Nice dodge! :admiring glance:What's illogical about it? I'm not saying that the USSR came up with -
Phase 1) Illicit funding & infiltration of Left-leaning institutions.
Phase 2) ???
Phase 3) True Communism!
Not saying you are illogical on this particular point. I merely observe that you are trying to fill in blanks with a hypothesis that is less convincing than the one I put forward - your suggestion requires evidence that is lacking whereas mine relies only on what we already know of human nature. I could mention Occam's Razor but I don't want to be modkilled - oh wait, we aren't playing Forum Mafia, are we. D'oh. OK, I'll refer to Maimonides, an early exponent of what it came to be known as.
I am not denying the existence of the Soviet efforts to destabilise the West, only its efficacy. Western society is following the course it is regardless of any outside agitation (as distinct from terrorism or threat of nuclear war).What I'm talking about was the incontrovertible fact that "Phase 1" occurred, on a significant level. I used to harangue my wife because she claimed the IRA somehow had legitimacy, when in reality the USSR had been the author and backer for most of the world's terrorist movements for decades. It's always fun to ignore the fact that Nelson Mandela had the same Soviet backing that his fellow Nobel recipient Yasser Arafat did...
Seriously? Bwahahaha!Still wrong, aren't you. Society shapes gov't,
They shape each other perhaps, if I'm being generous. Gov't holds the whip hand (until or unless the populace eventually bites it off). There's a whole argument waiting in the wings on this issue, trust me, but I am not starting that tonight
Instill? How can you instill weakness and controversy in a system whose defining characteristics include those two very things?so if you can instill controversy and self-doubt in a democratic system, it can cause it to be far weaker and ready for conquest from a totalitarian or at least unified one.
Proven? I am forever amused by the evidence you offer as proofSorry, proven false, and years ago at that. I had trouble finding a single link among all the examples. However, they <do> provide a perfect example of how that USSR funding bore fruit; quite a lot of bang for very little, er, Ruble.
AI is left wing because people who think AI is left wing say AI is left wing. Ah-huh.
You don't hear much about AI's attempts to intercede in human rights issues in China, etc because it is not in the West's interests to have a population (or portion thereof) all fired up about injustices carried out by a foreign power about whom the West can do nothing. That would be bad for business, amongst other things
You do however get to hear all about AI accusing the US because, "Isn't Democracy grand, it even allows loony fringe groups to make tits of themselves with crazy unfounded accusations!". No sweat.
I'm not sure we are having the same conversation as each other right here.Your attempts to toy with me aside, the history is all but undeniable. The Germanic "Barbarians" desired incorporation and assimilation, while the Islamists desired extermination.
I was pretty sure that Byzantine culture preceded Islam and is only relevant as being the culture that Islam emerged from. In a similar way to that in which we view pre-1917 and post-revolution Russia - i.e. not the same thing.Agreed about the cross purposes, and that there was no "Golden Age", but I'm not sure we're on terms about the rest. The Byzantine culture is stupidly forgotten about, perhaps because it also is an unpleasant reminder of the hostility of Islam.
Busy socialite, answering inappropriate emails and such no doubt.Hardly; just haven't enough time.
Interesting commentary aside ... but no, you'd have to be simple-minded to believe that Kuwait was ever going to be left to rot.Definitely not the case. In point of fact, it was only with about a week to go that suddenly there was a strange awareness that we were going to do something that previously would have been considered on the level of supernatural. I suspect it was because of the Battle of Khafji - which modern media hindsight claims generally claims a strategic miscalculation by Iraq. In reality, it was intended to be a major Iraqi offensive resulting in strategic positioning, but since the Iraqi army was solidly based on the USSR's doctrine, it exposed just how worthless those post-WW2 tactical considerations could be on the modern battlefield. When you get your arse kicked by retreating Marine LAV's and the Saudi National Guard, it kind of reduces the "battle hardened veterans" storyline.
True.It doesn't matter how battle-hardened you are when you haven't eaten in close to a week and have no idea what's happening...
I still think you are missing my point on this. I like the jingoism thoughRe-read. I'm saying that the "J00z are the root of all Ebil" song & dance was at best a sideshow prior to the "Naqbah". Once a rag-tag Israeli army defeated the best that the Arab world had to offer, though...
As ever, well-trained/motivated/well-armed beats hysterical/hate-filled/rage-boy nearly every day of the week.
You misspelled drunk as a lord, I think :razzle:If THAT's the case, then you best do me homage, and fast. I <am> the "marrow-eminent" one, after all (though perhaps it's easier for you to just use "High Lord")...
Ooh, self-referential argument alert! I love these! *excited clapping*So having your hands on other's rightful stuff is prejudice? Do tell.
I see you have spared us the trouble of defining rightful ownership here. Good, saves time and effort.
It's entirely possible that no amount of intervention can fix the broken that the US economy actually is. But thanks for not challenging my assertion that intervention was necessary.Why? There's a large segment, myself included, that don't believe he's done any good with the multiple interventions, and that Paulson snookered Bush in the first place.
These days, I am starting to lean towards "What's Mine Is Mine, Now Pass Me The Ammunition So I Can Hold Onto It All". This is possibly because no one can, will or is able to, help me with my particular issues so why should I give a **** about theirs?Oh, well, I'm glad that we will soon number in such august ranks as those you inhabit. Tell me, which d'y'think is kinder and gentler - your "Care Pathways" or our "Lives System"? Rather Orwellian when labeled as "Death Panels", to be sure...
Damn, my lefty is washing off.
There are two schools of thought when looking at UK and US society, although the ratio of adherents differs in each case. There are those who say, We are all in this together and those who think, We are all in this for ourselves. Do I really have to pick a side, can't I just alternate according to mood?