala torch is ofc worth more than ist

Edit: i won´t be able to update this thread any further with my own experience. i will need more feedback in the future from u guys, to keep the prices accurate. if u find something outdated, post it here with new price suggestion. most likely i will change the prices according to ur estimations. plz check the date of the last update, to see how long i did not change anything

i'll use the following system:

prices will be divided: non eth | eth
e.g. titans random: pgs | ist

critic, suggestions, adds etc welcome

1. Runes
2. Packs
3. Uniqs
4. Sets
5. Magics
6. Charms
7. Socketables
8. Runewords
9. Jools
10. LLD-Items

Currency

Pul = 30-35 PG's = 2 Lem
Ist = 2-3 Pul = Um+Lem - Um+Pul
gul = um - um+lem
Mal = Hr (Vex+) = 2.5-4 Pul

1. Runes

Nef - 1-2 PG
Ith - 1-2 PG
Ral ~ 1-2 PG
Ort ~ 1-2 PG
Thul ~ 1-2 PG
Amn ~ 1-2 PG
Sol ~ 2-3 PG

The above runes are worth more in large packs

Shael ~ 2-3 PG
Dol ~ 2-3 PG
Hel ~ 6 PG
Io ~ 2-3 PG
Lum ~ 2-3 PG
Ko ~ 6 PG
Fal ~ 3 PG
Lem ~ 15 PG
Pul ~ 30-35 PG

2. Packs

20 Ral ist
20 PRubies um
20 PAmes ist
60 Jools ist
Spirit Pack incl Hel lem-pul
3x3 um
Organset Ist

3. Uniqs

Helmets

Arreats Face PG's-Lem | Pul
Arreats 190+ Pul | Ist-Hr

Andariels Visage Lem-pul | Ist+
Andy 30 / 10 Ist | 8+ Hr

Harlequin´s Crest (Shako) Lem-Pul
Shako 140 Ist
Shako 141 2 Ist

Vampire Gaze PG's-Lem | Pul
Gaze 20 DR Pul-Ist | 3+ Hr

Jalala´s Mane PG's-Lem
Jalal 190+ ed pul
Jalal 200 ed 2 Ist

Nightwings Veil pgs
Nightwings 15% 2-3 Ist

Crown of Ages 1 Soc pul-ist
CoA 2 Soc 4+ Hr
CoA 2 Soc 15% DR 10+ Hr

Griffon´s Eye 3-5 Hr
Griffons 15% 8+ Hr
Griffons 20 / 15 20+ Hr

Crown of Thieves pgs | pul-ist
CoT 100% Eg Ist | 2 Ist

Kira´s Guardian pgs
Kiras 70@ Ist+

Amus

Cats Eye Lem
Highlord Wrath lem-pul
Seraphim´s Psalm Pul
Metalgrid Pul
Metalgrid 35 @ 2 Ist
Metalgrid 450ar / 35 @ 4+ Hr
Mara's Kaleidoscope 20-28 1-5 Ist
Mara 29+ 6+ Ist

Rings

Nagel 30% Pul
SoJ The Stone of Jordan 3 Ist
Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band 3ll Ist
Bk4 Ist Um
Bk5 2 Ist
Raven Frost 20 Dex Pul
Raven 20 Dex / 235+ Ar Ist
Raven Perfect 20 / 250 8+ Ist
Wisp Projector Low Pul
Wisp Med Um
Wisp 20% 3+ Ist

Armor

Skullder´s Ire PG's-Lem | Ist
Arkaines Valor 2 Sk Um
Tyrael´s Might 10+ Ist
Templar´s Might Ist | 3+ Ist
Ormus Robes 3 Es Pul
Ormus 15% Cold 3 Blizz 5+ Ist
Ormus 15% Fire 3 Fb 2+ Ist
Ormus 15% Light 3 Light |3+ Ist
Skin of the Vipermagi 30+ Pul
Viper 35 Ist
Guardian Angel Pgs | Ist

