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    Re: rune history question

    My advice is to never use runes of Pul and higher for silly things like runewords. Safe and cube them up into Zod runes for the Zod God grail.

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    Re: rune history question

    Quote Originally Posted by nulio View Post
    First, your statement makes no sense at all. Extra skill, life and mana for every non-barb character he ever makes in his life... is not needed unless the player doesn't avoid hits?

    Why does he wants resists from the HotO for then? It's only needed if he doesn't avoid elemental attacks...

    You made me remember when kids want to win an argument and use every thing that come to their minds.



    HotO gives 3 skills 40fcr 10dex 15% mana 30-40@

    Spirit + CtA buffs give 3 skills 25-35fcr 55fhr 112mana 22vitality and 38+% mana and life


    So basically less 5fcr and 40@. Fhr is taken care of and lots of more mana and life. Cyclone armor potentially helps taking care of res problems.
    Both are great and if player plans to make non caster PvM chars, second is way better.
    Only bad part is that this particular char has to wait for a CtA that might not arrive.


    SO the question is, what are arrethyn future D2 plans and not who wins.

    Anyway, it looks like (s)he already made up his/her mind and I think that it's the safe bet.

    I remember when I started and runes were hard to come by.
    My statement does make sense. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
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    Having been in a similar situation recently, although I got lucky with the Ohm drop without having to cube, I'd side with the CtA camp. It just makes a bigger, harder to replicate difference compared to HotO, which can be covered by spirit readily enough. Neither choice is going to break the game for you without the other though, so I wouldn't grudge making HotO now because the runes are available

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    Re: rune history question

    Wow I seem to have spawned quite an argument, first things first a minor correction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post
    I found it best to shoot for the 105% fcr BP and stack skills as much as you can. tornado needs the skills and FCR to be any good at killing in act 5 hell so lvl 30+ is ideal.
    According to the wiki 105% bp is for sorcs, druids have a bp at 99%. Also to confirm I only have spirit in a sword at the moment, I have not found a monarch to put it in a shield as of yet. Also a bit of background on where I'm currently at:
    level: 84
    Life: ~2100 (w/ oak sage)
    mana: 417
    Currently have 99% bp for fcr and fhr, +3 all skills +2 elemental skills and +3 tornado.

    I think I'd go for a cta before hoto but I'm not all that inclined to make either, at least not immediately. The main reason I'm not particularly interested in cta despite it's undeniable benefits is that it's one more thing to juggle while I'm playing. I got bored of my previous melee characters because there wasn't enough to manage, but I'm comfortable right now with the amount of stuff to pay attention to on my windy and adding cta skills to refresh on a relatively short duration isn't something I'm particularly interested in right now.

    On a seperate note I think I really should take helvete's suggestion and make a caster belt, my current one has little more than +52 life. even a minimum 5 fcr would let me use my gaean amulet which would probably be worth the loss of life. I'd heard of the caster belt recipe but I haven't really looked much into crafting as I wanted to focus on beating hell baal before worrying about other stuff. Same reason I haven't done any gambling either.

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    Re: rune history question

    Caster belts have to be really top end to not be outdone by Arach, but when arach is unavailable due to not being found (this case) or its level requirement, caster belts rock! Some of them can be great with a level req as low as late 20s.

    CTA for Oak Sage users is a lot more about mana and that +1 skill than about life, as BO and Oak simply add together, they don't multiply each other. However, Oak Sages die with little warning, whereas BO timer is something one gets used to. However, the horror of rolling +1 BO would have scared me away from that option if I didn't have a lot of +all skills.

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    Re: rune history question

    BO and Oak Sage may 'just' add together, but its still mighty impressive when they do! Last weekend I did some MP Baal runs with Zemaj's Windy...between beta CtA and Oak, my guy had a 6k lifebulb!

    I was also very impressed with how well we could take down Baal...we were doing /p8 for the minion waves and one time forgot to turn it down before entering the WS chamber...even at /p8, Baal went down in less than 30 seconds!! Of course, it really helps that Baal really hates the grizzlybear, and kept manaburning him instead of me, so I didn't have to worry about running out of mana for Vengeance

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    Re: rune history question

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyG View Post
    My advice is to never use runes of Pul and higher for silly things like runewords. Safe and cube them up into Zod runes for the Zod God grail.
    First of all this.

    Quote Originally Posted by arrethyn View Post
    I had a vex rune drop a few days ago as I was making my way through the catacombs to hell andariel on my windy druid which I was very excited about, however I didn't take a screenshot or anything. I was just rereading the trade rules and I noticed that it says vex and up require a history and Lo and up require a screenshot. What does this history entail and how do I make one for my vex rune?
    And to answer the original question: it means what it says tell about how you found it (which you just did). The trade forum is based solely on the trust between members, and often people will trust you more if you give more information. However, if you are a new member, do not be suprised if people don't wanna trade HRs and other high-end stuff with you right away - they mean no offence, they are just careful. Also some people prefer to see screenies of lower runes than the rules say, if they are going to trade.

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