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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    As it happens, I see a remarkable number of conservative blogs that have upbeat messages despite the commonly held views about disaster. There's little condemnation of Rombot, and a recognition that this was an election of ideas: on one side, you had "America, F**K YEAH!" and on the other you had binders, lady parts, envy, and Romnesia.*



    America lost. There's differing explanations about "why", some more compelling than others (no conservative, Cringely). Like I said, I've seen pretty upbeat attitudes despite that:



    *P.S. O'Reilly is a massive, ignorant putz. The Democrat party will never take the blame for the semi-pocalypse, they'll continue to blame Bush, the GOP, Hurricanes, and ATM's. The cretinous majority will believe them. Romney was wrong to believe it was only 47%.

    *P.P.S. Another good review, with religious tone - "America has changed, but God hasn't."

    *P.P.P.S. I read one from Smeggum's old site that I liked (NSFW language, no longer found) and another one from elsewhere just today.

    *P.P.P.P.S. Funny or Die accidentally spoke the truth:

    Last edited by jmervyn; 08-11-2012 at 17:36. Reason: borken link

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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    I believe that I was parodying the idea that there is somehow a material difference between rich folks who are greedy & rapacious and rich folks who are not. I was not trying to preach about the politics of envy (here, in the OTF? Are you mad?).

    After all, it's only right that some folks have more money than they can actually spend whilst there are others who can barely afford to feed & clothe themselves and their kids. I mean, what's the alternative? There isn't one.

    There are rich folks who are rich because of their hard work and talent, and there are poor folks who are poor despite their hard work and talent. There are rich folks who have contributed nothing to society and there are poor folks who are the same. This is all as it should be. Nobody is owed a life, you have to just grab what you can, within the limits of your own conscience.

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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by Glurin View Post
    Sure the Republicans can win, they just have to stop pandering to their lunatic fringe. Given that the US economy is still not great, this election should have been won by the Republicans, but they dug themselves into a hole by spending way too much effort trying to please the crazies.
    Right, because it's crazy to think that when you're spending way too much money, the solution is to not spend so much. Obviously we must spend even more. It's crazy to think that if the government is so big and obstructive and inefficient that it's causing problems that the solution is to shrink it and make it more efficient. We should make it even bigger and more mismanaged than ever. And of course, it's absolutely bat-**** insane to think people deserve to keep the money that they earn so it can be used to create more jobs and grow the economy. We HAVE to take it away and give it to companies that are not even remotely feasible and that go bankrupt soon after, as well as people who do jack **** all day long so they can buy more oreo cookies.
    Generic anger at the concept of government has been the default Republican position for the last four years (except that conflicts with a desire to maintain a huge army, provide your voting base with free medical care, or enforce religious beliefs on others, obviously). It doesn't appear to have got you very far. Maybe it might be worth thinking about what approach would win an election?

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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    A fantastic day for polling, science and reason. Hopefully it will eventually get to the point were we finally can have more of the socialism we desperately need, sometime before truck/taxi/bus drivers are automated away in the coming decades.



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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by jmervyn View Post
    What Glurin said. The Lefties throw around terms like "crazy" with great ease, as they destroy the country's underpinnings and double-down on ghastly waste. It really is "the grasshopper and the ant", except that now the locusts run the show.
    Isn't it more like "double-down for the seventh or eighth time"? We've been on this road for a good long while now. They got everything they wanted. Repeatedly. Things just keep getting worse and they keep telling us we need drive faster. That's kinda how a double-down scam works. You keep doubling-down so that when you win, you come out ahead. Thus they keep you hooked on that tiny, tiny glimmer of hope that it will work out in your favor and you'll become rich with no real effort on your part. Only you always lose your shirt before that can ever happen.

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    Nazdakka[/B]]Generic anger at the concept of government has been the default Republican position for the last four years (except that conflicts with a desire to maintain a huge army, provide your voting base with free medical care, or enforce religious beliefs on others, obviously). It doesn't appear to have got you very far. Maybe it might be worth thinking about what approach would win an election?
    It's not the concept of government that they are angry with. It's your concept of government. It is the antithesis of the ideals that the U.S. was founded on. It is what so many refugees from other countries risked their lives to get away from. It makes absolutely no logical sense, it's based on an unsustainable premise and it has failed miserably every time it's been tried.

    Also, if I wanted to win an election, obviously all I would have to do is promise to hand out free Glurin money and Glurin phones and call whoever I was running against an extremist nutjob that wants women and black people in chains. Worked well for Obama.
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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    The 2013 deficit is slashed. It will be slashed again and again as the war and tax cuts fade out. So. We voted for fiscal conservatism, over the guy who wanted to build 50 subs a year, maybe bomb some of that Iran, and cut taxes. Deal with it.