Shields

Homunculus PG's-Lem
Homunculus 195+ ed Um
Herald of Zakarum Um | Ist
HoZ/Zaka 190+ 2+ Ist | 3+ Ist
Stormshield lem-pul
Darkforce Spawn +3 PB 2+ Ist
Head Hunters Glory 3 soc Ist

Weapons

Wizzardspike PG's-Lem
Oculus Lem
Death Web Ist
Death Web +2 Skill 2 Ist
Death Web +2 Skill / -48+%psn 5+ Ist
Tombreaver 3 Sockets pul | 5+ Ist
Eshutas 3 Pul | Ist
Eshutas 3 / 20 ( Light / Fire ) 2+ Ist | 3+ Ist
Death Fathom 2 Ist | 3 Ist
Death Fathom 25+ 4+ Ist | 8+ Ist
Windforce Ist+
Grandfather Um
Stormlash Um-Ist
Hone Sundan 190+ ed pgs | 2+ Ist
Reapers Toll pgs | um+
Schaefer's Hammer 1-2 Ist
Death Cleaver Ist | 4+ Ist
Thunderstroke 4 Skills Pul
Thunderstroke 4 190+ Ist+
Titans Revenge PG's-Lem | Ist
Titans 190+ pul+ | 4+ Ist
Widowmaker 5 Ga Ist+

Gloves

Magefist 30 ed pul
Bloodfist 20 ed pul
Chance Guard 40 mf pul
Draculs Grasp pul
Draculs 15 Str Ist
Draculs 15 Str / 10 ll 2+ Ist
Steelrends Pul
Steelrends 60ed 3+ Ist

Belts

Arachnid´s Mesh Pul-Um
Arach 110+ ed Ist+
Verdungo´s Hearty Cord Random pul
Verdungo 15 Dr Ist
Verdungo 15% Dmg Red / 40 Vita 5+ Ist
Thundergod Vigor Random pgs
Thundergod Perfect Ist
Nosferatus Coil lem-pul
String of Ears pgs
SoE 8 ll 15 Dr Um
Razortail Lem

Boots

War Traveler 30-40 mf pul
Wt 41-49 mf Ist
Wt 50 mf 2 Ist
Shadowdancers Ist
Shadowdancers 1 Skill / 22+ Dex 2+ Ist
Shadowdancers 2 Skill / 22+ Dex 6+ Ist
Sandstorm Treks Lem | Ist
Treks 15 Vita / 15 Str 2 Ist | 8+ Ist
Waterwalk Lem
Waterwalk 60+ Life Ist+
Gorerider Lem
Gorerider 190+ ed Um
Gorerider 200 ed 2 Ist
Hotspurs Ist

4. Sets

Tal Rasha complete ~Ist
amu ~pul
armor ~um

IK Immortal King complete ~Ist
armor ~um

5. Magics

Helmets

5 Bo 1 Socket helm Um
5 Bo 2 Socket helm 4+ Ist
6 Bo 1 Socket helm 8+ Ist
6 Bo 2 Socket helm 20+ Ist

3 Socket 30 Frw 30+ Ist
3 Socket 20 Frw 10+ Ist
3 Socket 75+ Life Tiara 10+ Ist
3 Socket 30 Str/Dex 10+ Ist
3 Socket 20 Fcr 5+ Ist

3 elemental 20 fcr 2 soc 4+ Ist
3 Fire/Cold / 20 Fcr / 2 Soc 8+ Ist
3 Poison Bone/Light / 20 Fcr / 2 Soc 15+ Ist

