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Old 20-11-2009, 18:01   #11
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Re: Most efficient stat for dps increase?

I dont understand whats with the WWS raving guys. Its just a low damage bow with some good mods. With multishot its in fact terrible, my bowa had trouble with it in nm before replacing with buriza and goldarch... i would suggest dumping it, even though it has high popularity here.
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Old 21-11-2009, 02:00   #12
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Re: Most efficient stat for dps increase?

When you do the calculations the only bows worth considering before Windforce/Faith are Eaglehorn or Buriza... but ssshhh...
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Old 29-11-2009, 03:13   #13
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Re: Most efficient stat for dps increase?

I'm kinda flattered that anyone even remembers this old-timer. =)

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ak404: seriously?
Ya, srsly.

Look, Razortail is an awesome belt, I won't deny that, but the OP is looking for leech, slows, and knockback: as a uWWS user, the majority of his damage will be coming off Amp'd targets, not base damage. The dexterity and damage boost from Razortail are wonderful when augmented by a Might, Concentration, or Fanaticism aura, but when those things aren't present, then those bonuses are no more than a drop in the bucket.

You gotta remember, the OP ain't running Faith, WF, or Wrath, he's running a uWWS, a bow with awesome mods and relatively good average damage. It's also a lot of fun to use.

"But it has 33% Pierce!"

Yeah, and so what? Unless the OP is spamming FA as his primary source of damage instead of using it as a panic button or crowd control, the piercing isn't as big as you think it's going to be. Pierce is hax when used with elemental AOE skills, but if the OP's primary source of damage is Strafe, then he doesn't need the piercing because it won't do him as much good. This isn't like overlapping AOE damage where you're hitting everything in a 3-yard radius, it's more like a second shot at another target.

So, if the OP was using a stronger bow or something with an aura, I'd definitely invoke the Razortail, but he (assuming the OP is male) isn't, and nor does is seem likely that the OP change the bow. Hence, the first thing he needs to do is find a belt that fits the criteria he wants, and while Razortail doesn't fit those criteria, Nosferatu Coil does. That doesn't mean the Razortail won't work, it's just not the right belt for this build.

Second, because most of the damage will be coming from cursing targets and landing critical hits, the OP's first priority is to make sure he can hit them. Thus, my recommendation for an Eth rune and AR boosts: once the OP's bowazon can hit the targets consistently, everything else falls into place. After that, you work on secondary effects like KB, slows, open wounds, and leech. Then you work on boosting damage. It sounds bass-ackwards, I know, but Amp Damage is just that strong: making sure it lands is the first priority.

And lastly, because Amp Damage will only activate on the middle two arrows with Multiple Shot, uWWS sucks with that skill: you'll end up amping everything in the middle while leaving everything else on the left and right unscathed. It's a strafer's bow.

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Old 29-11-2009, 09:02   #14
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Re: Most efficient stat for dps increase?

I see that most people use uWWS for the wrong reasons. Usually it's for the resists and the Amp ctc. It used to be because of its speed and sockets, but that's not relevant anymore.

The problem with it, is that it is just too weak. You would be okay in a one-player game or single player, but if playing with more people in bnet, you will feel too underpowered.
You may use it if you like, but when you have so many better options out there, it's hard to look at WWS with the same eyes again. Everything it provides, you can get elsewhere and with better damage output.

About not using Razortail: it's doable not using it. But your argument stating that you don't need it's extra damage, because with uWWS you will be counting on Amp'd damage and DS, just doesn't seem right.
This way, every dex point and +max damage should count as double. Even more important for your already low damage output.
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Old 29-11-2009, 18:56   #15
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Re: Most efficient stat for dps increase?

While the uWWS is a relatively weak bow to use in comparison to Faith or WF, it's still a fun bow to use with a minimal demand on one's resources or time. See, the one thing I'm keeping in mind is that there is a very real possibility that the OP does not want to change his bow. If the OP is bent on using a uWWS, then I'm not about to dissuade him from doing so; the goal then becomes making the most out of his choice.

The reason Razortail isn't the top contender for the particular needs of this build is that the OP has already stated that he needs slow, leech, and IAS: for those things, Nosferatu Coil is invaluable. Once the OP is able to fill those needs elsewhere, then the Razortail once again becomes a viable option.
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Re: Most efficient stat for dps increase?

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While the uWWS is a relatively weak bow to use in comparison to Faith or WF, it's still a fun bow to use with a minimal demand on one's resources or time. See, the one thing I'm keeping in mind is that there is a very real possibility that the OP does not want to change his bow. If the OP is bent on using a uWWS, then I'm not about to dissuade him from doing so; the goal then becomes making the most out of his choice.

The reason Razortail isn't the top contender for the particular needs of this build is that the OP has already stated that he needs slow, leech, and IAS: for those things, Nosferatu Coil is invaluable. Once the OP is able to fill those needs elsewhere, then the Razortail once again becomes a viable option.
But Gloomstrap over Razortail???
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Old 29-11-2009, 19:09   #17
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Re: Most efficient stat for dps increase?

Honestly, Gloomstrap isn't my first choice (which is why I just threw it in as an aside instead of going into detail as I did with the Nosferatu Coil), but if you don't have any mana leech, then it works as a spare tire until you can obtain mana leech elsewhere.

Basically, it's all about prioritizing your needs and finding equipment that fits. It might not be the best equipment, but the key is to first make sure those needs are met, then start upgrading as you move on. This is a lesson I learned from BRK while playing WOW: Always approach the term "Best in Slot" with caution, because things that have "the best stats" don’t always result in you having "the best stats".
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