    And the lunatics who thought the Mi-Go had more than a 30% shot of winning, learn how to use the "no toss up" button on RealClearPolitics: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo..._toss_ups.html

    The results are never a surprise, for the people who trust facts and statistics more than their "gut". Then again, these people are more concerned with the extinction of life over something as piddling and mutable as numbers on a spreadsheet.

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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by Glurin View Post
    It's not the concept of government that they are angry with. It's your concept of government. It is the antithesis of the ideals that the U.S. was founded on. It is what so many refugees from other countries risked their lives to get away from. It makes absolutely no logical sense, it's based on an unsustainable premise and it has failed miserably every time it's been tried.

    Also, if I wanted to win an election, obviously all I would have to do is promise to hand out free Glurin money and Glurin phones and call whoever I was running against an extremist nutjob that wants women and black people in chains. Worked well for Obama.
    So, rage at whatever unspecified bits of government fit my 'concept', but not at the bits that directly benefit the Republican voting base, pander to their prejudices, or serve to bolster your national ego?

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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by LozHinge the Unhinged View Post
    I believe that I was parodying the idea that there is somehow a material difference between rich folks who are greedy & rapacious and rich folks who are not. I was not trying to preach about the politics of envy (here, in the OTF? Are you mad?).
    Oh, I know that, I was just playing your "analyse it to exhaustion" routine.
    Quote Originally Posted by LozHinge the Unhinged View Post
    There are rich folks who are rich because of their hard work and talent, and there are poor folks who are poor despite their hard work and talent. There are rich folks who have contributed nothing to society and there are poor folks who are the same.
    I wonder if you'll find this surprising: Significant numbers of the "super rich" voted Obama. This, also, should be unsurprising; for all the class warfare rhetoric, the establishment and Hollywood have been Leftist for quite some time; it's the stupid schmoes of the upper middle class who had delusions that there was some kind of meritocracy involved in the distribution.
    Quote Originally Posted by LozHinge the Unhinged View Post
    This is all as it should be. Nobody is owed a life, you have to just grab what you can, within the limits of your own conscience.
    That last part died, perhaps quite some time ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Glurin View Post
    Isn't it more like "double-down for the seventh or eighth time"? We've been on this road for a good long while now. They got everything they wanted. Repeatedly. Things just keep getting worse and they keep telling us we need drive faster. That's kinda how a double-down scam works. You keep doubling-down so that when you win, you come out ahead. Thus they keep you hooked on that tiny, tiny glimmer of hope that it will work out in your favor and you'll become rich with no real effort on your part. Only you always lose your shirt before that can ever happen.
    Yeah, that's true. Reagan was nowhere near the miracle-worker he is purported as being, nor was he the admired figure that might be dreamt of now - he was despised, hated, assassinated (attempted) by the Left because he threatened the existence of the USSR. Sadly, too many of us underestimated not only the legacy of the USSR's efforts but the truth behind the unsubstantiated Khrushchev quote.
    Quote Originally Posted by BryanM View Post
    The 2013 deficit is slashed. It will be slashed again and again as the war and tax cuts fade out. So. We voted for fiscal conservatism, over the guy who wanted to build 50 subs a year, maybe bomb some of that Iran, and cut taxes. Deal with it.
    You make me laugh, Bryan. We've had some truly capable trolls here over the years; you definitely need a hell of a lot more practice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nazdakka View Post
    So, rage at whatever unspecified bits of government fit my 'concept', but not at the bits that directly benefit the Republican voting base, pander to their prejudices, or serve to bolster your national ego?
    Naz, if you've forgotten, you proudly proclaimed your belief in "S"ocialism - you simply claimed without proof that it was somehow not the same as Communism. Resorted to the fable about "True", as I recall... I doubt Glurin would argue the reality that American Republicans have been Socialist as well, considering what he just said to me?

    By the bye, here's the foul-mouthed opinion piece I had read earlier; it's on a different one of Smeggie's old sites: "Are you Proud of Yourself America?"

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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    Naz, if you've forgotten, you proudly proclaimed your belief in "S"ocialism - you simply claimed without proof that it was somehow not the same as Communism.
    I think you must be thinking of someone else, I can't remember ever making that claim. Have you got a link to me saying that?

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    Re: Voting is the best revenge! (Election results 2012)

    You may not have said that previously, in the past, but now, presently, you currently did in fact say it, in the past. Put another way, you will have now had said that previously.

    krischan will now explain the use of tenses in my statement here.

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