2 Assa/Sorc/Pala/Druid/Necro 20 fcr 5+ Ist
3 Fire/Cold/Light/PB/Elemental 75+ Life 2 Sockets 6+ Ist
2 druid 20 Fcr 2 Sockets 8+ Ist
3 Trap/PCombat/Summon 75+ Life 2 Sockets 5+/4+/2+ Ist
2 Ama 30 Frw 2 Sockets 8+ Ist

amus

3 PCombat/War Cries 70+ Life Ist+
3 PC/WC 90+ Life 2+ Ist
3 Fire/light/cold/trap/poison bone/elemental 70+ Life pul+
3 Fire/light/cold/trap/pb/ele 90+ Life Ist+
3 Fire/light/cold/trap/pb/ele/pc/wc 10 fcr pul
50 mf 4+ Ist

armors

70+ life 4 soc archon plate/dusk/wire 12+ Ist
70+ life 4 soc random armor 3+ Ist
24 fhr 4 soc armor 6+ Ist

rings

40% mf 4+ Ist

weapons

Greater Talons 5+ ls 2 soc 10+ Ist
GTs 5+ ls 20ias 2 soc 30+ Ist
GTs 30-40ias Fools 3ls 2 Socket 20+ Ist
Claw Random 2assa 3ls 2 Socket 6+ Ist
Claw Random 3trap 3ls 2 Socket 6+ Ist check
Javelin* 4+ Java 30+ Ias 8++ Ist
orb 5+ light/fire ball/orb/blizz 20fcr with useful adds 8+ Ist

shields

(JMOD)** Jewelers Monarch Of Deflection 75++ Ist
(JMOB) Jewelers Monarch Of Blocking 10+ Ist
(JWOD) Jewelers Ward Of Deflection 10+ Ist
Tower Shield 30/20 3 socks 5 Ist
Kite Shield 30/20 3 socks 3 Ist

**reported found of 133 and 139 jmod. 148's are in shops. new def ones will have higher value

gloves

3 java 20 ias (str req below 156) 1-2 Ist

6. Charms

Uniques

Torch Unid Hr

Pala Torch low 2-4 ist
Pala Torch mid 4-8 ist
Pala Troch high 8-10 ist
Pala Torch 20 / 10-14 6-8
Pala Torch 20 / 15-18 8-12 Ist
Pala Torch 20 / 19 ~15 Ist
Pala Torch Perfect 20 / 20 30-35 Ist

Sorc Torch low 1-2 Ist
Sorc Torch mid 2-6 Ist
Sorc Torch high 6-8 Ist
Sorc Torch 20 / 10-14 4-6 Ist
Sorc Torch 20 / 15-18 6-10 Ist
Sorc Torch 20 / 19 ~12 Ist
Sorc Torch Perfect 20 / 20 20-26 Ist

Ama Torch Lem+
Ama Torch 20 / 10-14 1-2 Ist
Ama Torch 20 / 15-19 3-5 Ist
Ama Torch Perfect 20 / 20 ~12 Ist

N/A/B/D Torch Lem+
N/A/B/D Torch 20 / 10-14 1-2 Ist
N/A/B/D Torch 20 / 15-19 2-4 Ist
N/A/B/D Torch Perfect 20 / 20 ~10 Ist

Gheeds Fortune Random Lem+
Gheeds 40 mf 2 Ist
Gheeds 160 gf 2 Ist
Gheeds -15 vendor Ist
Gheeds Perfect 40 / 160 / 15 ~30 Ist

Annihilius Unid ~5 Ist

Anni 2+ Ist
Anni 15-18 / 15-20 / 5-10 3-9 Ist
Anni 19 / 15-20 / 5-10 5-10 Ist
Anni 20 / 10-15 / 5-10 5-8 Ist
Anni 20 / 16-19 / 5-9 6-12 Ist
Anni 20 / 16-18 / 10 10-20 Ist
Anni 20 / 19 / 10 ~25 Ist
Anni 20 / 20 / 5-9 30+ Ist
Anni Perfect 20 / 20 / 10 50++ Ist

