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If you WSM bug, the Chaos becomes primary. You don't get the primary ar from the fools claw. If you have the feral as primary, chaos secondary without wsm bugging, you'll need 52% IAS with the -25 AWSM you have. A lot of ias, but you'll have the fools primary.
For it's speed and necessity of being primary when wsm bugging, a runics is usually the fury / fools. A slower, but usually stronger claw is the secondary chaos.
Ok i making a Ww sin lately however i got confuse with the ww speed break
From what i know the lower the weapon attack speed mean faster(slow to fast ..10,0,-10,-20,-30)
Which mean weapon speed from slowest to faster for elite claw is
warfist(10)-->Suwayyah,Scissors Suwayyah(0)-->Wrist Sword,Battle Cestus(-10)-->Feral Claws(-20)-->Runic Talons(-30)
i will be using dual claw (chaos+fury) i suppose they are the best claw u can get. what should i make chaos and fury on to make best ww speed combination?
Btw i saw ur vid using dragon claw is 1 point? or max it or add a fewpoint
Gear wise i think i wear
claw-chaos/fury
helm-shako or Andariel's Visage or vamp gaze
armour-archon plate enimga
belt-Verdungo's Hearty Cord,Arachnid Mesh,String of Ears
glove-trang
Boot-Sandstorm Trek,Gore Rider,Shadow Dancer
ammy-Highlord’s,mara
Ring- raven frost x2 or raven + a rare dual leech or craft 11%LL
Offhand- CTA+spirit monarch
Ok i making a Ww sin lately however i got confuse with the ww speed break
From what i know the lower the weapon attack speed mean faster(slow to fast ..10,0,-10,-20,-30)
Which mean weapon speed from slowest to faster for elite claw is
warfist(10)-->Suwayyah,Scissors Suwayyah(0)-->Wrist Sword,Battle Cestus(-10)-->Feral Claws(-20)-->Runic Talons(-30)
i will be using dual claw (chaos+fury) i suppose they are the best claw u can get. what should i make chaos and fury on to make best ww speed combination?
Btw i saw ur vid using dragon claw is 1 point? or max it or add a fewpoint
Gear wise i think i wear
claw-chaos/fury
helm-shako or Andariel's Visage or vamp gaze
armour-archon plate enimga
belt-Verdungo's Hearty Cord,Arachnid Mesh,String of Ears
glove-trang
Boot-Sandstorm Trek,Gore Rider,Shadow Dancer
ammy-Highlord’s,mara
Ring- raven frost x2 or raven + a rare dual leech or craft 11%LL
Offhand- CTA+spirit monarch
Aww, you're slacking I'll go ahead and comment then
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Originally Posted by lzxkf
Ok i making a Ww sin lately however i got confuse with the ww speed break
From what i know the lower the weapon attack speed mean faster(slow to fast ..10,0,-10,-20,-30)
Which mean weapon speed from slowest to faster for elite claw is
warfist(10)-->Suwayyah,Scissors Suwayyah(0)-->Wrist Sword,Battle Cestus(-10)-->Feral Claws(-20)-->Runic Talons(-30)
Absolutely correct. Warfist = slowest claw, and runics are the fastest. Negatives may throw you off, but remember, the lower, the faster.
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i will be using dual claw (chaos+fury) i suppose they are the best claw u can get. what should i make chaos and fury on to make best ww speed combination?
"Fools" with some damage, IAS and sockets are usually better, but fury is a very good, easier to get claw (fixed mods). If you are using Chaos and a Fury, you have absolutely no worry about WW speed Each claw will hit 4 frame WW. Generally, if you can socket it and make either of the two runewords, the claw will hit 4 frames from the base speed and IAS on the claw.
