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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    The Sathoris Bad Ash exchange seems interesting to me too. Although I can usually never read either of them....

    Anyways, I might not be able to post Monday and some of Tuesday (headed back to Denver before school starts)

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Hmm, interesting. I can only assume the mafia would be given a new chat and that player would lose access AND the mafia would be notified that their team member is no longer mafia. Gah, it's an impossible balancing issue, so it should never be in a game.

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by djmbbandie View Post
    The Sathoris Bad Ash exchange seems interesting to me too. Although I can usually never read either of them....

    Anyways, I might not be able to post Monday and some of Tuesday (headed back to Denver before school starts)
    It is an interesting exchange to me because, my gut instinct would be not to provide my name. The I thought about it logically and there is no reason not to provide a name unless you are not a vanilla townie. I really want to hear more from Sath about why he was asking the question and his take on BA's answer.
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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jcakes View Post
    It is an interesting exchange to me because, my gut instinct would be not to provide my name. The I thought about it logically and there is no reason not to provide a name unless you are not a vanilla townie. I really want to hear more from Sath about why he was asking the question and his take on BA's answer.
    Yes ... I'm also quite curious about what Sathoris saw that made him want to know. From what I can tell with google, I can't see how a nameclaim would be a strong way to discern someone's role, but I suppose it's possible. It's unusual for Sathoris to so directly go for someone like that and then not follow up at all, but perhaps the fact that the rest of us have taken notice is what he wanted? I wish he would show up and clarify.

    My gut instinct would also be to not give my name, even as a VT, because if someone has figured out some way from the Warhammer books and games to have an idea of what sort of role certain names are more likely to have, giving up a name that isn't likely to have any role simply helps narrow down who might have the power roles for the mafia.

    At first I was a bit put off by Bad Ash's response but I think maybe the gut response might also be the smart response. I personally don't see any way a name claim is helpful to the scum, but that doesn't completely rule it out.

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrotechnician View Post
    Did you guys miss me? I know you missed me.



    How was it "just bad", and no matter how bad something may seem I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that twilight was just bad if you skipped posts?



    I'm leaning toward this myself, it sounded like it was an event that could occur, not something that was going to happen for certain.



    Of course, makes perfect sense.





    This made me lol at first. Interesting exchange, strange first post of the day phase by Sath (like always) and then almost immediate response by Bad Ash. Sath are you going to come back and enlighten us?



    Makes sense. *Sarcasm* So we shouldn't suspect Sathoris from any point here on out because you said so?



    Ok, so you explained two possible sides, but I don't think anywhere in there it says which side of the coin you believe is happening? Does that make sense? Does this post even make sense?
    I think my alcohol induced response was stupid because it's pretty much what everyone is trying to do every mafia game. It's not like this was a "new idea" or anything else, but instead was a par for the course here's two ways Sath could be thinking of something.

    My response? I feel like Sath the last couple of games has had a sixth sense in mafia as a townie, but not in a scenario when he drops one vote and leaves. I am not saying he is scum or town cause there's lots of reasons for him not following up (I.E. holiday, work, life...), but when he has a read, he usually doesn't drop and lurk.

    Quote Originally Posted by djmbbandie View Post
    The Sathoris Bad Ash exchange seems interesting to me too. Although I can usually never read either of them....

    Anyways, I might not be able to post Monday and some of Tuesday (headed back to Denver before school starts)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jcakes View Post
    It is an interesting exchange to me because, my gut instinct would be not to provide my name. The I thought about it logically and there is no reason not to provide a name unless you are not a vanilla townie. I really want to hear more from Sath about why he was asking the question and his take on BA's answer.
    The whole point is that I have 0 issue revealing my name, just there is no reason to when one person asks for it and I think the majority of people would agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drixx View Post
    Yes ... I'm also quite curious about what Sathoris saw that made him want to know. From what I can tell with google, I can't see how a nameclaim would be a strong way to discern someone's role, but I suppose it's possible. It's unusual for Sathoris to so directly go for someone like that and then not follow up at all, but perhaps the fact that the rest of us have taken notice is what he wanted? I wish he would show up and clarify.

    My gut instinct would also be to not give my name, even as a VT, because if someone has figured out some way from the Warhammer books and games to have an idea of what sort of role certain names are more likely to have, giving up a name that isn't likely to have any role simply helps narrow down who might have the power roles for the mafia.

