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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarChemist View Post
    You say it yourself here, I'm being playful. This is Day 1 and no one has a clue about anything. I'm just trying to get some reactions, as it seem like you are as well. So far, I'm just kind of having fun with this. Classes just end for the term and I have way too much extra time on my hands.

    I'm alwaaays over confident. To the extent of being a bit of a prick at times...okay maybe all the time. But I like hearing you talk about over confidence, especially with you coming right out of the gate on this game. The just of us in this one are pretty overconfident, especially with the fairly informal nature of this game.

    A lot of us are saying we are past the joking phase of this game, I may have just extended, mine a bit, but really chances are, whomever we go after today is going to be a random guess and we'll all be crossing our fingers that it is scum. If we want to go the route of statistics on this one, there is a 2/9 chance that we lynch scum, assuming it's completely random.
    I think we've got enough leads to not make a completely random lynch, but thanks for the stats.

    My overconfidence is based on my gut. I'll trust it until it gets spilled. People post on D1, and I read people, there's no random lynch needed.

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderCat View Post
    Dragon vote: Moar

    Gwaihir is right, Day 1 (which is not followed by a night phase) is mostly fooling about and throwing votes all over the place to cause reactions, as there's nothing else to go by.
    When does the shift to serious discussion normally occur? When should it occur?

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by Goryani View Post
    When does the shift to serious discussion normally occur? When should it occur?
    It shall occur when the lord almighty ThunderCat says so!

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by Caluin Graye View Post
    I'd be willing to vote for kestegs. He's sort of... all over the place. I dislike the "I'll explain my vote" post almost 24 hours after he placed the vote, citing 'obvious scum is obvious'.
    All over the place? kestegs seems pretty locked on target to me. Do you agree or disagree with BPC's characterization of kestegs' focus? Perhaps you meant something different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caluin Graye View Post
    Almost seems like it was a random vote that got a little bit of scrutiny, and now he's scrambling for a reason to justify the vote.
    What scrutiny did kestegs receive as a result of his vote?

    I disagree with the general statement as well. Scrambling would sound like "oh it was a random vote." Instead I see "vote stands" + "every post screams scum." A random vote really can't be scrutinized (it's random!) nor should it require any scrambling (it's random!).

    Quote Originally Posted by Caluin Graye View Post
    Maybe I'll feel better when the reasoning is presented.
    What about your own reads and reasons? Is BPC's reactions reasonable for someone receiving a random vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caluin Graye View Post
    Drixx comes across as very Drixxy to me. Take that for what you will, but he's one of my very few exceptions to the 'scum defend themselves harder than town' rule.
    In what way did Drixx defend himself?

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    A Haiku For Kestegs:

    Hey, Stop Pretending;
    You know you want it, Kestegs.
    Take a chance on me

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by Goryani View Post
    All over the place? kestegs seems pretty locked on target to me. Do you agree or disagree with BPC's characterization of kestegs' focus? Perhaps you meant something different.
    I didn't necessarily mean specifically his votes.

    Second post, he claims VT for no real reason. I can't really see a town reason for doing this.

    Less than two hours into the game, he's got an 'obvious scum' read on someone who's posted only once.

    After Drixx being notified about no possibility of VI existing, with charts to show, he asks Bad Ash if he soft-claimed tracker. Granted, this could be him just joking around and I'm not seeing the humor tags due to poor HTML coding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goryani View Post
    What scrutiny did kestegs receive as a result of his vote?

    I disagree with the general statement as well. Scrambling would sound like "oh it was a random vote." Instead I see "vote stands" + "every post screams scum." A random vote really can't be scrutinized (it's random!) nor should it require any scrambling (it's random!).
    This is all true, with another reading of the events. I think I may have been projecting some of my own preconceived notions, and simply assumed others had agreed with me. After all, if I'm seeing it, someone else must have too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goryani View Post
    Is BPC's reactions reasonable for someone receiving a random vote?
    Except it's not a random vote.

    Generally, though - no. His reactions are defensive in nature, instead of aggressive. He OMGUS votes kestegs. He claims randomness the bane of Day 1 voting. However, I'm seeing this as new player actions, rather than scummy behaviour.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goryani View Post
    In what way did Drixx defend himself?
    Did you miss the whole part where he reactive voted you and you two are having a discussion about who may or may not be scum between you?

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by Caluin Graye View Post
    Except it's not a random vote.
    I was referring to your characterization of "Almost seems like it was a random vote." It looks like you thought kestegs vote was a random vote so you should have judged BPC's response to a random vote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caluin Graye View Post
    Generally, though - no. His reactions are defensive in nature, instead of aggressive. He OMGUS votes kestegs. He claims randomness the bane of Day 1 voting. However, I'm seeing this as new player actions, rather than scummy behaviour.
    And here is the judgement.... and color me surprised. I would not have guessed you held that opinion based on your responses to kestegs and BPC. It's also quite the free pass given to someone in their third game (and has previously said he's played mafia before - though not forum mafia).

    Quote Originally Posted by Caluin Graye View Post
    Did you miss the whole part where he reactive voted you and you two are having a discussion about who may or may not be scum between you?
    I didn't miss it but neither would I call it defending himself. I saw offense.

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Unvote: Drixx
    Vote: BipolarChemist


    I'm not sold on Drixx's towniness but it's been over half a day phase with no vote movement. His initial reaction still bugs me. His relative silence since post 58 compared to the high number of posts bugs me.

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by Goryani View Post
    Unvote: Drixx
    Vote: BipolarChemist


    I'm not sold on Drixx's towniness but it's been over half a day phase with no vote movement. His initial reaction still bugs me. His relative silence since post 58 compared to the high number of posts bugs me.
    I raid in World of Warcraft Tuesday - Thursdays and am the bank/mats/Assitant Raid Lead/Member Relations officer for my guild, so on Tuesdays I have to sort through all the mat contributions, get people's flasks and potions mailed out to them (after I get elixer and potion masters to make them), cook up greater feasts (we 25 man raid), organized the gbank, sell excess mats and buy what we need. Then we raid. Then I handle any performance or behavior issues (ARL/Member relations).

    So on those days, I tend to be pretty tied up for late afternoon until bed. I've also been playing some D3 again recently and some SW:ToR.

    I still feel that casting a quick vote on day one is a scum tell (in the games I've participated in it's almost always a scum who does it), but with votes all spread out we are not likely to get much of a lynch going.

    Unvote: Goryani
    Vote: Bipolar Chemist

    Honestly if we're going to lynch somewhat blind, I'd prefer a lurker but for some reason we're giving them a pass today it seems.
    Drixx's HC Sept Progress

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    Re: The Hole - Mini Mafia game

    Quote Originally Posted by Drixx View Post
    Honestly if we're going to lynch somewhat blind, I'd prefer a lurker but for some reason we're giving them a pass today it seems.
    It really is a blind lynch isn't it? It would totally make sense for me to be loud and out there is I were scum...right? I'd be for a lurker vote too. I haven't heard much of anything from the normally quite loud Bad Ash.

    Unvote: Kestegs
    Vote: Bad Ash

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