Magic

baal charms

41+ life pul-um
unprooven lem-pul (depending if ur word is enough for the buyer)

grand charms

15 @ / 12 fhr 2 Ist
15 @ / 30-39 Life 2-4 Ist
15 @ / 40+ Life 3+ Ist

8+ Max / xx Ar / 12 fhr 3+ Ist
8+ Max / xx Ar / 20-39 Life 3-20 Ist
8+ Max / xx Ar / 40+ 10++ Ist

1xx Ar / 30-39 Life 1-3 Ist
1xx Ar / 40+ Life 2-6 Ist

cold/fire/elemental/trap/java/war cries/shadow - skiller

plain pul
wc 40 eg 20+ Ist+
6 str/dex ~Ist
java fhr ~4 Ist
rest fhr ~Ist
1x life Um-Ist
2x life 1-4 Ist
3x life 4-8 Ist
4x life 10+ Ist

for offensive/necro summon/shape/bow/barb mastery - skiller: half the prices of the ones above

light/poison&bone | pcombat - skiller

plain Ist | Ist+
6 str/dex 2 Ist | 3+ Ist
fhr 3+ Ist | 6+ Ist
1x life 1-2 Ist | 2+ Ist
2x life 2-5 Ist | 4+ Ist
3x life 5-10 Ist | 8+ Ist
4x life 12+ Ist | 16+ Ist

small charms

3 frw 5 @ ~3 Ist
3 frw 11 res (c/f/l) ~Ist
3 frw 11 psn ~pul
3 frw 3 max xx ar 2+ Ist

3 max ar 10-15 life 1-4 Ist
3 max ar 16-17 life 5-8 Ist
3 max ar 18+ life 10+ Ist

20 life 2x ar 2 Ist
20 life 3x ar 5+ Ist

3 max ar 2 Dex ~Ist

3 max ar 5 fhr ~4 Ist

5 fhr 5 @ ~8 Ist
5 fhr 11 res (c/f/l) ~5 Ist
5 fhr 11 psn pul
5 fhr 12 mana ~ Ist
5 fhr 17 mana ~5 Ist

15-18 life 5 @ 4-14 Ist
19-20 life 5 @ 15+ Ist


20 life 11 res (c/f/l) 13 Ist
20 life 11 psn 2 Ist
20 life 10 res (c/f/l) 8 Ist
20 life 10 psn Ist
20 life 9 res (c/f/l) 4 Ist
20 life 8 res (c/f/l) 3 Ist
20 life 7 res (c/f/l) 2 Ist
20 life 6 res (c/f/l) Ist Um
20 life 5 res (c/f/l) Ist

20 life 17 mana 35+ Ist
36 stats stats of life mana 15+ Ist
30-35 stats of life mana 2-10 Ist

451 psn 8+ Ist
313 psn 6 Ist
20 life 100 psn 2 Ist
5 fhr 100 psn ~Ist
7 mf 5 @ 4 Ist
7 mf 11 res Ist
7 mf 10 res Um
7 mf pul

5 @ 10 eg 4 Ist

20 life um-ist
19 Life lem-pul
15 Life lem-pul
5 @ Ist

7. Socketables

lp/bp/gp light plate/breast plate/gothic plate 15 ed 0/3 pul-ist
mage plate 0/3 250+ def ~ pul
mp 0/3 15 ed ~ist
dusk/wire/scarab/wyrm/archon plate 0/4 pul
dusk/wire/ap//scarab/wyrm 0/4 15 ed ~2 ist//~ist - ist pul
dusk/wire/scarab/wyrm/great hauberk/ap 3 soc pul-ist
dusk/wire/scarab/wyrm/gh/ap 3 15 ed 3-4 Ist

ebug armor 4 soc 1k ist
ebug armor 4 soc 1.1k 2 ist
ebug armor 4 soc 1.2k 3 ist
ebug armor 4 soc 1.3k 4+ Ist

