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    IncGamers Member Archone's Avatar
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    Re: Can Infinity (Conviction) break cold immunity?

    Average dmg is low.

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    Re: Can Infinity (Conviction) break cold immunity?

    Compared to what?

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    Re: Can Infinity (Conviction) break cold immunity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Namtar View Post
    Note that everything Clervis said about Infinity not being able to break 117% cold resistance applies equally to lightning resistance. I've heard that lightning immunities of that degree are less common than their cold immune counterparts. I haven't examined the data myself, but if it's true, that is an issue with the switch from lightning to cold.
    The Amazon Basin Diablo II wiki contains lists of immunities:

    Immune to Fire
    Immune to Lightning
    Immune to Cold

    Quote Originally Posted by Clervis View Post
    I'm sure some people might use Lower Resist charges on switch, but it's probably more trouble than it's worth.
    Inherent immunities tend to be multiples of 5, so the Infinity rune word will remove 115% fire, lightning and cold immunities, while combining it with any level Lower Resist charges will remove 120% immunities. If an area never has any 120% immunities, or it can have 125% immunities or greater, then it isn't worth swapping weapons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Namtar View Post
    I'm skeptical. It is true that lightning tends to have a lower minimum damage and a higher maximum damage, but how do you figure that cold damage is "rather low"?
    It's been my impression that, at least before resistance is taken into account, lightning damage tends to have the highest maximum and average damage but often has as little as 1 minimum damage; fire damage tends to have lower average damage but much higher minimum damage, making it much more consistent; cold damage tends to be comparable to but lower than fire damage to balance any advantage from any chilling or freezing effect.

    This is only an impression, though, so it may not hold up to close scrutiny when comparing the contents of the following Amazon Basin Diablo II wiki pages:

    Fire Damage
    Lightning Damage
    Cold Damage

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    Re: Can Infinity (Conviction) break cold immunity?

    Quote Originally Posted by onderduiker View Post
    It's been my impression that, at least before resistance is taken into account, lightning damage tends to have the highest maximum and average damage but often has as little as 1 minimum damage; fire damage tends to have lower average damage but much higher minimum damage, making it much more consistent; cold damage tends to be comparable to but lower than fire damage to balance any advantage from any chilling or freezing effect.
    Yeah, that's my impression too. If by "rather low" Archone meant "the average skill damage is lower for the cold spells than it is for the fire spells" then that does make sense and we merely interpret "rather low" in totally different ways. I don't do single-tree casters myself, because of the immunity problem, but I've seen Blizzard sorcs in action and I wouldn't describe their damage output as "rather low." It's not the highest of any possible build in the game or anything, but it's far from the lowest.

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    Re: Can Infinity (Conviction) break cold immunity?

    Fire also has very high, like sorc fireball does stupendous damage absent resists

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