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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

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    Science isn't about proving something right, it's about proving it wrong.
    It's actually about proving it. Right or Wrong has little to do with it.

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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

    The scientific method is specifically designed to attempt to disprove a hypothesis.

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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

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    The scientific method is specifically designed to attempt to disprove a hypothesis.

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    And if it repeatly fails to do so the hypothesis become a theory then if significant a "natural law" etc.
    Generally accepted as Correct or Right.

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    And a theory is never considered true, simply that it failed to be proven wrong. Being proven wrong does not mean it was proven right.

    It is never considered as Correct, but as Accepted.
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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

    Semantics.

    It's as Right as "Never been incorrect" can make you over a the longest time we have measured.

    Established theory is the basis of future hypothesis.

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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

    Quote Originally Posted by BobCox2 View Post
    It's actually about proving it. Right or Wrong has little to do with it.
    Physics is pretty close to mathematics, so if you say "it's been proven", they understand "it's right", with no grey space.

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    And if it repeatly fails to do so the hypothesis become a theory then if significant a "natural law" etc.
    Generally accepted as Correct or Right.
    That's the grey space they would like to add. If we tried hard to measure things and we never found significant* deviations, the theory is good enough to describe things... for now!

    *: this is not an ambiguous term in physics, there's a definition for what's meant with it.
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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

    People Declare Themselves Married .
    Family, Friends, or Societal acceptance are only an extension of a personal commitment but can reinforce or discourage it.

    Few have positive responses from all parties.

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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

    Speaking from a scientist's point of view, what I'm trying to get at here is that whenever there is a hypothesis, one is not trying to prove it right, rather, we are trying to prove it wrong.

    Hence, nothing can ever be considered 100% proven, simply because facts can change and they do so all the time.

    Chances are everything I learned in physics and chemistry in the past few years will be mostly null within about 10 years from now.
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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

    Also holy off topic, Batman. Isn't this thread about G-ay marriage? :P

    Giving the right for same sex individuals to marry is simply the government being like "Okay, we're cool with this". It doesn't mean everyone is. Marriage rights for G-ays is simply the first step in a long process to acceptance.

    I feel like I've said this all before, but answering the first post in this thread:

    I don't think ministers should necessarily have to marry anyone they don't want to marry. I feel like we should respect their beliefs, but at the same time they should respect ours. AKA being civil about things, and trying to understand the other side's point of view.

    I am 100% for G-ay marriage, but I can understand how some may not be.
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    Re: Let's talk *** marriage!

    It must be enough to point at my old postings about the issue, in this thread and in all the others of the last 5 years .

    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarChemist View Post
    Speaking from a scientist's point of view, what I'm trying to get at here is that whenever there is a hypothesis, one is not trying to prove it right, rather, we are trying to prove it wrong.
    Trying to prove it wrong or right, that sounds like being biased or of having decided for a side already. I think that leaving out terms like right and wrong leads to better descriptions. It's more like checking if a theory matches an observation or experiment or not.
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