    At first I was a bit put off by Bad Ash's response but I think maybe the gut response might also be the smart response. I personally don't see any way a name claim is helpful to the scum, but that doesn't completely rule it out.
    I believe that lately in a lot of our games a lot of people have been "here I am! I am vanilla townie don't lynch me!" thinking they are doing good, but it is actually giving the mafia a better shot at taking out a power role. They know everyone who is townie. Someone revealing they are vanilla either by name or self claim actually hurts the town.



    Non-quoted thought: I feel like mafia don't want to discuss or approach sensitive issues because it could draw attention to them. I think we had a sensitive issue with my vote that subsequent people intentionally avoided by not quoting/answering questions I posed to the general public. I think they should be put under a microscope and we see what we got.

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Ash View Post
    Non-quoted thought: I feel like mafia don't want to discuss or approach sensitive issues because it could draw attention to them. I think we had a sensitive issue with my vote that subsequent people intentionally avoided by not quoting/answering questions I posed to the general public. I think they should be put under a microscope and we see what we got.
    It has been kind of an odd day one with spurts of posting and a lot of people not really talking about the things which have come up or trying to get other conversations going. I feel like we're headed for a rushed lynch or a mislynch, and I don't mean to bring up the whole theorycrafting argument about day 1 lynching, because I think we've fairly well settled that.

    So I'm a bit irked at folks who aren't really participating, but with the holiday weekend and many Universities having just started up in the last week or the next week and people getting their kids ready for the new school year and stuff, there's loads of reasons why folks haven't been around ... but it has made for a frustrating day one. Aside from Sathoris and you with that early brief interaction and some speculation about whether there might be a cult, we haven't really gotten a whole lot done this day phase and it's running out rapidly.

    Who, specifically would you like to see show up to answer questions and what makes them stand out to you BA?

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrotechnician View Post
    Are we really going to take the time to have a discussion of what defines a lurker? Maybe I just know from playing so many games, but I know which players I should expect a large number of posts from and which ones I shouldn't just based on previous play, if that number of posts is more or less than normal then I could potentially see that as odd but there are many reasons that something like this could happen, less free time, more free time, away on vacation, what have you. Yes, going after lurkers seems to be the back up option, but that's what it should be. It shouldn't be the first thing right out of the gate on a day phase. "Hey guys! Instead of trying to find scum, lets just take out these lurkers!" "Yeah, Yeah! Good idea!"
    I agree with you that sometimes going for a lurker rather than a random person is a good plan.

    My previous post was intended to get a feel of how Numbers (is that what we are calling you?) thinks and how he defines a lurker. I haven't played with neither him so far, so I'm trying to get a feel of who I'm playing with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drixx View Post
    As for the last question, only CG could say, and I doubt he will. I would speculate, based solely upon the role "The Fifth" used a few games ago, that a cult would be unable to recruit a mafia member ... but it may be unwise to assume or take for certain that something is so simply because it has been so in the past.
    Cults normally cannot recruit mafia or any other roles that know of other people's alignment (masons for example). Reason for that is that once that person gets recruited, the identities of above mentioned players is exposed to the cult. That's how I see it at least.

    As of now, I see no clear candidates for a lynch. I guess it's all up to Sathoris to show up and speak his mind.

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    I'm still very much interested in Bad Ash's name and I'll even sweeten the deal for him. Give me your name horse master, and I shall give you mine. Until BA decides to smarten up.

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    Absolutely screams scum to me. Also would like to know your name, sir.

    Reason I've been mia is because of work. Will be busy next weekend too.

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Vote: Sathoris

    I don't know why you wish to know everyone's name, and why you would be entitled to them anyhow, but I don't see how this helps town in any way.

    I also don't think you're mafia since drawing this much attention to yourself seems like a bad play.

    Frankly, I don't know what's going on here but you're the only sore thumb that's sticking out to me as of right now.

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    Re: Warhammer 40K Mafia Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillinnicus View Post
    Vote: Sathoris

    I don't know why you wish to know everyone's name, and why you would be entitled to them anyhow, but I don't see how this helps town in any way.

    I also don't think you're mafia since drawing this much attention to yourself seems like a bad play.

    Frankly, I don't know what's going on here but you're the only sore thumb that's sticking out to me as of right now.
    You don't think he's mafia ... but you voted for him? I mean ... it's not like he's in any danger of getting ninja locked but why on earth would you vote for someone and then say you don't think they're mafia. What's the point? People have been asking Sathoris to explain himself all day and so far as I can tell he's not all that intent on giving a satisfying response just yet. I don't think your vote is gonna change that.

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