elite pala shield + royal shield 40+@ 0/4 1-5 Ist
elite pala shield + royal shield 30+@ 3 soc 1-8 Ist
eth elite pala shield 40+@ 4 soc Ist
ebug elite pala shield 40+@ 4 soc 3+ Ist
monarch 0/4 lem/pul
monarch 15ed 0/4 Ist
ebug monarch 4 soc ist
trollnest 0/3 lem
trollnest 0/3 15 ed ist

grand matron bow 3sk 4 soc ist
gmb 3sk 4 soc 15 ed 6 Ist
elite non-ama bow 4 soc pul
elite non-ama bow 4 soc 15 ed ~Ist
cs cristal sword 5 soc lem-pul | pul-um
flail 4-5 soc lem | pul-um
pb phase blade 0/6 15 ed ist
pb/ba phase blade/berserker axe 5 soc pul/ist
pb/ba 5 soc 15ed Ist+/3+ Ist
eth berserker axe 0/6 ist
eth ba 0/6 15 ed 3 Ist
eth colossus voulge 0/4 soc ist
eth cv 0/4 soc 15 ed 2 Ist
eth cryptic axe/thresher/great poleaxe 4 soc 1-2 ist
eth ca/thresher/gp 4 soc 15 ed 3+ Ist
greater talons 3 ls 2 Ist

8. Runewords

input bout HoJ's (Hand of Justice), Dreams and Dragons is needed to complete this section

weapons

beast berserker axe 4 Ist
beast ba near perfect 16+ Ist
insight eth elite polearm ist
insight eth elite polearm 17 Aura 3 Ist
memory 9 energy shield 2+
memory 9 es 6 ca 30+ Ist
memory 9 es ca-sa enchant 120+ Ist
faith grand matron bow +3 sk 4 Ist
faith gmb +3 sk perfect 20+ Ist
faith elite non ama bow 13+ aura 15 ed 6+ Ist
Heart of the Oak 30-35 1-2 ist
hoto 36-37 2-3 ist
hoto 38-39 3-4 Ist
hoto 40 @ ~6 Ist
hoto 40 @ eth ~8 Ist
last wish berserker axe/phaseblade 4+ Ist
lw ba/pb 70 cb 360+ ed 20+ Ist
ebotd eth Breath of the Dying 3+ Ist
doom 3+ Ist
cry to arms 1 ist
cta 2 2 Ist
cta 3 3 ist
cta 4 4 Ist
cta 5 5+ Ist
cta 6 8+ Ist
cta 6 6 x 15+ Ist
grief berserker axe 34+ ias 3 Ist
grief ba 34+ ias 390+ dmg 12+ Ist
grief phaseblade 2 Ist
grief pb 390+ dmg 4+ Ist
grief pb 395+ 10+ Ist
infinity eth elite polearm 5+ Ist
death eth ba/cs 3 Ist
pride eth elite 4+ Ist
pride 20 aura 8+ Ist

armors

chains of honor: no variables => worth of base armor plus runes
enigma dusk/wire/scarab/wyrm/gh/ap 2-3 Ist
enigma dusk/wire/scarab/wyrm/gh/ap 15 ed 5+ Ist
stone ebug 2 Ist
stone ebug 5k+ def 4-5 Ist
forty dusk/wire/scarab/wyrm/ap 1+ Ist
forty dusk/wire/scarab/wyrm/ap 15 ed 1.5 30@ ~12 Ist
forty ebug: worth of base armor plus one Ist

shields

ebug exile elite pala shield 35+@ 3+ Ist
spirit monarch pul
spirit monarch 35 fcr Ist+
spirit monarch 35 fcr 110+mana 5+ Ist
spirit pala ~pul
spirit 35 fcr pala elite shield + royal shield 35@+ 2+ Ist
spirit 35 fcr 110+ mana pala elite shield + royal shield 40+@ 5+ Ist
phoenix monarch 3+ Ist

