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    Expansion thoughts

    I hear with the new Expansion, the Paragon levels will be account-wide. Anyone else heard any more?

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    Hi Thy,

    With the expansion Paragon 2.0 will be implemented and will be account-wide. From what Blizzard has stated so far the levels will be retroactive (i.e. current experience will be converted to paragon 2.0 experience from all your characters, at least that's what is most likely at this point).

    In addition, the Paragon 2.0 system will attribute 1 paragon point per level iirc, these points can be used for character customisation such as stat increases, movement speed increases, crit hit chance etc.

    It sounds like a good addition and the fact they have not put a cap on levels in the system leaves it open for all those SP fanatics who ultimately complete huge feats within the game.

    The crusader, act5 and drop changes/new legendaries is what really has me excited though!

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    As far as I know, all paragon experience will be dumped on a giant paragon XP heap and all paragon points will be freely assignable and re-specable between characters. Details may/will change in the future, of course.

    I like the fact that there is no cap anymore, because when you farm you always gain something if the itamz don't drop. I have two P100's and in both cases I had a 'now what?' feeling when I reached that last level. The carrot dropped off the stick. I recently leveled a second wizard to 60 and I'm harvesting more paragon levels just to see that bar moving again. Should I seek help?

    I'm also excited about the itemization changes, the new class, the mystic, loot runs, etc., etc.

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    AJK, out of curiosity, do you play self-found? Just curious given you've got two Paragon 100's.

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Joosh View Post
    AJK, out of curiosity, do you play self-found? Just curious given you've got two Paragon 100's.
    Nope, I'm an auction house warrior. I like the metagame of planning and optimizing my builds and the AH provides a lot of freedom because gear I need is almost always available there. Fishing for deals on the AH is also part of the fun.

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    Wait, what? Joosh and AJK in one thread? Long time no see! How are you guys doing?

    I hope the expansion will respark my interest in D3...it was the same with D2: I only dabbled into D2 classic, but got really excited about the game after LoD. Also, I hope the new drop mechanics will take into consideration selffound players...*crosses fingers*

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    I'm sort of in Grisu's boots. I've been playing more and more PoE and the only reason I've come back to D3 at all is to make sure my projects are completed by the time the expansion comes out. D3 seems to be set up as a end-game game and once I beat Inferno Prime Evil with a character I sort of loose interest.

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Grisu View Post
    Wait, what? Joosh and AJK in one thread? Long time no see! How are you guys doing?

    I hope the expansion will respark my interest in D3...it was the same with D2: I only dabbled into D2 classic, but got really excited about the game after LoD. Also, I hope the new drop mechanics will take into consideration selffound players...*crosses fingers*
    Hey Grisu, long time no see, good to see you again!

    With the expansion announcement I felt inspired to start playing again, self-found of course.

    Began a Wizard a couple weeks back and am now Paragon 10 attempting to farm inferno MP1 but it's slow going and the legendary drops certainly haven't been frequent! Hah

    Which realm do you play on these days? Presumably Europe (unfortunately I'm on US) but would definitely be keen to play again sometime, though I think you play HC only?

    In regards to your hopes for new drop mechanics, I certainly echo those thoughts, I'm really hoping the new patch is going to change things for the better, and to be honest I have high hopes for Josh Mosquierra as the man in charge, he seems to have a good grip on what the players want which is great!

    All said though, I find the whole 'legendaries drop at all levels based on monster level' an interesting change, what does everyone know about this? There seems to be little information but the assumption would be that any legendary can drop at any difficulty/level which is an interesting thought albeit a further shift from D3. I am actually quite excited about it though, especially with their intention to modify pretty much every legendary to be 'unique' (almost feel they should restore the name uniques again now ) and with what I've seen from the console it certainly looks like this will be the case!

    How do you all feel about the changes to come?

