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**Asmodeous** · 23-08-2012, 12:46

Originally Posted by NFann

That is complete bull****. PoE has no where near the same mechanics as D3, so how can it have "the same major design flaws" - are you referring to the combat animations? Alright that might pretty much be the only one thing D3 is superior in. Go back to wow, kid.

He's probably referring to the Online play only major design flaw of D3. PoE has the same issues with latency and rubber banding as D3 for players who don't live next door to the game's servers. If you live in another country besides the america's, europe or asia, that's a bit of a design flaw.

**raveharu** · 23-08-2012, 12:49

Originally Posted by kavlor

Hardly.POE has lots of customising.

Customization that looks and play bad, it's one of the worst atrociously badly made d2 clone wannabe that I've tried so far, wished I could take back that hour or so I've wasted. I'm absolutely astounded that people can actually spend hours looking and playing at that piece of crap, I'll rather choose d2 over that anyday. Bad story, bad graphics, terrible anti-d3 elitist community, made by a terrible anti-d3 company.

Back to topic, more AH whines, as usual.

AH is clearly the most efficient way of trading in D3, since the game actually has a gold economy.

One of the things I really hated in D2 was to spend hours refreshing game names, as well as joining trade games (always with minimal results besides being bombarded by "wug"). AH eliminates all that crap and makes trading more efficent and straight to the point. It's time to live out of that historic d2 bubble.

**Steven Hazani** · 23-08-2012, 13:46

Originally Posted by Asmodeous

He's probably referring to the Online play only major design flaw of D3. PoE has the same issues with latency and rubber banding as D3 for players who don't live next door to the game's servers. If you live in another country besides the america's, europe or asia, that's a bit of a design flaw.

That's another one. Massive desync can cause the same sorts of problems huge hit boxes cause in D3 = unresponsive gameplay.

Oh and even at its worst there was no point in time where D3 was disconnecting me nearly as often as PoE.

Originally Posted by kavlor

Hardly.POE has lots of customising.

It has about as much as D2.

Meaning people think there's a lot, but because there's clear and obvious ways of doing things... not so much.

This would change if more stats were useful (evasion, I'm looking at you).

**Porkchopsamwich** · 23-08-2012, 13:51

Yo I hear the new Call of Duty is gonna have loot drops and MEGA customization. Like, you can put different camouflage on your hat and shoes this time. And you can pick if you want your guy to be a white guy or a black girl. Crazy right?

**Dacar92** · 23-08-2012, 13:56

Originally Posted by Porkchopsamwich

Yo I hear the new Call of Duty is gonna have loot drops and MEGA customization. Like, you can put different camouflage on your hat and shoes this time. And you can pick if you want your guy to be a white guy or a black girl. Crazy right?

My 13 year old son is excited.

**Porkchopsamwich** · 23-08-2012, 13:57

Originally Posted by Dacar92

My 13 year old son is excited.

Do you think he'll pick to play as a white guy or a black girl?

**darkrealm** · 23-08-2012, 15:11

LOL this convo has me wondering what my son will pick.

**acken** · 23-08-2012, 16:25

Originally Posted by DiabloBaal

So let me get this straight.... Itemization is Diablo 3 is still messed up even after the much anticipated (not to mention Hyped) patch? Honest question. Haven't played D3 in a while now. Was busy with job and Darksiders 2

Whats the overall approval rate of the patch since I am only coming across rants everywhere :/

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, But I'm going to do it anyway:

What If blizz don't WANT to fix the itemization, I mean come on, D3 released with crappy item system, the "value" of good items is high. They give a one month window to players to collect good items before they start the RMAH, ....... BAM.... things selling for around 250$ for the first couple of weeks, Bli$$ take their 15% cut, mega moola . Then it all stales again.
They now hit a major patch with the SAME 'slightly' buffed up itemization and add the "Paragon system" to give people an incentive to play the game for another 3-4 months, and the RMAH is flowing with the 15% cut again.

As far as I'm concerned, all these changes should have been in the game on release. :-/
You know I always wondered why Blizz don't listen to fan feedback.
Look at how open mindedly Runic took lessons home from the Torchlight 2 beta.

Yeah well public relations (feedback etc) have been horrible on this game that isn't news for anybody.

As for 1.0.4... this is a step in the right direction but for me it feels like emergency aid.
The poor state the game was in for 3months had enough time to really bore me and disregard the game. The damage is heavy and already done. Now I got 1.0.4 so that it doesn't die immediately but the damage are still there and painful.

For the people that were still interested in D3 however, they are probably happy.

So here it is... this is a good patch but I noticed I'm really not interested anymore by what this dev team produces.

**a black kid** · 23-08-2012, 16:46

Originally Posted by acken

As for 1.0.4... this is a step in the right direction but for me it feels like emergency aid.
The poor state the game was in for 3months had enough time to really bore me and disregard the game. The damage is heavy and already done. Now I got 1.0.4 so that it doesn't die immediately but the damage are still there and painful...

...So here it is... this is a good patch but I noticed I'm really not interested anymore by what this dev team produces.

that is kind of how i feel... this patch, even though i love everything they've done with it, is just not enough. its only a band-aid for the real itemization/item hunt problems. and the fact that i played so many hours hoping it would get better, yea, damage was done.

i played with some friends the first night of the patch, and it was fun talking about changes... but every time i play alone it feels like a total chore - though that could partially be because ive gained about 5 paragon levels farming with over 200% magic find, and the ONLY thing of worth i could find was a chest piece that sold for 50,000 gold. grinding gold = not a fun time.

**Darksilanus** · 23-08-2012, 19:07

Ok, since the main concept of this thread is rate of good item drops and GAH/RMAH effect on the slot machine feel of Diablo....I'm proposing a simple fix.

When you create a character, along with being softcore/harcore...you designate them as "self found" or able to use the AH. Anything found on a self found character can be used by that character or transferred to any self found alts on the account, not to AH chars. Blizz creates another set of drop tables based on self found character with increased drop rates on legendaries, etc (similar drop rates as in D2, perhaps)...

Yes, this further fragments the Diablo community, but it seems to be the simplest (conceptually) way for fixing the issue. No clue how easy or difficult on the programming/server space side, but considering they have already instituted it with hardcore/softcore, maybe it's doable again?