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    IncGamers Member Archone's Avatar
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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    They changed it a year ago, so ladder 10 was actually the first 6months long ladder!


    First child? My gf has two kids, a 3year old boy and a 6 year old girl!

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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    Thank you all for warm welcome!
    I'm always eager to hug free items, especially when it comes to new (poor) characters. Dawnmaster already helped me a lot with some toys, with his Wizzy I'm capable of running Nightmare Mephisto.
    As Frankel have stated, killing him isn't a problem (ok, I use moat trick), but getting to him is somewhat dangerous (NM) or nearly impossible (Hell).

    PS. Congratulations, Dawnmaster!

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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    Quote Originally Posted by Archone View Post
    They changed it a year ago, so ladder 10 was actually the first 6months long ladder!


    First child? My gf has two kids, a 3year old boy and a 6 year old girl!
    Yup first child (if you don't count our dog and 2 cats )
    Got a thread about it in the off topic forum "New life in Dawnmaster's mansion"

    Quote Originally Posted by inkantuj View Post
    Thank you all for warm welcome!
    I'm always eager to hug free items, especially when it comes to new (poor) characters. Dawnmaster already helped me a lot with some toys, with his Wizzy I'm capable of running Nightmare Mephisto.
    As Frankel have stated, killing him isn't a problem (ok, I use moat trick), but getting to him is somewhat dangerous (NM) or nearly impossible (Hell).

    PS. Congratulations, Dawnmaster!
    No prob good sir, Hope to catch you online again soonish!
    Last edited by Dawnmaster; 23-03-2013 at 16:44. Reason: typo

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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    Although its years old this might help u on 2)
    http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...Guide-Season-9

    if it ain't on the list, it's probably worth only Pgems.

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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    Thanks for the link, Royalairfarce. Presented guide surely helped me to start trading in D2, although I still have some questions. If it's not BM, let me ask here instead of trading forums:


    1) What has changed in Europe Ladder since this guide was posted? It claims that HRs are worth 20 to 24 Ists and that Sur is worth a half Ber/Jah (which gives 10-12 Ists). I tried to sell Sur for the lower price, but everyone on polish channel laughed hard, suggesting it's 6 Ists MAX. How many Mal/Ists should I aim then? How much for HR in 2013?


    2) I have 63 life Waterwalks and 19/242 Ravenfrost. How much they are worth in your opinion? According to latest guide, 1 Ist for Ww and 2 Ist for Raven are reasonable, but I am still a rookie trader.


    3) I acquired a 16/13 necro torch for one Mal. Good trade for me?


    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    Hi mate! Things looking good?

    1. Prices vary from ladder to ladder. Current ladder prices for a normal player (Not people from other forums) regarding runes are about these:
    Lem = 1/3 Pul
    Pul = 0,5 Um
    Um = 0,5 Mal
    Mal = 0,5 Ist
    Ist = Ist (Yeah ;D)

    Gul = 1,5 Ist
    Vex = 3-4 ist
    Ohm = 2 Vex or 6-8 ist
    Lo = 2 Ohm or ~12-13 ist
    Sur = 0,5 Ber/Jah or ~8 ists
    Hr = Ber or Jah = ~16-18 ists
    Cham = 0,5 Zod = 3-5 ists
    Zod = 6-10 ists or highest bidder. (This rune is the rarest of them all)

    2. Youll learn that non perfect uniques are hard to sell now. When the ladder progresses, the demand is only high for perfect items.
    In your case, the Waterwalk should have perf ed% with 60+life or have 65life.
    Raven need either 20dex/200+ar or 18-19dex/245+ar. Yours are close, so 2 ists shouldnt be too hard!

    3. I think you could have gotten it a tidy bit cheaper. For a beginner, an Um less could be quite a deal though.. :P


    Dont be afraid to ask questions in this thread! Its marked for me, since Ive posted here, so Ill keep an close eye what you write here!




    Peace and love

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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    Yes, everything's fine, I started to fill my mules with lots of stuff (mostly trash, but I found vipermagi or thundergod's vigor too).
    Now it's time to learn 'how to buy skillers & not overpay'. Fortunately I'm interested in Summon skillers for my fishymancer, not Combats So, how other mods affect the price of a skiller? How much would pure +1 summon cost? I'd like to utilise my Sur rune for a couple of those. Also, I tried to buy Arm of King Leoric, but ppl want more than Pul.

    I'll let you know about my progress Cheers!

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    Re: First MF Blizz Sorc, need some help

    Ive tried to find one for myself, AoKL, but yeah people want Um-Mal. Which is ok, since I can afford it, and its by far the best summon wand out there.

    I usually value skillers based on what tree its for. Then I multiply it x amount for what kind of add it has.

    There are 6 noteworthy adds:

    Life (5-45)
    Strength (3-6)
    Dexterity (3-6)
    Faster Run/Walk (7%)
    Faster Hit Recovery (12%)
    Extra Gold from Monsters (10-40%)

    Dex/Str can be directly translated to life(vitality) so they cant be as valueable as those with life.
    Even if life is the most popular, some strict builds require other things. So these are tradeable, and if yours have any other adds, they tend to be called plain.

    I copied these from the EUSCL 9 Price Guide from the Trade Value section.
    You should really post any valuation questions there instead. Not only me answer questions there!!

    A little adjusted to what I think is correct. (All is my opinion after all)

    Paladin Combat = 2-4 Ist
    Offensive Auras = Mal
    Defensive Auras = No value

    Lightning = 2 Ist- 3 Ist
    Fire = Um
    Cold = Um-Mal

    Warcry = Um
    Masteries/B Combat = No Value

    Javelin = Um-Mal
    Passive & Magic = Pul
    Bow = Pul

    Psn & Bone = Mal-Ist
    Nec Summoning = Pul-Um
    Curses = No value

    Elemental = Um-Mal
    Shapeshifting = Pul
    Dru Summoning = Pul

    Traps = Mal-Ist
    Shadow = Mal
    Martial Arts = Pul

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