9. Jools

i expect discussion about this. this is the hardest section to put prices on

rainbow facet's

5 5 psn rbf level pul - um
5 5 psn rbf die ~ Ist
5 5 fire rbf level ~ 1 Ist
5 5 fire rbf die ~ 2 Ist
5 5 cold rbf level ~ Ist pul
5 5 cold rbf die ~ 2 Ist
5 5 light rbf level ~2-3 Ist
5 5 light rbf die 4+ Ist

non perfect ones are hard to price, but usually they are hard to trade for more than pul-ist (psn: pgs-lem), a light 4 5 or 5 4 might go for a Ist

magic / rare

there are other valuable combinations (just look at Spinx's needs...), but these are the ones wanted the most

25+ ed 15 ias 2+ ist
30+ ed 15 ias 4+ ist
30+ ed -15 req 3+ Ist
30+ ed 10+ max 2+ ist
30+ ed 9 dex 2+ Ist
30+ ed 9 str 2+ Ist

15 ias 10+@ 3+ Ist
15 ias 80+ ar 2+ Ist
15 ias 30 single res 3+ Ist

10+ @ -15 req 4+ Ist

7 fhr 9 str 2+ Ist
7 fhr 9 dex 2+ Ist
7 fhr 9 str 9 dex 7+ Ist
7 fhr 9 str 15 mana 7+ Ist
7 fhr 9 dex 15 mana 7+ Ist
7 fhr 9 dex -15 req 8+ Ist
7 fhr 10+@ 2+ Ist

20 life 20 mana 5 Ist
20 life 15@ 8+ Ist

10. LLD

I do not have much experience in this field, only the most general items and combinations I am aware of.

here is some more insight:

Lld Priceguide Ladder Season 5

Lld 29/30 Items - Guidelines for circlets, rings, amulets, bows, javelins and shields
LLD Item Guide version 1.0

Last but not least TJ´s statistic threads

What makes a Rare/Magic item valueable?

greetz
Krupa

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Old 01-09-2009, 09:51   #2
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Re: Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

Nice so far. How about a socketables section as well?
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:55   #3
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Re: Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

Nice work Krupa!

I vote for a sticky (even though its late in the season!)

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Re: Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

Nice work Krupa.

Hope you don't mind me sharing some of my trading experiences with you;

Pul = 30 PG's = 2 Lem - I do try this trade often, and it seems I cant be able to get a Pul for 2 Lems anymore (have to add a Ko or something it seems...)
Ist = Um = Gul = 1.5-2 Pul This is not my experience. My experience is that the prices are still very fixed on this; Ist = Um+Pul = 3 Pul

Um ~ 40 PG - I would love to get a Um for just 40 pg. The price must be at least 60 IMO

Packs

20 PRubies/ Amethysts = Ist - Rather easy for Ameths. Much harder for Rubies (I have never found someone willing to pay Ist for 20 PRubies (if you know anybody pls PM me...)

40 Jools = Ist - I cant see this happen either. I'm very happy when I can sell 25-30 crap Jools for Pul

Spirit Pack incl Hel = Pul-Ist - I have sold/tried to sell many Spirit packs w/Hels. I always sell them for Lem each, Pul for two, Um for four etc. Even at that price its tough to get byers. I had a thread on ETF some weeks ago offering Spirit packs but got no replies at all.

3x3 = Ist - Still happens sometimes, but 3x3 often go for Um now it seems
Organset = Ist Pul Easy to sell for Ist, but I haven't seen Ist Pul


I really hope you don't take offence that I share with you my experiences in tradingprices. I know that you probably are a lot more experienced trader/player that I am, but this is what I have experienced anyway...

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Old 01-09-2009, 11:22   #5
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Re: Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

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Nice work Krupa.

