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    IncGamers Member Excalibur's Avatar
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    Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    Hi guys,

    I have a 93 level Paladin. I've asked two times your help in the past to improve him. I finally concluded on all the final gear I want to use for him except.. the shield. At first I was using an exile, I had a really awesome roll but I was convinced to replace it mostly because equipping the hireling with a Reaper's and Desecripfing enemies was a superior choice to life tap caused by the exile.

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    Exile
    Excalibur's Sacred Targe
    'VexOhmIstDol'
    Defense: 1181
    Chance to Block:  60%
    Smite Damage: 22 to 70
    Durability: 23 of 23
    (Paladin Only)
    Required Strength: 76
    Required Level: 57
    Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
    Item Level: 85
    Fingerprint: 0xe3ccb622
    +258% Enhanced Defense
    Fire Resist +43%
    +5% to Maximum Fire Resist
    Lightning Resist +43%
    Cold Resist +43%
    +5% to Maximum Cold Resist
    Poison Resist +43%
    Replenish Life +7
    25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    30% Faster Block Rate
    Freezes Target +1
    Level 16 Defiance Aura When Equipped
    +2 to Offensive Aura Skills (Paladin Only)
    15% Chance to cast Level 5 Life Tap on striking
    Repairs 1 durability in 4 seconds
    Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired), Socketed (4: 4 used)
    So, I had two recommendations about the shield. Hoz and Phoenix. I was so addicted with that %enchanced damage granted by phoenix that I created it with the very first chance I got. I made the runeword on a +45 resist Palashield and I was perfectly satisfied.

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    Phoenix
    Protector Shield
    'VexVexLoJah'
    Defense: 146
    Chance to Block:  50%
    Smite Damage: 18 to 24
    Durability: 40 of 40
    (Paladin Only)
    Required Strength: 69
    Required Level: 65
    Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
    Item Level: 80
    Fingerprint: 0xba36a0d
    +50 to Life
    +371% Enhanced Damage
    +364 Defense vs. Missile
    Fire Resist +45%
    +10% to Maximum Fire Resist
    Lightning Resist +45%
    +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
    Cold Resist +45%
    Poison Resist +45%
    +18 Fire Absorb
    Level 14 Redemption Aura When Equipped
    40% Chance to cast Level 22 Firestorm on striking
    100% Chance to cast Level 40 Blaze When You Level Up
    -28% to Enemy Fire Resistance
    Socketed (4: 4 used)
    My character has no problems at all anywhere. Kills everything really fast even on players8 with slim chances of a death. However there's one little thing that is eating me. Shield Block! Phoenix has no increased chance of blocking and my shield block dropped to 62%.
    Which shield would you use? What do you suggest me to do? Respec and add the extra dexeterity it needs to stick with phoenix? I am pretty sure it will need many more dexeterity points and I am not quite sure... or simply switching to an Umed Hoz which will help me also free some resistances charms..? Help!


    Stats with Phoenix:


    Stats with Hoz:

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    Death Colossus Sword > all. /thread

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    Thanks but I would like to stick to one hand weapon.

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    With respecs it's really easy to just try and see what works better for you.

    If you were asking if you should make a Phoenix shield, it would be a different thing, but you already have it so... just get some essences/tokens and test all different setups

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    IMO Phoenix is too expensive in comparison to a HoZ, just like LW in comparison to Grief, but if that's a LW PB on your paladin, you already paid most of the price, and then Phoenix looks more appealing to me.

    If it's Grief, I would use a HoZ, together with replacing the gloves with Dracul's (looks like LoH on your char) and using T-god's instead of what looks like a String of Ears.
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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    I am just curious how many Dexterity will it need to reach max block without the shield offering any extra. I guess I'll have to use some tokens to find out...

    I am using a Grief right now. I don't really need Dracul's. The damage dealt to mobs is immense that even with low Life steal the health is restored in a single hit but the main reason is that the hireling is carrying a Reaper's so life tap would cancel Decrepify and via versa.

    But I think I didn't use a good base for the Phoenix. I should have used a Sacred Targe for the extra block. :/ Damn..

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    if you kill things mostly very fast then life tap is useless and constant leech (SoE) is better.

    Besides, CtC for your source of leech is sketchy and best, and you'd probably rather decrep be constantly proc'd on tougher enemies like PI or bosses.

    What do you plan to use the char for?

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    I never really build characters for a specific reason, I just like them being good in general but the main area I use this one is for Travincal and Durance of Hate Lvl3.

    In case it helps my rest gear is.
    Helm: Umed Guillaume's face
    Weapon: Grief
    Armor: Fortitude
    Shield: Phoenix
    Boots: GoreRiders
    Gloves: Laying of Hands
    Belt: String of Ears
    Ring: Raven + Rare (dual leach, resists)
    Amulet: Highlord's Wrath

    Thanks!

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    I think there's only two LW in the history of Single Player krischan

    Excalibur, there's many block calculators in the web, here's one: http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/block.php


    And yes, one should use a good base when spending Vex, Vex, Lo and Jah. You picked poorly unfortunately.

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    Re: Zealot: Phoenix or Hoz?

    Personally, I think that if you want zealot for general areas, you shouldn't get either. Why? Cause they don't help you solve zealot's two main problems: No good way to kill non-undead PIs, and lack of crowd control.

    Dream(s) solve both. Max resist lightning and some points in conviction and you got a great alternate attack plus confuse procs. Sure you don't have as much phys damage as if you had G-face and phoenix in those slots, but that's the price you pay for versatility.

    But otherwise for trav and suchlike phoenix is fine, two handed is excellent as well. Hoz... Well, lets say that I built 7 paladins, and I didn't use it in any one of them. So that should tell you my opinion of that thing..

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