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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by pulli View Post
    Which is utterly boring... You go quickly over that sentence, but trying to "beat" the game in such a way that blizzard thinks "lol didn't expect someone to do that" is FUN.
    it's only fun for a small segment of the audience. buy hey, they gave you guys inferno (lulz..which they nerfed) and later MP. which is the problem with D3. they want to have their cake and eat it too and as a result. it's a crazy quilt example of game design.
    Quote Originally Posted by pulli View Post
    Blizzard is there to serve us. We are customers, and the customer is king.
    they are sevring you, but diablo is an old IP and they're attempting to make a game that serves both a targeted and broad audience at the same time. i think it's funny watching them fly by the seat of their pants.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Hopefully no gear treadmill.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by pulli View Post
    Blizzard is there to serve us. We are customers, and the customer is king.
    This is the problem with every single thing you post on the boards; you don't realize that the customer is not the king.

    Shareholders are the kings. Blizzard exists to make a bunch of money for the shareholders, not to coddle customers who demand unrealistic things from their products.There is a certain area where customers' and shareholders' desires both overlap, but you demand everything from the game without expecting to pay extra for it. If you and others like you would pay extra for your otherwise unrealistic demands, maybe you and shareholders could reach a meeting point. But you won't, so it won't happen.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Did you ignore my question intentionally?What? How would ads make a no-AH mode viable? What revenue are they losing by having people who don't use the RMAH play a mode without one? I don't think my question has anything to do with whether or not there is a GAH. Replace the "RMAH" in my question with "RMAH/GAH" if you like.
    I was not responding to that post. But quite all microtransaction games want non paying players, because those non paying players let the paying players feel special. This is the reason why some of the microtransaction games give so much away for free: A minority of people is willing to pay if that gives them a clear edge over the majority, but this only works if you have those non paying players.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Karth View Post
    This is the problem with every single thing you post on the boards; you don't realize that the customer is not the king.

    Shareholders are the kings. Blizzard exists to make a bunch of money for the shareholders, not to coddle customers who demand unrealistic things from their products.There is a certain area where customers' and shareholders' desires both overlap, but you demand everything from the game without expecting to pay extra for it. If you and others like you would pay extra for your otherwise unrealistic demands, maybe you and shareholders could reach a meeting point. But you won't, so it won't happen.
    No customers are the kings because if the customers demands are not met there will be no revenue from customer purchases which then means shareholders will not invest because they see a failed product and business, the shareholders are secondary or atleast the relation between shareholders and customers is binary to the company but really customers are first.



    Raising the level cap is bad for various reasons and also unnecessary. I will say raising paragon leveling may be ok but look at Diablo2 there wasnt any level cap raising because there was level 99 which was hard enough to reach and we already have paragon levels for leveling progression. Paragon is supposed to be equivalent to D2 level 99 BUT unfortunately they make it easy and give us + bonus xp. What raising the level cap means is creating an item reset scenario like World of Warcraft. The problem is that Diablo3 and WoW are different types of item games. Why do we need item resets - we don't in Diablo3. That is counter intuitive to many ways how the Diablo 3 item game works and is different form WoW. We will lose all of our current legendarys that provide us with creating special scenario builds why would the devs completely throw away that effort they put into that - answer is or should be, they don't, they would want to add to that because making all of those now useless would take away what creates the depth (what bit we have) from D3 in items and builds. Bul Kathos, Immortal Kings, Tal Rasha's, Frost burns these are all iconic legendarys from D2. Bottom line is its not necessary for Diablo 3, maybe in MMO's it is but D3's item game is different from WoW.
    The only place a "type of level raising" would make sense is if they introduce additional passives and skills to the original classes in the expansion. If they do add new skills I would say the new passives should be unlocked at a certain PARAGON level and not raising the other leveling which would cause an item reset, perhaps say level 70 paragon level you unlock your first new passive - personally I think this would add much better incentive to level paragon levels so this sort of sheds a new light on paragon leveling instead of it being only for stats/mf/gf. I think it will also give those sort of "elitist" or "hardcore" players a little more to boast about as people see them in public games using these high level skills that they grinded out.
    Last edited by ShadowMatrix; 18-11-2012 at 11:36.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    The disappointment of the audience Blizzard tried to please was so big, that it will require a massive expansion in order to convince those to look back at Diablo 3, spend another probable 60 bucks an give it a second shot.

    If they use it as an advantage, they can surprise the audience who is now so disappointed that they won't bother to expect much from the expansion anymore. They are in a better position now that the bar has been lowered on the expectations for Diablo 3.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by themeros View Post
    The disappointment of the audience Blizzard tried to please was so big, that it will require a massive expansion in order to convince those to look back at Diablo 3, spend another probable 60 bucks an give it a second shot.

    If they use it as an advantage, they can surprise the audience who is now so disappointed that they won't bother to expect much from the expansion anymore. They are in a better position now that the bar has been lowered on the expectations for Diablo 3.
    business wise it isn't a clever position: instead of having everyone to "buy it without thought" people now first expect reviews & only buy if those things are positive.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMatrix View Post
    No customers are the kings because if the customers demands are not met there will be no revenue from customer purchases which then means shareholders will not invest because they see a failed product and business, the shareholders are secondary or atleast the relation between shareholders and customers is binary to the company but really customers are first.
    Customers frequently ask for more than they are willing to make do with and more than is profitable for a company to provide. Why? They don't care about the bloody business, they want what they want and they want it now!

    Catering to every often-unreasonable demand of someone is a very poor way of making a profit. Without profit, shareholders will find new corporate leadership, leadership more inclined to make the company profitable.

    Customers are not kings, issuing orders that must be followed lest they call the headsman. They're cattle, to be kept fat and happy as possible without wasting excess resources on them.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Wow what did the US-based world succumb to? That saying is ages old, and it IS based around a truth. And I know most of the modern companies which have roots in the 17-18th century do live by that credo.

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    Re: Gamespy: What we want from a Diablo 3 expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Karth View Post
    Customers frequently ask for more than they are willing to make do with and more than is profitable for a company to provide. Why? They don't care about the bloody business, they want what they want and they want it now!

    Catering to every often-unreasonable demand of someone is a very poor way of making a profit. Without profit, shareholders will find new corporate leadership, leadership more inclined to make the company profitable.



    Customers are not kings, issuing orders that must be followed lest they call the headsman. They're cattle, to be kept fat and happy as possible without wasting excess resources on them.
    Profits can't be made AT ALL if there aren't SALES from CUSTOMERS. It comes down to the customer - the investors will invest if the customer is buying and the company is making a profit, the company getting money from the investors is dependent on the customer buying the product while the company profits. There is nothing else to this. Customers come first. Whether customers are asking for more than a company can provide to make a profit is situational but we are arguing is who is more important the customer or investor and it is the customer it always will be.

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