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Btw i saw ur vid using dragon claw is 1 point? or max it or add a fewpoint
Just one point to get it will suffice. It's a secondary melee move, and unless you really have to use it tons, don't even bother maxing. One point wonder right there
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Gear wise i think i wear
claw-chaos/fury
helm-shako or Andariel's Visage or vamp gaze
armour-archon plate enimga
belt-Verdungo's Hearty Cord,Arachnid Mesh,String of Ears
glove-trang
Boot-Sandstorm Trek,Gore Rider,Shadow Dancer
ammy-Highlord’s,mara
Ring- raven frost x2 or raven + a rare dual leech or craft 11%LL
Offhand- CTA+spirit monarch
Any comments?
Of that, I count only 20% FCR (not including the 3 belt choices laid out), and that's assuming the ring didn't, which would only get you 30% anyway. For this, you need to aim for 65% FCR. One of the easiest combos for FCR is:
gloves (20% from trangs. you got this.) belt (20% from arach. was an option, you need this belt. Dr% will be later) helm (20% from a circlet with + skills, socket(s) stats like life, str dex even the % AR / level. whatever you can get, use. even a 2sin/20cast/2oc works beautifully here) ring (10% from a ring. you have 60% with the above, and this completes it. Leech will not work, so look for cast most of all, along with res, stats, life, mana, etc. as long as it has something like those and, most importantly, cast, then you're good.)
Only use a Highlord's if you have some strong claws. It's not going to help unless you can dish out a lot of phys damage. Venom is easier, and works with the maras.
Boots would probably be dancers. You should be able to hit the str with the gear (especially if stating for archon as is), and the fhr, skill, and dex will help you.
With that though, I see only 30% fhr. A shael in the helm brings you to 50%, which will work for a ww char to hit the 48% BP.
You didn't ask about it, but rather than WW, your worry should be about how fast your trap speed is. 9 frames is the goal, and I don't know the base claws to know if you do or do not hit 9 frames. But like wizzy said, the guide would cover IAS depending on claws.
Aww, you're slacking I'll go ahead and comment then
Absolutely correct. Warfist = slowest claw, and runics are the fastest. Negatives may throw you off, but remember, the lower, the faster.
"Fools" with some damage, IAS and sockets are usually better, but fury is a very good, easier to get claw (fixed mods). If you are using Chaos and a Fury, you have absolutely no worry about WW speed Each claw will hit 4 frame WW. Generally, if you can socket it and make either of the two runewords, the claw will hit 4 frames from the base speed and IAS on the claw.
You didn't ask about it, but rather than WW, your worry should be about how fast your trap speed is. 9 frames is the goal, and I don't know the base claws to know if you do or do not hit 9 frames. But like wizzy said, the guide would cover IAS depending on claws.
For the 9 fps trap which base speed claw(10,0,-10,-20-,30) should i be at least using considering chaos/fury
Don't use 2x Suwayyah. The damage will be slightly better, but you'll be extremely slow. 2x Suwayyah would require 125% IAS!
However, if you keep one suwayyah, combo with a runic (WSM bugging. Do as the guide says in that section and you're fine.), it requires only 19% IAS. Covered by the fury's 40% eh? Such a huge relief on IAS, yet only a slight decrease in damage (which is negligible really).
Don't use 2x Suwayyah. The damage will be slightly better, but you'll be extremely slow. 2x Suwayyah would require 125% IAS!
However, if you keep one suwayyah, combo with a runic (WSM bugging. Do as the guide says in that section and you're fine.), it requires only 19% IAS. Covered by the fury's 40% eh? Such a huge relief on IAS, yet only a slight decrease in damage (which is negligible really).
So i take it that suwayyah is best with chaos and runic is best with fury? If i use feral fury instead of runic fury or maybe even wristsword fury how much IAS i require??
regarding the wsm bugging can i double confirm it again
Fury on runic on boot side,chaos on suwayyah on glove side? everytime i join game enter tp/wp i have to lift and drop back the suwayyah?
I'll go ahead and comment then 
Each claw will hit 4 frame WW. Generally, if you can socket it and make either of the two runewords, the claw will hit 4 frames from the base speed and IAS on the claw.
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