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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

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    Bob, if there's a lawyer in the neighbourhood, then demand back half of that money, for you your wife and your children, back to the limitation period. When assuming that it's 2 children and 10 years and that inflation ourweighs interests of those debts, it's 4x12x10x40/2 = $9600, to be spent on throwing a huge party. If he pays, expect another 60 parties like that in the recent future
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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

    Yeah, why so upset about the "queer marrige" issue? Just allow it, period.

    You may have your point about homosexual marriage and about the proper amount of respect for fallen soldiers (I share the second with you BTW), but the issues shouldn't be instrumentalized for other purposes. I think your comparison is silly and ridiculous, but let's spin it a bit further.

    Let's say a president is expected to spend a certain amount on fallen soldiers, let's say on Sunday between church and lunch, i.e. one hour a week. There were about 12324 weeks since the founding of the US, so when assuming that a million US soldiers died since 1776, it's less than 45 seconds per soldier. In contrast, how many homosexuals have there been in total since 1776? When assuming that 5% of all humans are interested in the same sex, it's 15 millions in the US *right now* and perhaps another 15 millions when summing up all previous generations (probably more, but whatever). So even if every homosexual deserved just 10% of the time for a fallen soldier once in his lifetime (4.5 seconds, that's no more than a handshake), it would be 3 hours a week. Comparing is subtracting the one from the other which leaves nothing for fallen soldiers and still two hours a week for homosexuals.

    That's full of silliness, of course, and not my opinion at all, but I don't think the amount of silliness per word is any higher than in your comparison .
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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

    Quote Originally Posted by krischan View Post
    Yeah, why so upset about the "queer marrige" issue? Just allow it, period.
    Given the jag you just went on; I thought at first you had mistakenly cross-posted!
    Quote Originally Posted by krischan View Post
    That's full of silliness, of course, and not my opinion at all, but I don't think the amount of silliness per word is any higher than in your comparison .
    It's much sillier, and far too silly at any rate.



    My point was not silly, and it was that we're lionizing someone for "coming out of the closet" after having strung along a woman for several years, where actually important issues and the sacrifices which <real> heroes make are ignored at best, and more commonly are spat upon and derided. The American Socialist/Democrats generally despise the American military, but they suffered so much during the elections after Vietnam for their conduct that they have purposefully toned down their hateful rhetoric.

    EDIT - another perfect case in point:
    Two new studies: Gun crime has dropped dramatically over last 20 years — and most Americans have no idea


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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmervyn View Post
    Given the jag you just went on; I thought at first you had mistakenly cross-posted!
    Well, two postings sneaked between this

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    the President goes out of his way to say he "couldn't be prouder" of a queer basketball player, but has no interest in discussing the four dead in Benghazi
    and my posting. How could I ever know that anything could be posted during the 60 minutes I needed to make mine?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmervyn View Post
    My point was not silly (...)
    If your point was about Benghazi and homosexuals in separate, it would be all fine. But using the one in order to discredit the other makes no sense and it's weird. It's like saying that (*making up some animal parable*) a cow is not expected to invest time into supporting horse showjumping because it didn't show respect for the recent death of a farm dog during a wolf attack.
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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

    Quote Originally Posted by krischan View Post
    How could I ever know that anything could be posted during the 60 minutes I needed to make mine?
    You're a Mod; you're supposed to be omniscient if not omnipresent.
    Quote Originally Posted by krischan View Post
    If your point was about Benghazi and homosexuals in separate, it would be all fine. But using the one in order to discredit the other makes no sense and it's weird. It's like saying that (*making up some animal parable*) a cow is not expected to invest time into supporting horse showjumping because it didn't show respect for the recent death of a farm dog during a wolf attack.
    Simple disagreement with your claim. My issue is the completely misplaced societal emphasis, modeled by the President spending inordinate attention on the basketball player. In a similar vein, Sandra Fluke received a personal call from the Prez, where he & his cadre of flacks regularly called Sarah Palin far, FAR worse things for far longer than Rush Limbaugh called Fluke. Point being, the whole bread & circuses methodology has infected American society to a degree such that perceptions have become truly insane.

    Yet another example of this insanity - this was actually said: “A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made,”

    However, my original issue is that people are out for themselves to an unprecedented degree, because they are willing to hurt and cheat others to receive little more than table scraps.

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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

    What do you want Obama to do in regards to bengazi? Like what do you really expect? Do you want him to apologize for playing games around the election? Do you want him to let the video maker guy go? Obama can't bring those people back, and no one is "spitting on their graves". If anything, their deaths made Obama look really bad, so it's not like he's all excited about it. The whole bengazi thing is basically you want the president of the US to come out and say, hey, i lied. That's stupid and not going to happen. We all know they messed up. They didn't protect them, people died, and making someone come out and fall on a sword is pointless. Do you think lying in a debate is an impeachable offense? How about lying in a public speech? Sorry charlie, if that were the case, all of congress would be in jail. There's nothing that obama can do that will change anything.

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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

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    Do you think lying in a debate is an impeachable offense?
    Yes.

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    How about lying in a public speech?
    Yes.

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    Sorry charlie, if that were the case, all of congress would be in jail.
    Yes!! With that sort of thinking, there is hope for humanity yet.

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    In his 11-page ruling, Wright accused the plaintiffs of 'boldly probing the outskirts of the law'.
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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevinator View Post
    What do you want Obama to do in regards to bengazi? Like what do you really expect? Do you want him to apologize for playing games around the election?
    If all is as it appears after yesterday's testimony, it amounts to a single thing.

    TREASON.

    Aiding the enemy. The equivocations made by the traitor(s) for their reasons are immaterial.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevinator View Post
    Obama can't bring those people back, and no one is "spitting on their graves".
    What difference does it make that four American officers are dead in the line of duty, and a massive cover-up engineered to deflect criticism and blame? Ok, Hillary-vinator, I get your claims, and I call them vile B.S.



    Nobody died during Watergate, but with your hypocritical view, Nixon would have been a two-term President. High-ranking members of the administration screwed the pooch in a massive way for several months, their subordinates died because of it, cover-ups and whistle-blower intimidation were authorized at the highest levels, and a grotesque lie propagated by the Executive Branch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevinator View Post
    Do you think lying in a debate is an impeachable offense? How about lying in a public speech? Sorry charlie, if that were the case, all of congress would be in jail. There's nothing that obama can do that will change anything.
    I want whoever did this convicted of treason, which is the appropriate legal charge. If it had been a conservative, rather than THE WON, you'd be screaming for his head on a silver platter. However, since it is obviously either the current Executive or the one you hope for in 2016, you'd rather have lying murder-abetting filth in high office and instead you'll hyperventilate over the Pope and binders full of women.

    The fact that you can't recognize how corrupted your moral compass is speaks volumes.

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    Re: Pigford, or what's wrong with America.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmervyn View Post
    TREASON.
    With your logic, you are aiding the enemy as well by making these accusations in public.

    So here's a big to that silly accusation.
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