Hope you don't mind me sharing some of my trading experiences with you;

Pul = 30 PG's = 2 Lem - I do try this trade often, and it seems I cant be able to get a Pul for 2 Lems anymore (have to add a Ko or something it seems...)
Ist = Um = Gul = 1.5-2 Pul This is not my experience. My experience is that the prices are still very fixed on this; Ist = Um+Pul = 3 Pul

Um ~ 40 PG - I would love to get a Um for just 40 pg. The price must be at least 60 IMO

Packs

20 PRubies/ Amethysts = Ist - Rather easy for Ameths. Much harder for Rubies (I have never found someone willing to pay Ist for 20 PRubies (if you know anybody pls PM me...)

40 Jools = Ist - I cant see this happen either. I'm very happy when I can sell 25-30 crap Jools for Pul

Spirit Pack incl Hel = Pul-Ist - I have sold/tried to sell many Spirit packs w/Hels. I always sell them for Lem each, Pul for two, Um for four etc. Even at that price its tough to get byers. I had a thread on ETF some weeks ago offering Spirit packs but got no replies at all.

3x3 = Ist - Still happens sometimes, but 3x3 often go for Um now it seems
Organset = Ist Pul Easy to sell for Ist, but I haven't seen Ist Pul


I really hope you don't take offence that I share with you my experiences in tradingprices. I know that you probably are a lot more experienced trader/player that I am, but this is what I have experienced anyway...

Peace and love
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thx for the quick responses
ofc my pricing is not without flaws. these prices are my experience from trading on bnet, here and on another forum. so its more a mixture
for now i won't change it and continue writing. i hope more ppl will comment on these points, the more opinions the more accurate the prices will be in here
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Re: Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

Nice effort.

Q: What is this?

36-37 stats 15+ hr
30-35 stats 2-10 hr
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Nice effort.

Q: What is this?

36-37 stats 15+ hr
30-35 stats 2-10 hr
should have made this more clear sorry

its for life-mana sc's
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Re: Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

Ok, I have some not fair prices:

Ist = Um = Gul = 1.5-2 Pul
Correct price Ist=um+pul

3x3 = Ist
Correct price is 4x3=ist, 3x3=um+ now
Organ set is ist
Nightwings 15% 2-3 Ist
correct price is ~ 5 ist

About coa:

Coa 1 Socket Pul - bad coa 1 socks is now from 3 ist as minium price
Coa 2 Socket 4+ Hr - 2s coa starts from 6 hr
Coa 2 Socket 15% DR 10+ hr
You dont care about resist on coa? This is VERY serious mistake!
Correct it please with res attributes.

About mara:

Maras 20-24 2-3 Ist - 2-5 ist
Maras 25-28 2-3 Hr - 4-5 hr
Maras 29+ 5+ Hr - 6hr
Maras 30 8hr+

Soj 3 Hr - usually price is 4 ists
Bk3 Hr - 3ists
Bk4 Hr Ist - 4ists
Bk5 2 Hr - 5 ists

Uf! I'm too busy now, I'm at work, but I will correct your price, because most of prices is OLD.
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:13   #9
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Re: Europe Ladder 5 Price Guide

Awesome work,
I'd like to agree with most of the points Groo makes (the ones i don't agree with is simply because i don't know )

Pul = 30-40 pgems (i've bought well over 2000 pgems and i don't buy less than 35 pgems vs pul (well maybe a little less if there are pames in decent quantity). Granted you'll see "N Pul O 25 pgems", but by the same theory you'll also see "O 40 pgems N Ist" games.
I'd think putting pul = 30-40 pgems, or ~35 would be more accurate.
With ^ in mind, i'd sell my 40 pgems for an Um any day of the week, for me Um is still ~65+ pgems. As a trade this is doable on bnet assuming you have both a Pul and an Um to trade with, buy ~30 vs pul, then buy ~30+pul vs Um.

Runewise,
2Lem = Pul
Pul = Pul
Um = 2Pul
Ist = 3Pul (or PulUm)
Mal = 4pul ~=hr
with Gul being worth anywhere from Um to IstPul depending on buyer / seller and desperation. [No one wants to store Guls, but when you need one for a runeword it can be a ballache finding one].

