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    IncGamers Member Archone's Avatar
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    Keys - What do you know?

    Ive gathered 3x9 keys now, which I will use myself. I dont own a single torch yet.

    But do any of you guys have any trade experience with those, this ladder?

    #Is a keyset ist again? (3x3)

    #How common are the Dest keys now?

    #Do people do alot of T+H vs Dest key trades?



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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    I've been selling my for an ist. From my experience most people ask for ist um or ist mal, but nobody doing torch runs wants to pay that, so you'll wait for hours (on battlenet) to find a buyer. You will get an ist on the forums I imagine. However if you have an uber capable smiter, do the run, unid torches go for 2 ist - 3 ist.

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    from my experience atm:

    # 3x3 is worth IST or IST+small add like PUL (come to POL-1 to sell it easily ;-) )
    # fairly uncommon, a lot of people are looking for them
    # you can trade dest keys for 3-4 other keys easily

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    3x3 I still believe is worth Ist. Mal late game. I've found selling keys to be more profitable than running the torches.

    Drop rates haven't changed from what I saw last season, which were (p1);
    1/68 chance for a Key of Terror
    1/56 chance for a Key of Hate
    1/61 chance for a Key of Destruction


    1 Destruction key = 3 Terror/Hate

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    I sold one set of 3x3 for 1.5 Ist about a week ago.

    I trade D-keys for others 1:3

    It used to be a 1:2 ratio before patch 1.13.
    In the seasons after I've seen anything from 1:3 to 1:10 ratio. A lot of bots I guess.

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    How can bots increase the Dest key value to 1:10? :O

    Ive not traded any keys yet, I like to find them myself, and I want to find my own pala torch. Already found a decent Sorc T.


    Thx for any inputs!!!

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Archone View Post
    How can bots increase the Dest key value to 1:10? :O

    Ive not traded any keys yet, I like to find them myself, and I want to find my own pala torch. Already found a decent Sorc T.


    Thx for any inputs!!!
    Yeah, I've never seen that and if anything they should decrease the trade value. I've only seen 1:3 and that's an easy sell. On the drop rate though, I looked again and found these #'s. it doesn't seem to be so obvious what the real rates are...

    T:
    p1 - 1:14
    p3 - 1:11
    p5 - 1:10

    H:
    p1 - 1:11
    p3 - 1:8.61
    p5 - 1:8.01
    p7 - 1:7.81

    D:
    p1 - 1:12
    p3 - 1:9.61
    p5 - 1:9.01
    p7 - 1:8.81

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Archone View Post
    How can bots increase the Dest key value to 1:10? :O!!!
    I have never seen a 1:10 ratio but a ratio of more than 1:3 (1:4 or 1:5) is not rare.
    I think that bots are set for H and T keys but not D which is a little more technical to get .
    So botters are overwhelmed with H and T and are ready to pay the hard price for the D they don't have.
    My 2 pences.

    I haven't started my UT farming this ladder, my Baba is still missing parts of the farming suit.
    So I don't have any idea of the present trade rates for keys.

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    I saw 9 Hate go for 1 Dest yesterday.

    Now running Arcane is in my opinion, a bit of a waste of time for the legit player... & Countess I do mostly for runes.

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    Re: Keys - What do you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexur View Post
    I saw 9 Hate go for 1 Dest yesterday.

    Now running Arcane is in my opinion, a bit of a waste of time for the legit player... & Countess I do mostly for runes.
    Insane! But I guess it is early ladder still. I agree though, on a per time basis, I think running countess is the best, then just trade up for the rest.

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