Pharphis's 75K /p3 AT run thread - Help needed!

**pharphis** · 11-04-2013, 18:19

Originally Posted by nulio

I'll leave the other 50k runs for someone else ^^

Waiit, you are only doing the 75k runs because someone already did them?

I said MAYBE! In other words no

What did you run council with?

i'm only still on AT because I'm missing Tyrael's and I have a stupid thread about 75k :/

**nulio** · 11-04-2013, 21:43

WWer and Zealot.

You can edit thread title to 15k!

**Fabian** · 12-04-2013, 02:04

I took my Pitbarb, switched out the 6Ist off-hand Phase Blade and replaced it with an Azurewrath, and changed nothing else. As it turns out, this is a very good AT runner, who could be optimized further I'm sure. 1pt Concentrate handles the MI dudes reasonably well, if a little slowly, and Azurewrath ensures they die even if they're PI/MI.

I don't know if there's a reason to choose a Berserker hybrid over a Concentrator if making a dedicated AT Barb, but it's something to consider maybe. The other monster types sure do die fast. Of course, HC is scary so I dunno if I'd recommend it really. Certainly not the way I build my characters heh. Either way, it sounds like it's kinda far down the list, so no need to worry about it yet.

ps Frost Nova <3

**Grape** · 12-04-2013, 09:14

Originally Posted by Fabian

I took my Pitbarb, switched out the 6Ist off-hand Phase Blade and replaced it with an Azurewrath, and changed nothing else. As it turns out, this is a very good AT runner, who could be optimized further I'm sure. 1pt Concentrate handles the MI dudes reasonably well, if a little slowly, and Azurewrath ensures they die even if they're PI/MI.

I don't know if there's a reason to choose a Berserker hybrid over a Concentrator if making a dedicated AT Barb, but it's something to consider maybe. The other monster types sure do die fast. Of course, HC is scary so I dunno if I'd recommend it really. Certainly not the way I build my characters heh. Either way, it sounds like it's kinda far down the list, so no need to worry about it yet.

ps Frost Nova <3

Do you believe that further optimized build with an excellent map could get anywhere near to your Pitbarb in terms of efficiency? At least AT runs could be done faster but maybe Pit is still superior because of more bosspacks etc...

**Fabian** · 12-04-2013, 10:44

Grape,

I think the Pit is better than AT for "perfect" Barbs. A bit of that has to do with kill speed (I may be mistaken here, but I think the Concentrate or the Berserk/Concentrate hybrids will 1-hit kill bosses a smaller percentage of the time), a bit has to do with safety (AT seems to be a slightly more dangerous place leading to more Rejuvs being drunk/picked up), a bit has to do with lower MF (Azurewrath over 6Ist PB type consideration) and a bit has to do with boss pack density (a larger map with the same relative boss pack density means more time spent teleporting from boss to boss and less time S&E/opening new game/running in the Rogue Encampment/teleing from waypoint to dungeon entrance). I wouldn't expect the difference to be super huge, but this is what my thoughts are based on limited AT testing.

Mostly though it's just that I think the Magic Immunes will just take longer if you're a hybrid, and otherwise Berserk is just a better skill than Concentrate.

**Grape** · 12-04-2013, 11:21

Ok, thanks for your thoughts. I'll definitely have to fire up a barb at some point (hopefully not distant) in the future to do pits/tunnels myself, too. I believe I've most of the equipment needed for a moderate runner.

Doing AT with a blizzer is so easy and quite relaxing. Let's hope it's the same with barb in pits/at, I'm sure it will take some time to get used to it though. From my somewhat small experience in running those two areas I just for some reason like AT (as an area) more. I don't know why is that

**pharphis** · 12-04-2013, 14:02

Several people have said it's very attention intensive, so likely not the most relaxing choice

However I want to try it too at some point. Thanks for your thoughts, fabian

**NagisaFurukawa** · 12-04-2013, 15:26

Berserker is probably more relaxing of the two, to be honest. There's so much more room for error with Howl, higher HP, and generally unthreatening enemies. Blizzard sorceress is a bit easier on the fingers though. It just depends if you want to run at breakneck pace.