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20 PRubies/ Amethysts = Ist - Rather easy for Ameths. Much harder for Rubies (I have never found someone willing to pay Ist for 20 PRubies (if you know anybody pls PM me...)
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40 Jools = Ist - I cant see this happen either. I'm very happy when I can sell 25-30 crap Jools for Pul
^agreed

KUTGW, and once i've done some RL stuff, i'll probably comment more.
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Ok, I have some not fair prices:

Ist = Um = Gul = 1.5-2 Pul
Correct price Ist=um+pul

3x3 = Ist
Correct price is 4x3=ist, 3x3=um+ now
Organ set is ist
Nightwings 15% 2-3 Ist
correct price is ~ 5 ist

About coa:

Coa 1 Socket Pul - bad coa 1 socks is now from 3 ist as minium price
Coa 2 Socket 4+ Hr - 2s coa starts from 6 hr
Coa 2 Socket 15% DR 10+ hr
You dont care about resist on coa? This is VERY serious mistake!
Correct it please with res attributes.

About mara:

Maras 20-24 2-3 Ist - 2-5 ist
Maras 25-28 2-3 Hr - 4-5 hr
Maras 29+ 5+ Hr - 6hr
Maras 30 8hr+

Soj 3 Hr - usually price is 4 ists
Bk3 Hr - 3ists
Bk4 Hr Ist - 4ists
Bk5 2 Hr - 5 ists

Uf! I'm too busy now, I'm at work, but I will correct your price, because most of prices is OLD.
i see more and more ppl disagree with my rune-valuation, so i think i might change it tomorrow, for today it will stand as it is.

everyone should know: i don't play sc lod anymore. so my price knowledge is about 3 months old. never the less this is my third ladder, usually they behave in the same manner, i'm cross checking most prices with another forum and am still following threads every now and then. so i didn't get them out of the thin air...

about the coa: dr is a more important mod on it than res. that is why i'm focusing on it. coa is a pvp helmet and i never seen any pvp player wanting a 1 soc one. i see no demand for them, that is why i'm estimating them to be close to worthless. also its a high end item. high end players know prices and won't look in a guide, so i have and will only focus on the main variables, as too many possible combinations would make this thread chaotic.

also ur disagreeing with my prices might be cuz we value runes differently...

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Awesome work,
I'd like to agree with most of the points Groo makes (the ones i don't agree with is simply because i don't know )

Pul = 30-40 pgems (i've bought well over 2000 pgems and i don't buy less than 35 pgems vs pul (well maybe a little less if there are pames in decent quantity). Granted you'll see "N Pul O 25 pgems", but by the same theory you'll also see "O 40 pgems N Ist" games.
I'd think putting pul = 30-40 pgems, or ~35 would be more accurate.
With ^ in mind, i'd sell my 40 pgems for an Um any day of the week, for me Um is still ~65+ pgems. As a trade this is doable on bnet assuming you have both a Pul and an Um to trade with, buy ~30 vs pul, then buy ~30+pul vs Um.

Runewise,
2Lem = Pul
Pul = Pul
Um = 2Pul
Ist = 3Pul (or PulUm)
Mal = 4pul ~=hr
with Gul being worth anywhere from Um to IstPul depending on buyer / seller and desperation. [No one wants to store Guls, but when you need one for a runeword it can be a ballache finding one].


&

^agreed

KUTGW, and once i've done some RL stuff, i'll probably comment more.
i´m gonna check some threads and trade games today.
also i rechecked the rune to rune and the rune to pg calculations. its just doesn't fit atm. i will correct it asap
cross checked the thing with the amies and rubies: on other forums, i checked every single one i have an account on: first: my rune valuation 40 amies: hr ist - 40 rubies 2 ist; second slightly different rune value, but packs remain...but other forums other prices. i will wait for a little more feedback bout it, before i change. wrong estimations will attract more responses i guess

any feedback is welcome

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