    Joosh

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Grisu View Post
    Wait, what? Joosh and AJK in one thread? Long time no see! How are you guys doing?
    I'm mostly lurking and playing D3, grinding me some paragonz for when the expansion arrives.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joosh View Post
    All said though, I find the whole 'legendaries drop at all levels based on monster level' an interesting change, what does everyone know about this? There seems to be little information but the assumption would be that any legendary can drop at any difficulty/level which is an interesting thought albeit a further shift from D3. I am actually quite excited about it though, especially with their intention to modify pretty much every legendary to be 'unique' (almost feel they should restore the name uniques again now ) and with what I've seen from the console it certainly looks like this will be the case!
    Any legendary can drop at any level, yes. This also means that the affixes(*) will roll at the level the legendary drops. Just imagine a sledge fist with lvl 63 damage rolls. But I think that higher rolls on current legendaries will pale in comparison to the new stuff they will add to the game.

    *: I don't know if only the random rolls will scale to higher levels, or if all affixes will.

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    Re: Expansion thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Joosh View Post
    Which realm do you play on these days? Presumably Europe (unfortunately I'm on US) but would definitely be keen to play again sometime, though I think you play HC only?
    "These days" might be a misleading term in my case, since I haven't played since May or so...but yes, I play on Europe, but my connection is stable for US servers, too, so I might be up for US co-op games, too.

    I backed away from HC only, because I had a lot of deaths due to the difficulty of some fights (untwinked self-found) I couldn't have forseen...main problem was, that my DPS was too low, so even characters, who had 35k life at level 52 died (with DPS 2K...). So I started a SC monk to explore the pitfalls and the difficulty/DPS spikes in the game. He's 60(2) now, Inferno Act II, and very safe.

    My highest HC character is now 52 (Monk), but I don't dare play him right now because I'm out of practice :-P I especially despise Terror Demons with their ability to reduce regen by 75%, which caused at least one or two deaths in NM/Hell. Any advice for that specific problem?

    Anyways, I'd be glad to team up either on US or Europe servers for a play through once the expansion is out But be warned that my time is fairly limited (my daughter, 20 months old, doesn't particularly enjoy to watch video games...).

    Quote Originally Posted by Joosh View Post
    In regards to your hopes for new drop mechanics, I certainly echo those thoughts, I'm really hoping the new patch is going to change things for the better, and to be honest I have high hopes for Josh Mosquierra as the man in charge, he seems to have a good grip on what the players want which is great!
    My impression, too. Let's hope for the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joosh View Post
    All said though, I find the whole 'legendaries drop at all levels based on monster level' an interesting change, what does everyone know about this? There seems to be little information but the assumption would be that any legendary can drop at any difficulty/level which is an interesting thought albeit a further shift from D3. I am actually quite excited about it though, especially with their intention to modify pretty much every legendary to be 'unique' (almost feel they should restore the name uniques again now ) and with what I've seen from the console it certainly looks like this will be the case!
    Quote Originally Posted by AJK View Post
    Any legendary can drop at any level, yes. This also means that the affixes(*) will roll at the level the legendary drops. Just imagine a sledge fist with lvl 63 damage rolls. But I think that higher rolls on current legendaries will pale in comparison to the new stuff they will add to the game.

    *: I don't know if only the random rolls will scale to higher levels, or if all affixes will.
    I haven't delved that much into the loot changes, but one question arises: only the affixes will depend from the clvl, but not the base item damage, if I understood you correclty, AJK?


    Quote Originally Posted by Joosh View Post
    How do you all feel about the changes to come?
    I think they are steps into the right direction and will make the game more interesting for player like us who want to avoid the AH. It's just that in D3C item drops really didn't excite me...when a legendary dropped (below clvl 60), I could pretty much be sure that it was worse than my current rare or even magical (shopped) equipment. If at least they'd have some unique abilities, it would be much more fun

    About the Crusader - I don't know yet if I like the concept...seem like a D2 Paladin/Barb crossover. I will have to net some playing time before I judge the character though.

    All in all I place great hopes in the expansion, esp. for the D3 SP community. Unfortunately, I probably won't have enough time the next 40 years or so to invest as heavily as I did with D2 :-P

    Quote Originally Posted by AJK View Post
    I'm mostly lurking and playing D3, grinding me some paragonz for when the expansion arrives.
    Heh, sounds good regarding the shared paragon levels Hope everything's fine in RL!?

    Hope we stay in touch and will try to visit the forums/D3 more frequently in the future!

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