Returning to the Roots - Mini mafia game

[Gwaihir]

I didn't read much of the dead threads after the SoIaF game, how would we have lost if Moar hadn't been lynched?
It seems like it would've been easier with Moar still alive.

Not going to vote yet until there's some more discussion, more chances to catch someone slipping up. :P

Why did you feel the need to comment on not voting?


OT
DX -Ankeli+Moar lynch me
NX -Moar can't protect self, Ankeli kills Moar. Phil resurrects
DX+1 - no lynch, 1v1
NX+1 - Ankeli kills Phil, Phil kills Ankeli. Both die.
/OT

[Zokar]

Pretty much this. Although cop+doc may be a close second for strongest. And a jailkeep alone might be just as bad as the doc. The real tricky part is that we don't know who is in the game, or have any way of finding out if a role has been killed.

I agree that cop+jailkeep looks the best for town and worst for mafia.

How is cop/jailer better than cop/doc?

[Moar]

Why did you feel the need to comment on not voting?


OT
DX -Ankeli+Moar lynch me
NX -Moar can't protect self, Ankeli kills Moar. Phil resurrects
DX+1 - no lynch, 1v1
NX+1 - Ankeli kills Phil, Phil kills Ankeli. Both die.
/OT

You forgot that I could kill too, so I'd kill Ankeli. It simply didn't matter who got lynched as long as the two left killed each other.

[Moar]

How is cop/jailer better than cop/doc?

Because the jailer know who is scum while the doc knows who isn't scum. So the jailer leeds to a 100% lynch while the doc can just say who not to lynch.

[Zokar]

Because the jailer know who is scum while the doc knows who isn't scum. So the jailer leeds to a 100% lynch while the doc can just say who not to lynch.

Not true. If there are 2 mafia and a jailer jails a mafia, what happens? Somebody still dies and the jailer does not know he jailed a mafia.

[Bad Ash]

Because the jailer know who is scum while the doc knows who isn't scum. So the jailer leeds to a 100% lynch while the doc can just say who not to lynch.

A doc knows who isn't scum? Can you clarify what you meant by this

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[Moar]

A doc knows who isn't scum? Can you clarify what you meant by this

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Because scum doesn't kill themselves. So if the doc save goes through and there is no NK the person saved can't be scum.
That logic doesn't work if there's doc+jailkeeper around. Seems to be a bit more complicated with that combination. Haven't thought through that yet.

[Gwaihir]

Because the jailer know who is scum while the doc knows who isn't scum. So the jailer leeds to a 100% lynch while the doc can just say who not to lynch.

Actually, this is not completely true. A jailer does not know if he jailed the killer or the victim.

CG: Can the mafia role cop kill and investigate on the same night if his partner is live? What about if his partner is dead?

[Moar]

Not true. If there are 2 mafia and a jailer jails a mafia, what happens? Somebody still dies and the jailer does not know he jailed a mafia.

Didn't think about that. I assumed the goon was the killer as long as he lived. Checked the link from the other thread and it says there that the role cop can do both no matter if the goon is alive.

[Moar]

Actually, this is not completely true. A jailer does not know if he jailed the killer or the victim.

CG: Can the mafia role cop kill and investigate on the same night if his partner is live? What about if his partner is dead?

Also true. I need to think this though again. Obviously didn't work earlier with my sleep-deprived brain.